TDF 2019, Stage 13: Pau > Pau 19/07/2019 - 27,2 km ITT *Spoilers*
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Gweeds wrote:I'm REALLY glad I'll be photographing a wedding all day tomorrow and missing the stage.
REALLY glad.
My wife convinced me to go on holiday at the start of the school break instead of at the end because we've been unlucky with weather in the last few years. I hadn't checked the calendar properly, let alone realised how back-loaded the tour would be, before agreeing. I'll be missing all this and trying to update the Lanterne Rouge by phone from a campsite in the middle of nowhere. This will be particularly fraught as I've demanded she delete all social media apps from her phone for the duration so that she actually talks to the rest of us and suspect I may be hoist by my own petard.
Oh, and as for the weather - I'm loading the car in the pissing rain and have just come inside to change my soaked t-shirt. Again.0 -
hypster wrote:Just watched the recorded ITV4 coverage. That is just not legally possible from Alaphilippe. I don't care what anybody says that's a Floyd Landis ride if ever I saw one.
I'm sure his adrenaline level will have been sky high during that ride due to wearing a yellow jersey, being French, and having the whole of France screaming encouragement. His adrenaline rush completely natural, unlike Floyd's0 -
hypster wrote:Just watched the recorded ITV4 coverage. That is just not legally possible from Alaphilippe. I don't care what anybody says that's a Floyd Landis ride if ever I saw one.
Does it not occur to these people that we've never seen Ala in the form of his life, trying this hard, in a TT where the parcours suits him before?0 -
I guess the plan tomorrow won't be for G to go for broke but for him and his team to slowly but surely turn the screw until Alaphilippe pops. I don't see him having the team to fully provide support day after day so he'll get isolated at some point against a team that will have 3 or 4 of G's lieutenants still there.0
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Kingstonian wrote:I guess the plan tomorrow won't be for G to go for broke but for him and his team to slowly but surely turn the screw until Alaphilippe pops. I don't see him having the team to fully provide support day after day so he'll get isolated at some point against a team that will have 3 or 4 of G's lieutenants still there.
And if he just sits on G's wheel?“You may think that; I couldn’t possibly comment!”
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underlayunderlay wrote:Gweeds wrote:I'm REALLY glad I'll be photographing a wedding all day tomorrow and missing the stage.
REALLY glad.
My wife convinced me to go on holiday at the start of the school break instead of at the end because we've been unlucky with weather in the last few years. I hadn't checked the calendar properly, let alone realised how back-loaded the tour would be, before agreeing. I'll be missing all this and trying to update the Lanterne Rouge by phone from a campsite in the middle of nowhere. This will be particularly fraught as I've demanded she delete all social media apps from her phone for the duration so that she actually talks to the rest of us and suspect I may be hoist by my own petard.
Oh, and as for the weather - I'm loading the car in the pissing rain and have just come inside to change my soaked t-shirt. Again.
Solidarity brother!
I've also got weddings on both of the main mountain stages next Fri/Sat.
Petard hoisting notwithstanding, I hope the weather improves for you.Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0 -
xdoc wrote:Thomas being interviewed a few minutes after finishing, still breathing hard and looking like he'd put in a big effort, Allaphillip crosses the like, skids to a halt, hops off his bike and looks as fresh as a daisy. :?
Did I hear Millar say he gained 8 sec on the final ramp? Certainly flew up it.
The skid is likely being interpreted as forgetting to switch off the motor.0 -
Dabber wrote:Kingstonian wrote:I guess the plan tomorrow won't be for G to go for broke but for him and his team to slowly but surely turn the screw until Alaphilippe pops. I don't see him having the team to fully provide support day after day so he'll get isolated at some point against a team that will have 3 or 4 of G's lieutenants still there.
And if he just sits on G's wheel?
Then you adapt your tactics. The race isn't over after tomorrow0 -
yourpaceormine wrote:hypster wrote:Just watched the recorded ITV4 coverage. That is just not legally possible from Alaphilippe. I don't care what anybody says that's a Floyd Landis ride if ever I saw one.
I'm sure his adrenaline level will have been sky high during that ride due to wearing a yellow jersey, being French, and having the whole of France screaming encouragement. His adrenaline rush completely natural, unlike Floyd's
Oooh so that's all you need to out of nowhere spank everyone in a tour de France time trial, a bit of adrenaline?
That ride was ridiculous. Then to confound it he was fresh as a daisy and bouncing off the walls after it.
I hope he gets spat out on the solour tomorrow to get this farce over with ASAP. I suspect he'll hang off the back though, then ride back on solo and leave the rest for dead in the last km of the tourmalet"Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago0 -
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Ultimately Ineos I think need to do what they have found to work in previous years against non-diesel climbers. Chill until the base of the final climb, do as little as possible and then drop the hammer from the base of the Tourmalet. And then see what's what after that - as G said though, if he can keep this up then he'll win0
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Kingstonian wrote:I guess the plan tomorrow won't be for G to go for broke but for him and his team to slowly but surely turn the screw until Alaphilippe pops. I don't see him having the team to fully provide support day after day so he'll get isolated at some point against a team that will have 3 or 4 of G's lieutenants still there.
DQS have got their proper GC contender not too far behind Thomas so Alaphillipe could be a useful distraction if he can stay in contact. That said, riding well on some punchy, medium mountains is a long way from riding a touch under the red zone for probably 40-50 minutes.0 -
gsk82 wrote:yourpaceormine wrote:hypster wrote:Just watched the recorded ITV4 coverage. That is just not legally possible from Alaphilippe. I don't care what anybody says that's a Floyd Landis ride if ever I saw one.
