Things you have recently learnt

rjsterry

Pross said:

briantrumpet said:

I didn't know until now that there was a 'Bristol bus boycott' in 1963: at the time the bus company refused to employ black or Asian bus crews.

I happened to see it in a remarkably uncritical report in the Telegraph of a stained glass window in St Mary Redcliffe that celebrated Colston being replaced with designs featuring refugees and black people, as well as Jesus.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/23/church-replaces-edward-colston-stained-glass-window-jesus-migrant/

I think I saw an article about it on something like The One Show recently. It was the first time I’d heard about it. It might have been something like the death of the first Black bus driver they recruited but I could be mixing up a few 1960s Civil Rights stories.

It would have been that as he did die relatively recently. Thought this was more widely known.

briantrumpet

rjsterry said:

Pross said:

briantrumpet said:

I didn't know until now that there was a 'Bristol bus boycott' in 1963: at the time the bus company refused to employ black or Asian bus crews.

I happened to see it in a remarkably uncritical report in the Telegraph of a stained glass window in St Mary Redcliffe that celebrated Colston being replaced with designs featuring refugees and black people, as well as Jesus.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/23/church-replaces-edward-colston-stained-glass-window-jesus-migrant/

I think I saw an article about it on something like The One Show recently. It was the first time I’d heard about it. It might have been something like the death of the first Black bus driver they recruited but I could be mixing up a few 1960s Civil Rights stories.

It would have been that as he did die relatively recently. Thought this was more widely known.

Certainly not by me, and I was at school in Bristol from 1969-81. But they were the days when Colston was still a hero, Cabot's reputation was unquestioned (at least in general opinion), Wills Tobacco was still a major industry, and Bristol was generally proud of its history. I don't remember any of the uncomfortable aspects of its past being mentioned in school at all... maybe one of the 'advantages' of O Level being confined to (mostly) the two World Wars.

surrey_commuter

briantrumpet said:

Reading the Wikepedia article on it, it does make you realise how far we've come since (even if there's still some way to go):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Bus_Boycott

The Bristol Evening Post and the Western Daily Press ran series on the colour bar, which was blamed by company management on the Transport and General Workers' Union (TGWU), which represented bus workers. Local union officials denied that there was any colour bar but in 1955 the Passenger Group of the TGWU had passed a resolution that "coloured" workers should not be employed as bus crews. Andrew Hake, curator of the Bristol Industrial Mission, recalled that "The TGWU in the city had said that if one black man steps on the platform as a conductor, every wheel will stop".

Some white conductresses expressed concern for their safety if they were crewed with black men. Other bus workers' concerns, apart from racism, was that a new competitive source of labour could reduce their earnings. Pay was low and workers relied on overtime to get a good wage. One shop steward said, "people were fearful of an influx of people from elsewhere (on the grounds it) would be reducing their earnings potential".

Not sure if you are being ironic but I read the last sentence and thought how little had changed

briantrumpet

surrey_commuter said:

briantrumpet said:

Reading the Wikepedia article on it, it does make you realise how far we've come since (even if there's still some way to go):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Bus_Boycott

The Bristol Evening Post and the Western Daily Press ran series on the colour bar, which was blamed by company management on the Transport and General Workers' Union (TGWU), which represented bus workers. Local union officials denied that there was any colour bar but in 1955 the Passenger Group of the TGWU had passed a resolution that "coloured" workers should not be employed as bus crews. Andrew Hake, curator of the Bristol Industrial Mission, recalled that "The TGWU in the city had said that if one black man steps on the platform as a conductor, every wheel will stop".

Some white conductresses expressed concern for their safety if they were crewed with black men. Other bus workers' concerns, apart from racism, was that a new competitive source of labour could reduce their earnings. Pay was low and workers relied on overtime to get a good wage. One shop steward said, "people were fearful of an influx of people from elsewhere (on the grounds it) would be reducing their earnings potential".

