TDF 2019, Stage 13: Pau > Pau 19/07/2019 - 27,2 km ITT *Spoilers*

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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    that was awesome.... thomas summed it up. "if he keeps riding like that he will win."
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • N0bodyOfTheGoat
    N0bodyOfTheGoat Posts: 6,066
    edited July 2019
    With the exception of that flat section towards the end before the final ramp, everything about that course made me think of the few stages I've watched Alaphillipe do spectacular breakaways on standard, non-TT stages.

    On the flat section, which I think included the third split, G was ~2secs quicker than A.

    I'd be surprised if Alaphillipe was drugged up the eyeballs with anything other than adrenaline from the yellow jersey and the French supporters on the roadside.
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  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    Definitely not a normal day at the office;
    21st; Dowsett, 22nd Bernal
    26th Aru, 27th Kung
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    inseine wrote:
    Definitely not a normal day at the office;
    21st; Dowsett, 22nd Bernal
    26th Aru, 27th Kung

    bernal is feeling the race. .. dowsett never does well deep into a gt. aru..back from health issues

    kung yeah bad at the office but he has being doing a hell of a lot of work the last 10 days.
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    RichN95 wrote:
    john1967 wrote:
    Rank outsider takes apart world's best time trialists and looked fresh as daisy at the end. WoW ???
    Worlds best time trialists?

    The World's best Time triallists

    Dumoulin: Bad knee
    Froome: Broken leg
    Roglic: Absent
    Campanaerts: Absent
    Dennis: Tantrum
    Van Aert: Hospital
    Martin: 163rd (& 3rd best Martin)
    Kwiatkowski: 135th
    Castroviejo: 156th

    etc....

    Enric Mas was 9th FFS

    I take back my statement about 1970's Eddy Merckx.
  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    What odds would you have got on Alaphillipe winning the tour before it began?
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    inseine wrote:
    Definitely not a normal day at the office;
    21st; Dowsett, 22nd Bernal
    26th Aru, 27th Kung

    bernal is feeling the race. .. dowsett never does well deep into a gt. aru..back from health issues

    kung yeah bad at the office but he has being doing a hell of a lot of work the last 10 days.
    Yo be fair, it’s very easy to make that sort of assessment after the stage.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    Gweeds wrote:
    What odds would you have got on Alaphillipe winning the tour before it began?

    10-20 to 1

    you would have thought there were twenty guys more likely to finish higher on GC.
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    inseine wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    Definitely not a normal day at the office;
    21st; Dowsett, 22nd Bernal
    26th Aru, 27th Kung

    bernal is feeling the race. .. dowsett never does well deep into a gt. aru..back from health issues

    kung yeah bad at the office but he has being doing a hell of a lot of work the last 10 days.
    Yo be fair, it’s very easy to make that sort of assessment after the stage.

    i agree but it kinda makes sense. doesn't it.
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    oh yeah TDG is god

    Proved my point....
  • Alan Ha Ha
    Alan Ha Ha Posts: 88
    Gweeds wrote:
    I'm REALLY glad I'll be photographing a wedding all day tomorrow and missing the stage.

    REALLY glad.

    My wife convinced me to go on holiday at the start of the school break instead of at the end because we've been unlucky with weather in the last few years. I hadn't checked the calendar properly, let alone realised how back-loaded the tour would be, before agreeing. I'll be missing all this and trying to update the Lanterne Rouge by phone from a campsite in the middle of nowhere. This will be particularly fraught as I've demanded she delete all social media apps from her phone for the duration so that she actually talks to the rest of us and suspect I may be hoist by my own petard.

    Oh, and as for the weather - I'm loading the car in the pissing rain and have just come inside to change my soaked t-shirt. Again.

    Snap. Wonder if we are going to the same Argyll campsite?
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    oh yeah TDG is god

    Proved my point....

    deep breathes ... believe and you will be at peace .....at peace I say
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Whilst I'm surprised at the result it's not outlandish:
    Short, punchy TT more suited to Alaphilippe than he could ever have hoped;
    The form rider this year, in yellow, at home;
    Thomas still a little undercooked.

    Without Alaphilippe we'd all be raising eyebrows at TDG, but his ride shows that this TT wasn't for the specialists.

