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  • ballysmateballysmate Posts: 14,393
    pblakeney said:

    webboo said:

    I suspect that they couldn’t prove he intended to kill her. So therefore it becomes manslaughter.

    "He said when Mrs Parry refused to leave his car he tried to pull her out before he "bundled" into the vehicle in an attempt to push her.
    The defendant said his arm "must have slipped up in all the melee" and that he left the car without realising Mrs Parry was "poorly".
    Mrs Parry, from Bournemouth, died in hospital the following day from a brain injury caused by compression of the neck."

    Didn't realise that she was poorly? I don't believe his testimony but can't prove otherwise. You are more charitable than I am, and legally correct. Intent is hard to prove.
    2 elements to a criminal offence - Actus reus (the act itself) and the Men's rea (guilty state of mind).
    Both have to be demonstrated to prove an offence complete.
  • bompingtonbompington Posts: 7,363

    and the Men's rea (guilty state of mind).
    Both have to be demonstrated to prove an offence complete.

    This is, of course, an entirely different thing to the Women's rea ;)
  • ballysmateballysmate Posts: 14,393

    and the Men's rea (guilty state of mind).
    Both have to be demonstrated to prove an offence complete.

    This is, of course, an entirely different thing to the Women's rea ;)
    Nobody knows the state of a woman's mind.
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 13,102
    Pross said:

    Well if the judge has doubts they can still hand out a life sentence even for manslaughter.

    That would restore a little faith in the system.
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 50,631 Lives Here
    edited 28 October
    Brits who salivate over its colonial past seem to show little interest in the Greece Turkey Cyprus beef in the med.

    Seems this is the first med beef in 300 years where the Brits are not playing a pivotal role...
  • JezyboyJezyboy Posts: 204

    Brits who salivate over its colonial past seem to show little interest in the Greece Turkey Cyprus beef in the med.

    Seems this is the first med beef in 300 years where the Brits are not playing a pivotal role...

    Meh. I imagine Scottish football fans don't take much interest in most world cups for much the same reason.

    I would think most interest in empire is about a lingering sense of jingoism, rather than trying to work out what went well or badly.
  • webboowebboo Posts: 2,857

    Brits who salivate over its colonial past seem to show little interest in the Greece Turkey Cyprus beef in the med.

    Seems this is the first med beef in 300 years where the Brits are not playing a pivotal role...

    Would that be the same Cyprus that my son in law a British soldier spent six months patrolling on the border last year.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 50,631 Lives Here
    webboo said:

    Brits who salivate over its colonial past seem to show little interest in the Greece Turkey Cyprus beef in the med.

    Seems this is the first med beef in 300 years where the Brits are not playing a pivotal role...

    Would that be the same Cyprus that my son in law a British soldier spent six months patrolling on the border last year.
    Yup.

    Maybe I’m reading the tea leaves wrong but it’s Macron and the French who are weighing in, not the Brits
  • ballysmateballysmate Posts: 14,393
    I would have assumed you would think it a good thing that Britain isn't getting all colonial again.
    Besides, does Cyprus not belong to a new empire? Surely they can sort it out. ;)
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 50,631 Lives Here

    I would have assumed you would think it a good thing that Britain isn't getting all colonial again.
    Besides, does Cyprus not belong to a new empire? Surely they can sort it out. ;)

    Sure. I wasn’t commenting if it was good or bad.

    It is notable.
  • morstarmorstar Posts: 3,397

    I would have assumed you would think it a good thing that Britain isn't getting all colonial again.
    Besides, does Cyprus not belong to a new empire? Surely they can sort it out. ;)

    Was about to say the same.

    Definitely a case of damned if you do, damned if you don’t on this one.

    Rick, politically, I am more closely aligned to you than the many Conservative voices on here but the everything about Britain is wrong rhetoric is bloody annoying.

    You’re a whingeing non-Pom to paraphrase the Australians for this type of behaviour.
  • Stevo_666Stevo_666 Posts: 42,196
    morstar said:

    I would have assumed you would think it a good thing that Britain isn't getting all colonial again.
    Besides, does Cyprus not belong to a new empire? Surely they can sort it out. ;)

    Was about to say the same.

    Definitely a case of damned if you do, damned if you don’t on this one.

    Rick, politically, I am more closely aligned to you than the many Conservative voices on here but the everything about Britain is wrong rhetoric is bloody annoying.

    You’re a whingeing non-Pom to paraphrase the Australians for this type of behaviour.
    You're not the only one who thinks that.

    Sadly this sort attitude is quite widespread amongst people who live in the UK and I find it quite intriguing (to keep this on topic).
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  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 10,920

    Brits who salivate over its colonial past seem to show little interest in the Greece Turkey Cyprus beef in the med.

    Seems this is the first med beef in 300 years where the Brits are not playing a pivotal role...

    The one where the UK is the guarantor to the peace treaty?
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 50,631 Lives Here

    Brits who salivate over its colonial past seem to show little interest in the Greece Turkey Cyprus beef in the med.