Not sure if you are being ironic but I read the last sentence and thought how little had changed

It's not black people so much now. Just all furriners.

diplodicus

pblakeney said:

In Apple Music Alabama 3 are listed as Country music. 🤣

"sweet pretty country acidhouse music" surely?

kingstongraham

Old Purple Tin is country, surely.

pblakeney

diplodicus said:

pblakeney said:

In Apple Music Alabama 3 are listed as Country music. 🤣

"sweet pretty country acidhouse music" surely?

That line pretty much nails it but there's going to be some disappointed country fans getting A3 in their playlist. 🤣

...as for when they find out that they are from Brixton, well, even Sopranos fans will be disappointed...

pblakeney

kingstongraham said:

Old Purple Tin is country, surely.

Fair, but not 100% representative.

rick_chasey

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/how-americans-spend-their-money-2022/

This is a great visualisation of spending trends by age in the US.

pinno

rick_chasey said:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/how-americans-spend-their-money-2022/

This is a great visualisation of spending trends by age in the US.

I think you would find that same pattern in many western cultures.
Generation z for example haven't been out of education long and therefore, don't have the spending power.
Generation x are at the point many will have paid off mortgages and have disposable income.

Why it is 'great' and why you call it a 'visualisation' is beyond me.
[Terminology cr4p 'cos it sounds cool or hip like 'Facilities service management' (fcuking cleaners and janitors)]

Health care and insurance - not relevant to us but you could mirror it and say that our 'generation millennial and z' aren't saving enough for retirement.

rjsterry

The 'many coloured' bit in the story of Joseph (the Lloyd Webber one) is a mistranslation and probably should be 'long sleeved'.

Pross

That wouldn’t have worked very well with the song!

mrb123

The word callipygian

briantrumpet

mrb123 said:

The word callipygian

Venus Callipige (Venus of the beautiful buttocks) - it's art, obvs.

rjsterry

Pross said:

That wouldn’t have worked very well with the song!

Complete rewrites needed.

rjsterry

briantrumpet said:

mrb123 said:

The word callipygian

Venus Callipige (Venus of the beautiful buttocks) - it's art, obvs.

Butt of course it is.

Looks like someone's had to mend her ankle.

First.Aspect

rjsterry said:

briantrumpet said:

mrb123 said:

The word callipygian

Venus Callipige (Venus of the beautiful buttocks) - it's art, obvs.

Butt of course it is.

Looks like someone's had to mend her ankle.

Its a tattoo.

briantrumpet

First.Aspect said:

rjsterry said:

briantrumpet said:

mrb123 said:

The word callipygian

Venus Callipige (Venus of the beautiful buttocks) - it's art, obvs.

Butt of course it is.

Looks like someone's had to mend her ankle.

Its a tattoo.

All I can see is a crack.

Munsford0

briantrumpet said:

First.Aspect said:

rjsterry said:

briantrumpet said:

mrb123 said:

The word callipygian

Venus Callipige (Venus of the beautiful buttocks) - it's art, obvs.

Butt of course it is.

Looks like someone's had to mend her ankle.

Its a tattoo.

All I can see is a crack.

I can see three cracks

Pross

That Wuthering Heights was the only book Emily Brontë wrote. I always assumed she was quite prolific (and never know which sister wrote which book). Dying at 30 probably didn’t help.

sungod

they knew all along...
https://youtu.be/wbg24_dMtQs

rick_chasey

Making ravioli is harder than it looks and it’s fine for the TV people as they never have to clear it up **liberally throws flour all over the kitchen like it doesn’t matter**

capt_slog

Petrol 'goes off'.

I've been messing about with a small 2-stroke engine generator over the last week or so. The fuel in the tank look horrible. It was a dirty brown colour and I put this down to the rust in the tank. It's been in there for a few years.