    I just wonder if we'll see the roadside fans throwing p1ss at him for making the leap from rouleur to contender.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    NOS reports that Wout van Aert has a deep cut through his flesh & muscle. Has just been operated on. https://twitter.com/nossport/status/1152278676387614721
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Pross wrote:
    FocusZing wrote:
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    One of Ullrich's old jerseys?

    Has Valverde ever worn yellow?
    Correlation is not causation.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Pross wrote:
    FocusZing wrote:
    5d3216280ee694507a8b4de9-tour-de-francia-video-resumen-etapa-13.jpg

    One of Ullrich's old jerseys?

    Has Valverde ever worn yellow?

    Yes.

    2008 won the opening stage.

    Uphill sprint. Won it on a red and yellow bike. Was very striking.
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
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  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    Christ! He looks heavy there.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    FocusZing wrote:
    Christ! He looks heavy there.

    Yeah so heavy he was wearing an anti-matter jersey to compensate.
  • Alan Ha Ha
    Alan Ha Ha Posts: 88
    FocusZing wrote:
    Christ! He looks heavy there.

    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
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  • john1967
    john1967 Posts: 366
    i am not buying into the drug cheat stuff at all. just not feeling it.

    Then can someone please explain how a rider goes from finishing 58 in 2018 stage 20 itt to winning the next.Ladt year he was 3 m 30 secs down on G. Just asking.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    john1967 wrote:
    i am not buying into the drug cheat stuff at all. just not feeling it.

    Then can someone please explain how a rider goes from finishing 58 in 2018 stage 20 itt to winning the next.Ladt year he was 3 m 30 secs down on G. Just asking.

    What was he riding for last year?

    Of the 10 times he’s ridden a TT against Thomas, he’s beaten him four times.

    He soloed for 20km in an earlier stage and held the peloton off. It’s the same talent.
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    Alan Ha Ha wrote:

    Snap. Wonder if we are going to the same Argyll campsite?

    Dorset. It's apparently like Devon but cheaper. Having fun on holiday apparently isn't a criteria we apply.
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    john1967 wrote:
    i am not buying into the drug cheat stuff at all. just not feeling it.

    Then can someone please explain how a rider goes from finishing 58 in 2018 stage 20 itt to winning the next.Ladt year he was 3 m 30 secs down on G. Just asking.

    obviously the same pane e agua training plan as Froome & Wiggins.

    #Just saying.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    john1967 wrote:
    i am not buying into the drug cheat stuff at all. just not feeling it.

    Then can someone please explain how a rider goes from finishing 58 in 2018 stage 20 itt to winning the next.Ladt year he was 3 m 30 secs down on G. Just asking.

    What was he riding for last year?

    Of the 10 times he’s ridden a TT against Thomas, he’s beaten him four times.

    He soloed for 20km in an earlier stage and held the peloton off. It’s the same talent.

    You're wasting your time. Some people are incapable of understanding context (they seem incapable of understanding that this wasn't his first TT win and that it wasn't a typical TT course as well).
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    john1967 wrote:
    i am not buying into the drug cheat stuff at all. just not feeling it.

    Then can someone please explain how a rider goes from finishing 58 in 2018 stage 20 itt to winning the next.Ladt year he was 3 m 30 secs down on G. Just asking.
    Because he had nothing to ride for in 2018. He was 33rd on GC.

    Just look at today and ask why top class TT riders such as Tony Martin, Kwiatkowski and Castroviejo were in the bottom 30.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Pross wrote:
    You're wasting your time. Some people are incapable of understanding context (they seem incapable of understanding that this wasn't his first TT win and that it wasn't a typical TT course as well).
    Over at the Asylum there was a person who had put an enormous amount of time into analysing Froome's (who else) TT results from 2008 to whenever and concluded that he was much better from mid 2011 onwards.

    I pointed out the obvious, but he was absolutely adamant that every rider goes full gas in every TT. I thin he didn;'t really believe this but was desperately trying to convince himself that he hadn't wasted a lot of his time.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
    RichN95 wrote:
    john1967 wrote:
    i am not buying into the drug cheat stuff at all. just not feeling it.

    Then can someone please explain how a rider goes from finishing 58 in 2018 stage 20 itt to winning the next.Ladt year he was 3 m 30 secs down on G. Just asking.
    Because he had nothing to ride for in 2018. He was 33rd on GC.

    Just look at today and ask why top class TT riders such as Tony Martin, Kwiatkowski and Castroviejo were in the bottom 30.
    Clearly every rider who finished above those three had a massive Pot Belge before the stage started.