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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,791

    Does anyone know if the different hill sizes in ski jumping favour different jumpers?

    It's an interesting question. Ryōyū Kobayashi who just won the normal hill won everything in 2018/9 including the ski flying title. The latter is quite a lot bigger than a normal hill (k-point of 240m or something). That said, I presume there must be some variance in performance, but it is definitely not like Cavandish winning the tour.

    Incidentally, finding info on ski jumping is really hard. It's very popular at the Olympics just not in the English speaking world. I don't watch it any more though. I can still remember when the 200m club was very small.

    Eurosport cover the whole season, and they seem quite clued up.

    I just wonder as there are two competitions in the olympics, normal and the big hills and to my untrained eye it just looks like another opportunity for exactly the same competitors, which would seem to detract from the event.

    I therefore, assume there is enough difference between them. Maybe it is less about landing technique on the big ones and more about the 'flight' bit.

    Yes, I used to watch it on Eurosport, but there is very little coverage outside of that e.g. forums, websites etc.

    As I said, I don't think it makes much difference. Landing is the same. It's on the same bit of the hill (marked as hill size below, but often K-point). More air time and higher speed on the bigger hill, but if Ryōyū Kobayashi can win ski flying and the normal hill, the skills are very similar.


  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,191

    Does anyone know if the different hill sizes in ski jumping favour different jumpers?

    It's an interesting question. Ryōyū Kobayashi who just won the normal hill won everything in 2018/9 including the ski flying title. The latter is quite a lot bigger than a normal hill (k-point of 240m or something). That said, I presume there must be some variance in performance, but it is definitely not like Cavandish winning the tour.

    Incidentally, finding info on ski jumping is really hard. It's very popular at the Olympics just not in the English speaking world. I don't watch it any more though. I can still remember when the 200m club was very small.

    Eurosport cover the whole season, and they seem quite clued up.

    I just wonder as there are two competitions in the olympics, normal and the big hills and to my untrained eye it just looks like another opportunity for exactly the same competitors, which would seem to detract from the event.

    I therefore, assume there is enough difference between them. Maybe it is less about landing technique on the big ones and more about the 'flight' bit.

    Think of it like CX and World Tour.
    Different enough for specialists but the talented can do both.
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,791
    Also, landing only becomes difficult if the jumper goes a long way past the K-point to where it becomes flat. That's when they might use both feet for the landing and lose style points. Here's the world record. No telemark landing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96BkG0TYKrY
  • Ben6899 said:

    Ben6899 said:

    The Imperial War Museum hasn’t had an Afghanistan, Iraq or Syria exhibition yet.

    Probably to do with uncomfortable truths.

    which begs the question of when is a war a war and when is history, history.

    Do we know if they did a Korean War exhibition and when was it and same for the Falklands "Conflict"

    Northern Ireland
    I can’t work out if that is an answer or a question
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,382
    Have stood part way up the Holmenkollen jump in Oslo. Even just beneath the take off point it's a long way down. TV does not do it justice.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,423
    rjsterry said:

    Pross said:

    How my dog is still managing to open the back door when I lock it with the key. For months he has managed to open it when it isn't locked but I've lifted the handle.

    He's started doing it so often I got fed up and locked it properly with the key, the first time he opened it I assumed I hadn't fully turned the key but he just did it again after I'd checked and the handle wasn't moving.

    I'm going to have to take the key out but the way he's going he'll probably put it back in and unlock it.

    Are you sure he's not just climbing out of the window?
    He hasn't learned to shut the door after him yet (the sudden draught and cold air is the give away that he's let himself out) so I'm pretty sure
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,423

    Does anyone know if the different hill sizes in ski jumping favour different jumpers?

    It's an interesting question. Ryōyū Kobayashi who just won the normal hill won everything in 2018/9 including the ski flying title. The latter is quite a lot bigger than a normal hill (k-point of 240m or something). That said, I presume there must be some variance in performance, but it is definitely not like Cavandish winning the tour.

    Incidentally, finding info on ski jumping is really hard. It's very popular at the Olympics just not in the English speaking world. I don't watch it any more though. I can still remember when the 200m club was very small.

    Eurosport cover the whole season, and they seem quite clued up.

    I just wonder as there are two competitions in the olympics, normal and the big hills and to my untrained eye it just looks like another opportunity for exactly the same competitors, which would seem to detract from the event.

    I therefore, assume there is enough difference between them. Maybe it is less about landing technique on the big ones and more about the 'flight' bit.

