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The Monday to Wednesday bit is an attempt at a clever solution though.pblakeney said:
Only Monday to Wednesday too.tailwindhome said:
I think it's a maximum discount of £10 per person.rick_chasey said:
It cuts out for mains over £10 doesn't it?Jeremy.89 said:
It is weird when it's put in to that context.rick_chasey said:To be a bit more on topic, it is quite weird that if you eat out as a family you'll get more government funding towards that meal than a family living in poverty get to help feed their kid for a week.
Waiting to see what resturants actually join in the plan before I make a judgement. If it's just Spoons, Nandos, and the dross chains that are often attached to retail parks, I think I'll pass.
It's a gimmick. Not hugely helpful but won't do any harm.
The VAT decrease is far more help.
And a few other restrictions which further commit it to a gimmick.
Treat all these announcements like the Budget. A few headline grabbers but the devil is in the detail.
With social distancing in place, smoothing attendance over the week is a highly desirable outcome.
Not convinced it will work but worth a try.
I’m gaining a lot of respect for Rishi attempting to think outside the box.
Boris fills his cabinet with sycophants and yes men and yet still accidentally let some talent sneak in.
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Fair points.
BJ doing something by accident doesn’t surprise me. 😉The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
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If that's what it takes to actually have one, it's fine, despite the seeming oxymoron.rick_chasey said:Anyone in favour of Chris Grayling being head of the intelligence committee?
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is the point not that these committees are intended as a check on the Govt and Boris is making them toothlessrick_chasey said:Anyone in favour of Chris Grayling being head of the intelligence committee?
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He's quite likely to release the Russia report by accident?rick_chasey said:Anyone in favour of Chris Grayling being head of the intelligence committee?
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In the event of nuclear devastation, almost certainly somehow caused by Chris Grayling, Chris Grayling would not simply survive, but there would be someone surveying the ash cloud and the onset of nuclear winter going: “You know what, clearing this up looks like a job for Chris Grayling."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/10/chris-grayling-chair-intelligence-committee-0 -
Not even the intelligence committee.rick_chasey said:Anyone in favour of Chris Grayling being head of the intelligence committee?
Apparently Grayling didn't see it coming, which will be a surprise to all.
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Excellent news to see Julian Lewis appointed as chair of the ISC. Commiserations to Chris Grayling 😏1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Opposite reasons to Stevo. The email thing is odd, but each to their own. Presumably we can agree that he will be better at the job than Grayling and is less likely to be pushed around by Johnson and Co.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Julian Lewis has now had the whip removed. More infighting?0
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It's not a Brexit related SC.rick_chasey said:
Mmm not so sure. He’s ERG and Leave Means Leave so all bets are off.rjsterry said:Opposite reasons to Stevo. The email thing is odd, but each to their own. Presumably we can agree that he will be better at the job than Grayling and is less likely to be pushed around by Johnson and Co.
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No I know. It’s more a judge of how thick they are, to be blunt.rjsterry said:
It's not a Brexit related SC.rick_chasey said:
Mmm not so sure. He’s ERG and Leave Means Leave so all bets are off.rjsterry said:Opposite reasons to Stevo. The email thing is odd, but each to their own. Presumably we can agree that he will be better at the job than Grayling and is less likely to be pushed around by Johnson and Co.
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Well I'm sure that will help.webboo said:Julian Lewis has now had the whip removed. More infighting?
They must be bricking it if there's anything to come out, having thought they had stitched it up.0 -
Lol - I usually get told off for that sort of comment but there does seem to be a very strong correlation.rick_chasey said:
No I know. It’s more a judge of how thick they are, to be blunt.rjsterry said:
It's not a Brexit related SC.rick_chasey said:
Mmm not so sure. He’s ERG and Leave Means Leave so all bets are off.rjsterry said:Opposite reasons to Stevo. The email thing is odd, but each to their own. Presumably we can agree that he will be better at the job than Grayling and is less likely to be pushed around by Johnson and Co.