I'm sure his adrenaline level will have been sky high during that ride due to wearing a yellow jersey, being French, and having the whole of France screaming encouragement. His adrenaline rush completely natural, unlike Floyd's
Oooh so that's all you need to out of nowhere spank everyone in a tour de France time trial, a bit of adrenaline?
That ride was ridiculous. Then to confound it he was fresh as a daisy and bouncing off the walls after it.
I hope he gets spat out on the solour tomorrow to get this farce over with ASAP. I suspect he'll hang off the back though, then ride back on solo and leave the rest for dead in the last km of the tourmalet
I think what we really need is someone to throw a bucket of piss over Alaphilippe because a cup just isn't enough to justify this nonsense.0 -
Pross wrote:Kingstonian wrote:I guess the plan tomorrow won't be for G to go for broke but for him and his team to slowly but surely turn the screw until Alaphilippe pops. I don't see him having the team to fully provide support day after day so he'll get isolated at some point against a team that will have 3 or 4 of G's lieutenants still there.
DQS have got their proper GC contender not too far behind Thomas so Alaphillipe could be a useful distraction if he can stay in contact. That said, riding well on some punchy, medium mountains is a long way from riding a touch under the red zone for probably 40-50 minutes.
Day after day. And then staying at the front. It's not like you can relax once you've taken the polka dots and go backwards on a jour sans.0 -
Alaphilippe is now 2nd favourite.
I don't really understand a lot of the comments about him today. Why would someone with a palmares like his struggle on today's course when properly motivated? Plus isn't it more far fetched to transform from a track pursuiter to a tour winner?0 -
I just hope that if he blows up, he does so spectacularly.
Otherwise, I fear what we have seen with Froome in the past, roadside, will seem like a peace rally...."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Blazing Saddles wrote:I just that if he blows up, he does so spectacularly.
Otherwise, I fear what we have seen with Froome in the past, roadside, will seem like a peace rally....
Why? It was the French who don't like Froome. They are as partisan as you can get!0 -
Shirley Basso wrote:Blazing Saddles wrote:I just that if he blows up, he does so spectacularly.
Otherwise, I fear what we have seen with Froome in the past, roadside, will seem like a peace rally....
Why? It was the French who don't like Froome. They are as partisan as you can get!
Err, yes and Alaphillipe isn't Chinese."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
FocusZing wrote:
Wow.0 -
Tour of Colombia this year. Alaphilippe was in great from. He'd won stage 5 (had 2nd & 3rd on other stages). He'd previously won the TT at San Luis and been second on GC.
He was leader going into the final stage which finished on a 1000m elevation.....
....He lost two minutes.
Ineos won't be messing about tomorrow. Kwiatokowski & Castroviejo were 135th and 156th todayTwitter: @RichN950 -
RichN95 wrote:Tour of Colombia this year. Alaphilippe was in great from. He'd won stage 5 (had 2nd & 3rd on other stages). He'd previously won the TT at San Luis and been second on GC.
He was leader going into the final stage which finished on a 1000m elevation.....
....He lost two minutes.
Ineos won't be messing about tomorrow. Kwiatokowski & Castroviejo were 135th and 156th today
Good point Rich.0 -
Was Thomas' ride actually just a bit below par, and that's what is making Ala's ride look super normal?
Gs gaps to the other GC riders are surely below expectation. I think an on form Dumoulin or Froome would have smashed it.0 -
FleshTuxedo wrote:Was Thomas' ride actually just a bit below par, and that's what is making Ala's ride look super normal?
Gs gaps to the other GC riders are surely below expectation. I think an on form Dumoulin or Froome would have smashed it.
When the first riders came in they all commented how the climbs were more than they thought. I guess a course like that should suit Alaphilippe more than Thomas.0 -
In his interview after the stage Thomas said he didn't have that last 5% when he stepped on the pedals so you might have a point. Should also be pointed out that in TT head to heads Thomas only leads 6-4.FleshTuxedo wrote:Was Thomas' ride actually just a bit below par, and that's what is making Ala's ride look super normal?
Gs gaps to the other GC riders are surely below expectation. I think an on form Dumoulin or Froome would have smashed it.0 -
If carlsberg did ped.0
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RichN95 wrote:Tour of Colombia this year. Alaphilippe was in great from. He'd won stage 5 (had 2nd & 3rd on other stages). He'd previously won the TT at San Luis and been second on GC.
He was leader going into the final stage which finished on a 1000m elevation.....
....He lost two minutes.
Ineos won't be messing about tomorrow. Kwiatokowski & Castroviejo were 135th and 156th today
I almost picked Kwia for PTP based on the lumpy course but then my head told me he'd probably have to hold back.0 -
FleshTuxedo wrote:Was Thomas' ride actually just a bit below par, and that's what is making Ala's ride look super normal?
Gs gaps to the other GC riders are surely below expectation. I think an on form Dumoulin or Froome would have smashed it.
Yeah, Thomas would have only beaten the rest of the field by 15 seconds, then Alaphilippe steps up with a ride that Dumoulin would have been proud of. Stinks to high heaven.
I've got to say I was really impressed with the way Alaphilippe animated the TdF in the earlier stages. Now I think he's just a cheat.0
