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Think about how much water there would be if it was 50% water.laurentian said:
Cheers! This is going to be a long argument down the pub!Munsford0 said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato_paradoxlaurentian said:
Right, can someone show me the "workings out" on this? Driving me mad!orraloon said:
That's a mathematical potato. In the real world, potatoes are ~80% water.rick_chasey said:Also learned this conundrum:
You have 100kg of potatoes, which are 99% water by weight. You let them dehydrate until they're 98% water. How much do they weigh now?"
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Yes - that's a good way of looking at it.kingstongraham said:
Think about how much water there would be if it was 50% water.laurentian said:
Cheers! This is going to be a long argument down the pub!Munsford0 said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato_paradoxlaurentian said:
Right, can someone show me the "workings out" on this? Driving me mad!orraloon said:
That's a mathematical potato. In the real world, potatoes are ~80% water.rick_chasey said:Also learned this conundrum:
You have 100kg of potatoes, which are 99% water by weight. You let them dehydrate until they're 98% water. How much do they weigh now?"
Answer:50kgWilier Izoard XP0 -
Not sure why the teaching bit is seen as so awful. I can see that having to double as a part time social worker might feel like something that wasn't 'as advertised' and without any formal recognition (except when it goes wrong). Being able to hold the attention and respect of 30 children is something that must be difficult to learn if it doesn't come naturally.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Don’t disagree. But that just highlights the massive issue with London. It doesn’t make you instantly well off elsewhere though.surrey_commuter said:
In my version of the sticks a four bedroom house costs £250kmorstar said:
Meh, you shouldn’t be struggling but you’re not going to be loaded.surrey_commuter said:
If your partner earned a similar amount and you were out in the sticks you would be living the life of Riley.First.Aspect said:
But wasn't RC wrong by about £8k plus pension?Pross said:
Rick was saying £40k for his friend (I assume that’s a very small primary) which isn’t twice the average. It isn’t far above the average and would be about what a mid grade person with 5-10 years experience would expect in my sector. It does beg the question why anyone would accept the job at that level of pay though, I’m pretty sure my sister was on mid £30k as a primary classroom teacher before she went part time.First.Aspect said:
We are talking minimum for primary school here, right? Twice the average salary doesn't seem too bad.Pross said:Pretty sure head teacher was one of the many jobs John80 could do better than those who actually do it so on that basis it should pay less than being an engineer.
You couldn’t pay me enough to be a teacher let alone a head teacher. It was bad enough dealing with other people’s kids for an hour a week when I used to do a bit of coaching. I’d be sacked or jailed if I had to put up with them on a daily basis.
What's minimum for secondary school? That's where it really becomes a punishing role.
Managing a small rural primary school probably is a fairly demanding job but pretty good gig overall I'd have thought. Preferable to burning out trying to run an inner London secondary, for maybe 50% more take home pay.
Consider student loan for one or both on salary over 25? 27? K.
Saving for a deposit, paying rent, high utilities. Have to run a car as no practical public transport.
Bear in mind that house prices will be high from all the second homes or covid London escapees.
The few places where housing is genuinely cheap are pretty hideous.
The guy in London on the same salary is paying off student loans
the guy in London has to save for a bigger deposit whilst paying higher rent
But not one to argue over, 2x40K, you shouldn’t be struggling. It’s just that even if you adjust the salaries down for inflation, the difference between that now and 10 or 20 years ago is massive.0 -
For my son the teaching bit is what he's naturally good at. As a Head of Department what's wearing him down is the unpaid hours in the evenings / weekends doing admin, marking, work preparation etcrjsterry said:Not sure why the teaching bit is seen as so awful. I can see that having to double as a part time social worker might feel like something that wasn't 'as advertised' and without any formal recognition (except when it goes wrong). Being able to hold the attention and respect of 30 children is something that must be difficult to learn if it doesn't come naturally.
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But two people earning £47k are taking home £72k and they get to keep their child benefit.morstar said:
Don’t disagree. But that just highlights the massive issue with London. It doesn’t make you instantly well off elsewhere though.surrey_commuter said:
In my version of the sticks a four bedroom house costs £250kmorstar said:
Meh, you shouldn’t be struggling but you’re not going to be loaded.surrey_commuter said:
If your partner earned a similar amount and you were out in the sticks you would be living the life of Riley.First.Aspect said:
But wasn't RC wrong by about £8k plus pension?Pross said:
Rick was saying £40k for his friend (I assume that’s a very small primary) which isn’t twice the average. It isn’t far above the average and would be about what a mid grade person with 5-10 years experience would expect in my sector. It does beg the question why anyone would accept the job at that level of pay though, I’m pretty sure my sister was on mid £30k as a primary classroom teacher before she went part time.First.Aspect said:
We are talking minimum for primary school here, right? Twice the average salary doesn't seem too bad.Pross said:Pretty sure head teacher was one of the many jobs John80 could do better than those who actually do it so on that basis it should pay less than being an engineer.