    Seems this is the first med beef in 300 years where the Brits are not playing a pivotal role...

    The one where the UK is the guarantor to the peace treaty?
    Maybe I am the only one who
    sees Macron taking a lead on this and not the UK.

  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 50,631 Lives Here
    morstar said:

    I would have assumed you would think it a good thing that Britain isn't getting all colonial again.
    Besides, does Cyprus not belong to a new empire? Surely they can sort it out. ;)

    Was about to say the same.

    Definitely a case of damned if you do, damned if you don’t on this one.

    Rick, politically, I am more closely aligned to you than the many Conservative voices on here but the everything about Britain is wrong rhetoric is bloody annoying.

    You’re a whingeing non-Pom to paraphrase the Australians for this type of behaviour.
    It was more something of note rather than anything else.

    I don’t think I was criticising it or otherwise.

    Seems a bit of a symbolic shift of where the UK projects its power.

    In the context of the shift in emphasis from the MoD, away from expensive conventional boats etc I thought it was interesting.

    Not least when a lot of people hark back to a period where the UK did project power further afield
  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 10,920

    Brits who salivate over its colonial past seem to show little interest in the Greece Turkey Cyprus beef in the med.

    Seems this is the first med beef in 300 years where the Brits are not playing a pivotal role...

    The one where the UK is the guarantor to the peace treaty?
    Maybe I am the only one who
    sees Macron taking a lead on this and not the UK.

    Maybe he is, but it's an odd statement about a treaty that the UK guarantees.
  • bompingtonbompington Posts: 7,363

    Brits who salivate over its colonial past seem to show little interest in the Greece Turkey Cyprus beef in the med.

    Seems this is the first med beef in 300 years where the Brits are not playing a pivotal role...

    The one where the UK is the guarantor to the peace treaty?
    Maybe I am the only one who
    sees Macron taking a lead on this and not the UK.

    You've got to be kidding - the whole world sees Macron taking a lead on everything, which he does purely because his MO is to make sure that the whole world sees him taking a lead on everything.

    But in this case the UK knocking is surely justified - the current government has no policies beyond Get Brexit Done, and no competence to do anything anyway.
  • bompingtonbompington Posts: 7,363
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  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 13,102
    To prawda.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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  • webboowebboo Posts: 2,857

    webboo said:

    Brits who salivate over its colonial past seem to show little interest in the Greece Turkey Cyprus beef in the med.

    Seems this is the first med beef in 300 years where the Brits are not playing a pivotal role...

    Would that be the same Cyprus that my son in law a British soldier spent six months patrolling on the border last year.
    Yup.

    Maybe I’m reading the tea leaves wrong but it’s Macron and the French who are weighing in, not the Brits
    I didn’t know Macron was heading up the United Nations these days because that’s who are running the show.
  • pinnopinno Posts: 39,355


    Seems a bit of a symbolic shift of where the UK projects its power.

    What power? We seem impotent at the moment.

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  • rjsterryrjsterry Posts: 18,217
    Is he... trolling his own party?

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  • ProssPross Posts: 24,233
    Why do I run better into a headwind than with a tailwind? Not necessarily faster but relative to other people I make ground into the wind and lose it on the easier, tailwind sections. Maybe a cadence thing. It was never the case when cycling. I also seem to perform better in general relative to those of a similar ability the worse the conditions.
  • pinnopinno Posts: 39,355
    'Cos your well hard?
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  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 13,102
    Skinny aero cyclist instead of fatso trying to lose weight?
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  • ProssPross Posts: 24,233
    Nah, I'm probably bigger than most of those around me, the skinny boys and girls are miles ahead. I think being a bigger runner might be part of it the strange thing is it feels more comfortable to me (other than if I'm on top of a mountain where I hate it).
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 50,631 Lives Here
    Pross said:

    Why do I run better into a headwind than with a tailwind? Not necessarily faster but relative to other people I make ground into the wind and lose it on the easier, tailwind sections. Maybe a cadence thing. It was never the case when cycling. I also seem to perform better in general relative to those of a similar ability the worse the conditions.

    No idea. I remember reading something about turboing being harder on your core / arms as the wind doesn’t help prop up your body.

    Might be relevant, probably not.
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 13,102
    Pross said:

    Nah, I'm probably bigger than most of those around me, the skinny boys and girls are miles ahead. I think being a bigger runner might be part of it the strange thing is it feels more comfortable to me (other than if I'm on top of a mountain where I hate it).

    I wasn't being entirely serious. 😉
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • morstarmorstar Posts: 3,397
    Pross said:

    Nah, I'm probably bigger than most of those around me, the skinny boys and girls are miles ahead. I think being a bigger runner might be part of it the strange thing is it feels more comfortable to me (other than if I'm on top of a mountain where I hate it).

    Wind will have less of an impact you as the bigger athlete.
    The whippets will lose say 20% mass against you but maybe only 10% surface area presented to the wind.
    Uphill, power to weight favours the small. In a headwind, absolute power matters.
    As a bigger athlete (running or cycling) you have more power.
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