    The Super G and downhill feels like that for me too, the Super G is just a slightly tighter version of downhill to my untrained eye and teh same skiers seem to excel at both.
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686

    Ben6899 said:

    Ben6899 said:

    The Imperial War Museum hasn’t had an Afghanistan, Iraq or Syria exhibition yet.

    Probably to do with uncomfortable truths.

    which begs the question of when is a war a war and when is history, history.

    Do we know if they did a Korean War exhibition and when was it and same for the Falklands "Conflict"

    Northern Ireland
    I can’t work out if that is an answer or a question

    Just listing conflicts not covered at the IWM.
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  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    Pross said:

    Does anyone know if the different hill sizes in ski jumping favour different jumpers?

    It's an interesting question. Ryōyū Kobayashi who just won the normal hill won everything in 2018/9 including the ski flying title. The latter is quite a lot bigger than a normal hill (k-point of 240m or something). That said, I presume there must be some variance in performance, but it is definitely not like Cavandish winning the tour.

    Incidentally, finding info on ski jumping is really hard. It's very popular at the Olympics just not in the English speaking world. I don't watch it any more though. I can still remember when the 200m club was very small.

    Eurosport cover the whole season, and they seem quite clued up.

    I just wonder as there are two competitions in the olympics, normal and the big hills and to my untrained eye it just looks like another opportunity for exactly the same competitors, which would seem to detract from the event.

    I therefore, assume there is enough difference between them. Maybe it is less about landing technique on the big ones and more about the 'flight' bit.

    The Super G and downhill feels like that for me too, the Super G is just a slightly tighter version of downhill to my untrained eye and teh same skiers seem to excel at both.
    Funny though, as a layman I have the same ‘all the same’ attitude to ski jumping.
    Same skill, bigger jumps.

    But then you throw in skiing and i go, oh no, lots of differences.

    Yes, both speed events but downhill introduces blah, blah, blah whereas SG is this that and the other.

    Yet interestingly, GS is the basis of downhill technique and training.

    But I have skied the Streif in Kitzbuhel and stood at the top of a (very small) ski jump. They’re all nuts.
  • Ben6899 said:

    Ben6899 said:

    Ben6899 said:

    The Imperial War Museum hasn’t had an Afghanistan, Iraq or Syria exhibition yet.

    Probably to do with uncomfortable truths.

    which begs the question of when is a war a war and when is history, history.

    Do we know if they did a Korean War exhibition and when was it and same for the Falklands "Conflict"

    Northern Ireland
    I can’t work out if that is an answer or a question

    Just listing conflicts not covered at the IWM.
    Would they not have to rebrand as the ICM?
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686

    Ben6899 said:

    Ben6899 said:

    Ben6899 said:

    The Imperial War Museum hasn’t had an Afghanistan, Iraq or Syria exhibition yet.

    Probably to do with uncomfortable truths.

    which begs the question of when is a war a war and when is history, history.

    Do we know if they did a Korean War exhibition and when was it and same for the Falklands "Conflict"

    Northern Ireland
    I can’t work out if that is an answer or a question

    Just listing conflicts not covered at the IWM.
    Would they not have to rebrand as the ICM?

    I wonder if there's a Museum of Semantics?
    Ben

    Bikes: Donhou DSS4 Custom | Condor Italia RC | Gios Megalite | Dolan Preffisio | Giant Bowery '76
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  • Tashman
    Tashman Posts: 3,492

    Ben6899 said:

    Ben6899 said:

    Ben6899 said:

    The Imperial War Museum hasn’t had an Afghanistan, Iraq or Syria exhibition yet.

    Probably to do with uncomfortable truths.

    which begs the question of when is a war a war and when is history, history.

    Do we know if they did a Korean War exhibition and when was it and same for the Falklands "Conflict"

    Northern Ireland
    I can’t work out if that is an answer or a question

    Just listing conflicts not covered at the IWM.
    Would they not have to rebrand as the ICM?
    CCM surely, the Empire is long gone
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,423
    What has happened to Elbowloh?
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,016
    My company's mail spam filter filters out some internal emails.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,207
    Toxteth '81.
    Pross said:

    What has happened to Elbowloh?

    Given that his wife was in a serious condition, I would suggest that this is possibly a reason.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,079

    My company's mail spam filter filters out some internal emails.


    Do you have an office in Scunthorpe?
  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,567
    How, despite stiff competition Piers Corbyn manages to be both the worst Piers and the worse Corbyn.

    (with apologies to news thump)
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,382

    My company's mail spam filter filters out some internal emails.