You couldn’t pay me enough to be a teacher let alone a head teacher. It was bad enough dealing with other people’s kids for an hour a week when I used to do a bit of coaching. I’d be sacked or jailed if I had to put up with them on a daily basis.
What's minimum for secondary school? That's where it really becomes a punishing role.
Managing a small rural primary school probably is a fairly demanding job but pretty good gig overall I'd have thought. Preferable to burning out trying to run an inner London secondary, for maybe 50% more take home pay.
Consider student loan for one or both on salary over 25? 27? K.
Saving for a deposit, paying rent, high utilities. Have to run a car as no practical public transport.
Bear in mind that house prices will be high from all the second homes or covid London escapees.
The few places where housing is genuinely cheap are pretty hideous.
The guy in London on the same salary is paying off student loans
the guy in London has to save for a bigger deposit whilst paying higher rent
But not one to argue over, 2x40K, you shouldn’t be struggling. It’s just that even if you adjust the salaries down for inflation, the difference between that now and 10 or 20 years ago is massive.
To take that home on a single income you would need to earn £115k and if they have two kids to compensate for CB they would need £120k.
Neither will be struggling but the couple in the sticks will be a lot better off because the mortgage costs will be a lot less.0 -
For me it is part the experience of trying to explain fairly basic things to my younger daughter (who struggles with traditional teaching techniques) and even with my older daughter who was quite bright academically but even then I would struggle to explain something beyond 'it just is' at times. I know the whole point of teacher training is to deal with that side of things but multiplying it by 30 kids would fill me with dread. Then the other part is my experience of coaching where all it takes is one person to disrupt the whole group and you basically can't do anything to stop them dragging the whole thing down. Chuck in all the other shite that parents should be doing that people keep saying should be part of the curriculum and it would finish me. Like nursing or social care it is a vocation more than a job.rjsterry said:Not sure why the teaching bit is seen as so awful. I can see that having to double as a part time social worker might feel like something that wasn't 'as advertised' and without any formal recognition (except when it goes wrong). Being able to hold the attention and respect of 30 children is something that must be difficult to learn if it doesn't come naturally.
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Bottom line is that if there's a high turnover and shortages, the money's not enough: if people aren't attracted/retained despite the length of school holidays and the pension, it tells you all you need to know about the renumeration versus the workload and stress involved.1
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Possibly needs to be fact checked but apparently...... Germany have only won one World Cup finals match since winning the final in 2014.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
It seems true. But, while bad, it's been 5 games really, separated by many years. Germany did reach the Semis at the Euro 2016 and beat Portugal at Euro 2020.pblakeney said:Possibly needs to be fact checked but apparently...... Germany have only won one World Cup finals match since winning the final in 2014.
Regardless, it really did seem that German team had the chance to mark an era. Possibly puts into context how hard it is to win international tournaments.0 -
Potential to be knocked out in the group stages twice on the trot. Seems unreal to those of us old enough to remember them as a dominate team.drhaggis said:
It seems true. But, while bad, it's been 5 games really, separated by many years. Germany did reach the Semis at the Euro 2016 and beat Portugal at Euro 2020.pblakeney said:Possibly needs to be fact checked but apparently...... Germany have only won one World Cup finals match since winning the final in 2014.
...The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Japan losing vs costs rica was a godsend. They’ll likely get through nowpblakeney said:
Potential to be knocked out in the group stages twice on the trot. Seems unreal to those of us old enough to remember them as a dominate team.drhaggis said:
It seems true. But, while bad, it's been 5 games really, separated by many years. Germany did reach the Semis at the Euro 2016 and beat Portugal at Euro 2020.pblakeney said:Possibly needs to be fact checked but apparently...... Germany have only won one World Cup finals match since winning the final in 2014.
