Boris as PM

It looks likely he’ll be PM next week
His first test?
The Iranians and the missing oil tankers
I mean , what could go wrong?
That’s not even thinking of the high quality and grounded individuals he’ll pick to make up his cabinet who’ll be his political lackeys rather than individuals based on merit.
His first test?
The Iranians and the missing oil tankers
I mean , what could go wrong?
That’s not even thinking of the high quality and grounded individuals he’ll pick to make up his cabinet who’ll be his political lackeys rather than individuals based on merit.
“Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring”
Desmond Tutu
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The EU will be the good guys and we will ally ourselves with an increasingly far-right US regime. Russia is the elephant in the room. Boris will be the court jester to King Donald.
We were doomed anyway. This has just accelerated it.
i'm starting to think about packing my bags already.
#disasterwaitingtohappen
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
Surely there one or two options on here already for this topic?
https://forum.bikeradar.com/viewtopic.php?t=13100964&start=580
or
https://forum.bikeradar.com/viewtopic.php?t=12780147&start=20
she is/was useless as well. Johnson is even more useless, if thats possible.
#frombadtoworse
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
More opportunities for people to bloviate in the echo chamber.
And your problem is?
Corbyn is no better but he's not entering the most powerful office in the land next week with some profound and pressing issues to deal effectively with. He doesn't do detail, he flops to public opinion and lies to suit his own agenda.
It not politics Stevo, its a genuine concern we are all on train Boris, barrelling to a head on collision and the driver hasn't a clue how to control the situation or use the tools at his disposal.
FFS his own campaign team kept him from public scrutiny during the leadership campaign for fear of him dropping himself in it.
Desmond Tutu
Nothing. A quick "Now stop being naughty piccaninnies" will sort it.
+1 yet again
Does that mean we have your permission?
Officially speaking?
or if 52% of posters say so it is closed
It seems that the UK action was taken in response to Intel from the USA and was in line with the EU stance. Unfortunately the US and EU have not acknowledged their role and no EU endorsement has been received.
The tanker seized by Iran is British because of its port of registry nothing else about it is British. Nevertheless we sent a gunboat in its defence and it was too far away.
We will have new pm in a few days and if it's Boris Johnson his record as foreign secretary suggests he will be all at sea even if the tankers are not.
Flag off convenience puts British ranking at just outside 10th place I believe. When you include British interests in vessels flagged elsewhere British shipping interests goes even higher.
Northern Marine Management is a subsidiary of the Swedish company Stena so not a British outfit. It might employ Scots but then the crew of the ship were a mixed lot. I doubt the Scottish link was part of the Iranian motivation, they just saw the Port of Registry and Red Duster.
Anyway, must go and fill the cars up. Fuel's a bargain right now.
Surely if they had checked they would have realised p1ssing off the Iranians would leave us very vulnerable
We need to project strength as a nation and need political leadership to lead, but I fear Boris has neither the intellect, gravitas or character to anything other than follow the US lead
Desmond Tutu
britain is dramatically lacking the political, industrial, military, cultural and intellectual power to project any strength anywhere.
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
We don't want to fight but by Jingo if we do,
We've too few ships, we've very few men, we've run out of money too,
We've fought Iraq before, and while we're Britons true,
We wish we bloody hadn't as we hadn't thought it through.
We did well in the Cricket!
Maybe it is time to realise that we are dealing with the ultimate facts don't matter state. Radcliffe is a spy and apparently this tanker ran over a fishing boat in international waters and did not stop to assist. It is all lies from a nation that are the masters in lying. I wonder where our great Euro allies are? Oh sorry they have given a glib statement of support for us being the only country to actually enforce sanctions and international law. I wonder why Iran has not provided a credible end location for the millions of barrels of oil within the bowels of the tanker arrested in Gibraltar.
The realists on this thread are pointing out that a lot of our assets have to steam past Iran and we have two men and a dog to protect them.
Many of our European allies are landlocked and many of the others do not live in a fantasy land when they are still in their glory days.
Well - quite, and we're British - so we will (quite rightly) do things by rule of Law - and not result to piracy.
It may be "nice" to "flex our muscles" in a US type way - but we're a bit more circumspect than that - taking ships on a censored -for-tat measure would quickly escalate - and quite likely lose the support of our European neighbours.
Personally, I'd be upping the warship presence in the area and probably start co-ordinating convoys of UK flagged vessels with warship/aircraft guards and blasting anything Iranian out of the water ... ok not the last bit, but it would be satisfying* to do so...
*totally ignoring that the Iranian guards have family too and are probably just working to the commands of their leaders, just as ours do.
Do we have any support of our European neighbours given they seem happy to let Iran do whatever they want? Spain could have for example dealt with this issue but chose not to. Damned if you do and damned if you don't it would appear.