I drained the tank and washed it out with clean fuel. The old fuel and washings I put in a container to settle out, thinking I could later filter it for reuse. I managed to spill a little fuel on the yard where I was working, and after I'd cleared everything out of the way and made safe, I added a little more old fuel to the spill and tried to light it.

I was careful how I did this, because i expected it to go 'with a whoosh', but no. It didn't want to light.

Thinking about it, it's quite logical and obvious. The lighter fragments of the petrol have gone leaving something which is still very flammable, but not at all like the original.

A quick google confirms this, and I find the shelf life is quoted in weeks! I suspect this is exaggerating the true situation, but goes some way to explain why my chainsaw ect never want to start.

orraloon

^ Indeed. I'll always make sure kit has run out of fuel before stopping using for an extended period, e.g mower over winter. Carburettor empty so no gunging. Don't think fuel life is weeks, e.g. 2-stroke fuel with the added oil seems to last for a long time.

capt_slog

orraloon said:

^ Indeed. I'll always make sure kit has run out of fuel before stopping using for an extended period, e.g mower over winter. Carburettor empty so no gunging. Don't think fuel life is weeks, e.g. 2-stroke fuel with the added oil seems to last for a long time.

I should have done the same. The reason being that although the plastic/rubber parts inside carburettors and the connecting pipes are petrol resistant, they do eventually 'dissolve' if left in contact for long enough.

The shelf life thing...
https://www.bp.com/content/dam/bp/country-sites/en_au/australia/home/products-services/fuels/opal-factsheet-storagehandling.pdf

but there are lots of other references which say similar...

The Hyundai Power products website...(https://hyundaipowerequipment.co.uk/news/how-to-deal-with-stale-fuel-in-your-lawn-mower)

Old petrol in your mower can go bad in as little as 2-4 weeks, so it’s important to only put as much fuel in your mower as you need, and to drain it before putting it into storage over the winter months.


As you say, it seems to last for a long time, well longer than that.

pinno

Amazing how the addition of 2 stroke oil makes fuel far less
volatile.
I accidentally left the lid off my 2 stroke shaker cannister and remembered some 10 days later only to find that there was hardly any evaporation.

Ben6899

Petrol readily evaporates from older (read: carburettor) ICE systems as well - they're just not as efficient as the newer injected lumps.

carbonclem

Lots of chat amongst the classic car community regarding fuel life as standard unleaded fuel (E10) has much shorter life than premium (E5). The ethanol content absorbs water more quickly and thus degenerates faster. Advice is to use a stabiliser for storage, use premium fuel or drain the system.
I reckon you've got four or five months without any drama tbh.

Ben6899

carbonclem said:

Lots of chat amongst the classic car community regarding fuel life as standard unleaded fuel (E10) has much shorter life than premium (E5). The ethanol content absorbs water more quickly and thus degenerates faster. Advice is to use a stabiliser for storage, use premium fuel or drain the system.
I reckon you've got four or five months without any drama tbh.

You want to be using an additive anyway, running unleaded in a "classic" engine, assuming it was designed to run on 4-Star.

I don't remember if those additives (designed to "soften" the fuel and protect valve seats) also stabilise fuel? @veronese68 or @pinno will know - I'm long out of the classic car game.

carbonclem

Ben6899 said:

carbonclem said:

Lots of chat amongst the classic car community regarding fuel life as standard unleaded fuel (E10) has much shorter life than premium (E5). The ethanol content absorbs water more quickly and thus degenerates faster. Advice is to use a stabiliser for storage, use premium fuel or drain the system.
I reckon you've got four or five months without any drama tbh.

You want to be using an additive anyway, running unleaded in a "classic" engine, assuming it was designed to run on 4-Star.

I don't remember if those additives (designed to "soften" the fuel and protect valve seats) also stabilise fuel? @veronese68 or @pinno will know - I'm long out of the classic car game.

My interest is solely in aircooled VW, so they have hardened valve seats and are good to go on, well, any old fuel tbh!