    Does that mean it is working properly? 😏
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,423
    edited February 2022
    Deleted - stupid quote coding getting on my nerves!
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Just on a client call - colleague just said he wants to “double click” on a topic and I might just die of shame
  • Aren't you the head of a new department? Luckily you can use your skillset to find your colleague a new job.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    He is head of his own department haha he can talk as much shite as he wants
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,079
    Pross said:

    Deleted - stupid quote coding getting on my nerves!


    I'm not sure what's suddenly changed about the forum software to produce these weird annoying glitches. Maybe they've taken advantage of Brexit to allow the standards to diverge from EU ones.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,207

    Pross said:

    Deleted - stupid quote coding getting on my nerves!


    I'm not sure what's suddenly changed about the forum software to produce these weird annoying glitches. Maybe they've taken advantage of Brexit to allow the standards to diverge from EU ones.
    The server is probably in China and one of Xi Jinping's boys is regularly piddling on it.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,016
    rjsterry said:

    My company's mail spam filter filters out some internal emails.

    Does that mean it is working properly? 😏
    You aren't the only person to have suggested this.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,079
    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    Deleted - stupid quote coding getting on my nerves!


    I'm not sure what's suddenly changed about the forum software to produce these weird annoying glitches. Maybe they've taken advantage of Brexit to allow the standards to diverge from EU ones.
    The server is probably in China and one of Xi Jinping's boys is regularly piddling on it.

    Or Huawei is intercepting our posts and subtly altering them to send covert messages to communist sleeper cells that were installed in the UK before the forum platform was changed.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,207

    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    Deleted - stupid quote coding getting on my nerves!


    I'm not sure what's suddenly changed about the forum software to produce these weird annoying glitches. Maybe they've taken advantage of Brexit to allow the standards to diverge from EU ones.
    The server is probably in China and one of Xi Jinping's boys is regularly piddling on it.

    Or Huawei is intercepting our posts and subtly altering them to send covert messages to communist sleeper cells that were installed in the UK before the forum platform was changed.
    They don't need sleeper cells as long as we have Spaffer screwing things up at No. 10. The last thing they would want is to have him assassinated accidentally through some covert message.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,079
    pinno said:

    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    Deleted - stupid quote coding getting on my nerves!


    I'm not sure what's suddenly changed about the forum software to produce these weird annoying glitches. Maybe they've taken advantage of Brexit to allow the standards to diverge from EU ones.
    The server is probably in China and one of Xi Jinping's boys is regularly piddling on it.

    Or Huawei is intercepting our posts and subtly altering them to send covert messages to communist sleeper cells that were installed in the UK before the forum platform was changed.
    They don't need sleeper cells as long as we have Spaffer screwing things up at No. 10. The last thing they would want is to have him assassinated accidentally through some covert message.

    Maybe Spaffer has been taking his orders through CS! Don't forget we've got the lurker-liker...
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,207

    pinno said:

    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    Deleted - stupid quote coding getting on my nerves!


    I'm not sure what's suddenly changed about the forum software to produce these weird annoying glitches. Maybe they've taken advantage of Brexit to allow the standards to diverge from EU ones.
    The server is probably in China and one of Xi Jinping's boys is regularly piddling on it.

    Or Huawei is intercepting our posts and subtly altering them to send covert messages to communist sleeper cells that were installed in the UK before the forum platform was changed.
    They don't need sleeper cells as long as we have Spaffer screwing things up at No. 10. The last thing they would want is to have him assassinated accidentally through some covert message.

    Maybe Spaffer has been taking his orders through CS! Don't forget we've got the lurker-liker...
    If that is so, he hasn't stuck to the script.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,079
    pinno said:

    pinno said:

    pinno said:

    Pross said:

    Deleted - stupid quote coding getting on my nerves!


    I'm not sure what's suddenly changed about the forum software to produce these weird annoying glitches. Maybe they've taken advantage of Brexit to allow the standards to diverge from EU ones.
    The server is probably in China and one of Xi Jinping's boys is regularly piddling on it.

    Or Huawei is intercepting our posts and subtly altering them to send covert messages to communist sleeper cells that were installed in the UK before the forum platform was changed.
    They don't need sleeper cells as long as we have Spaffer screwing things up at No. 10. The last thing they would want is to have him assassinated accidentally through some covert message.

    Maybe Spaffer has been taking his orders through CS! Don't forget we've got the lurker-liker...
    If that is so, he hasn't stuck to the script.

    How do you know what the script is? 🤔