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Possibly one for the intrigue thread by why isn’t this the correct spelling?briantrumpet said:Bottom line is that if there's a high turnover and shortages, the money's not enough: if people aren't attracted/retained despite the length of school holidays and the pension, it tells you all you need to know about the renumeration versus the workload and stress involved.
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surrey_commuter said:
Possibly one for the intrigue thread by why isn’t this the correct spelling?briantrumpet said:Bottom line is that if there's a high turnover and shortages, the money's not enough: if people aren't attracted/retained despite the length of school holidays and the pension, it tells you all you need to know about the renumeration versus the workload and stress involved.
Dang, you got me on that one... cos it's to do with money, not nomey.0 -
Munerate is the Latin for to give or bestow so not anything to do with numbers.surrey_commuter said:
Possibly one for the intrigue thread by why isn’t this the correct spelling?briantrumpet said:Bottom line is that if there's a high turnover and shortages, the money's not enough: if people aren't attracted/retained despite the length of school holidays and the pension, it tells you all you need to know about the renumeration versus the workload and stress involved.
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Going back to the Unification church - remoonerisation.
I'll get my coat.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
Sorry, it was my little joke and I am too old for emojisPross said:
Munerate is the Latin for to give or bestow so not anything to do with numbers.surrey_commuter said:
Possibly one for the intrigue thread by why isn’t this the correct spelling?briantrumpet said:Bottom line is that if there's a high turnover and shortages, the money's not enough: if people aren't attracted/retained despite the length of school holidays and the pension, it tells you all you need to know about the renumeration versus the workload and stress involved.
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Ah, over my head sorry. I suspect it's one I've spelled incorrectly in the past though as renumeration seems far more logical.0
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Glad it’s not just me on the whole renum vs remun thing.
I only realised renum was incorrect about a year ago when I kept seeing the ‘wrong’ spelling in places and looked it up.
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You were saying? 🤣🤣🤣rick_chasey said:
Japan losing vs costs rica was a godsend. They’ll likely get through nowpblakeney said:
Potential to be knocked out in the group stages twice on the trot. Seems unreal to those of us old enough to remember them as a dominate team.drhaggis said:
It seems true. But, while bad, it's been 5 games really, separated by many years. Germany did reach the Semis at the Euro 2016 and beat Portugal at Euro 2020.pblakeney said:Possibly needs to be fact checked but apparently...... Germany have only won one World Cup finals match since winning the final in 2014.
...The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
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That Operation Market Garden was actually two sections (Operation Market being the airborne element and Garden being the ground based part).0
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In six years of cycling hundreds of miles per week just on my own I went on my first ever group ride with a bunch of friends (15 participants) on the Cheshire countryside roads. A very slow pace as the majority aren't regular cyclist and all in older age. Quite a few women. Confident and skilful cyclists, just not able to ride fast. All just wanting to be outdoor for some gentle exercise during the festive period.
Jesus H Christ, I have never known how much hate from drivers these type of rides get. So much aggression. If they could have got away with it they would have mowed us all down.1 -
My wife has never heard of Eddy Merckx“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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The Telegraph website has a "Culture Wars" section.0
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Is it boomers vs millennials?kingstongraham said:The Telegraph website has a "Culture Wars" section.
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https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/ipsos-issues-index-june-2022kingstongraham said:The Telegraph website has a "Culture Wars" section.
Alas they’re not gonna increase regular readership.0 -
I'm not sure there's a lot of millennials read the Telegraph. It's a safe space for opinions you cant say any more.First.Aspect said:
Is it boomers vs millennials?kingstongraham said:The Telegraph website has a "Culture Wars" section.
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So it is boomers vs millennials, with the readership being boomers and no right of reply for millennials.kingstongraham said:
I'm not sure there's a lot of millennials read the Telegraph. It's a safe space for opinions you cant say any more.First.Aspect said:
Is it boomers vs millennials?kingstongraham said:The Telegraph website has a "Culture Wars" section.
One trivial thing that intrigues me is how newspapers still exist.0 -
Boomers. Since they stopped Page 3 in The Sun I doubt I’ve seen anyone under the age of 50 by a newspaper.First.Aspect said:
So it is boomers vs millennials, with the readership being boomers and no right of reply for millennials.kingstongraham said:
I'm not sure there's a lot of millennials read the Telegraph. It's a safe space for opinions you cant say any more.First.Aspect said:
Is it boomers vs millennials?kingstongraham said:The Telegraph website has a "Culture Wars" section.
One trivial thing that intrigues me is how newspapers still exist.0