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I don't think, looking at his academic record, you could describe him as thick. I strongly disagree with his views on Europe, but that's a different matter. He's no Mark Francois.rick_chasey said:
No I know. It’s more a judge of how thick they are, to be blunt.rjsterry said:
It's not a Brexit related SC.rick_chasey said:
Mmm not so sure. He’s ERG and Leave Means Leave so all bets are off.rjsterry said:Opposite reasons to Stevo. The email thing is odd, but each to their own. Presumably we can agree that he will be better at the job than Grayling and is less likely to be pushed around by Johnson and Co.
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So Grayling failing to even get a thoroughly undeserved job is a new low.0
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He is however, a spectacular success at failure.surrey_commuter said:So Grayling failing to even get a thoroughly undeserved job is a new low.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
The boasts/threats of revolutionising Whitehall seem to be a little overplayed if they can't even get their man into a select committee. To then think that removing the whip does anything other than draw more attention to being outplayed suggests they are really just not that good at anything other than winning a big national vote.kingstongraham said:
Well I'm sure that will help.webboo said:Julian Lewis has now had the whip removed. More infighting?
They must be bricking it if there's anything to come out, having thought they had stitched it up.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Well then Raab must be super smart....rjsterry said:
I don't think, looking at his academic record, you could describe him as thick. I strongly disagree with his views on Europe, but that's a different matter. He's no Mark Francois.rick_chasey said:
No I know. It’s more a judge of how thick they are, to be blunt.rjsterry said:
It's not a Brexit related SC.rick_chasey said:
Mmm not so sure. He’s ERG and Leave Means Leave so all bets are off.rjsterry said:Opposite reasons to Stevo. The email thing is odd, but each to their own. Presumably we can agree that he will be better at the job than Grayling and is less likely to be pushed around by Johnson and Co.
I’ve been doing this long enough to know academics don’t necessarily mean much.0 -
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/economy/2020/07/adults-room
Reads a little like a puff-piece for the BoE but it's probably near the mark0 -
Other take, more positive on Cummings re lockdown0 -
It feels like stating the obvious, but just because you disagree with someone, doesn't mean they are stupid or lack ability. Lewis is obviously a better bet for the role than Grayling.rick_chasey said:
Well then Raab must be super smart....rjsterry said:
I don't think, looking at his academic record, you could describe him as thick. I strongly disagree with his views on Europe, but that's a different matter. He's no Mark Francois.rick_chasey said:
No I know. It’s more a judge of how thick they are, to be blunt.rjsterry said:
It's not a Brexit related SC.rick_chasey said:
Mmm not so sure. He’s ERG and Leave Means Leave so all bets are off.rjsterry said:Opposite reasons to Stevo. The email thing is odd, but each to their own. Presumably we can agree that he will be better at the job than Grayling and is less likely to be pushed around by Johnson and Co.
I’ve been doing this long enough to know academics don’t necessarily mean much.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Grayling studied at Cambridge - academics don't mean all that much. Seriously. Older I get, the more I think oxbridge is a class thing and not a smarts thing.rjsterry said:
It feels like stating the obvious, but just because you disagree with someone, doesn't mean they are stupid or lack ability. Lewis is obviously a better bet for the role than Grayling.rick_chasey said:
Well then Raab must be super smart....rjsterry said:
I don't think, looking at his academic record, you could describe him as thick. I strongly disagree with his views on Europe, but that's a different matter. He's no Mark Francois.rick_chasey said:
No I know. It’s more a judge of how thick they are, to be blunt.rjsterry said:
It's not a Brexit related SC.rick_chasey said:
Mmm not so sure. He’s ERG and Leave Means Leave so all bets are off.rjsterry said:Opposite reasons to Stevo. The email thing is odd, but each to their own. Presumably we can agree that he will be better at the job than Grayling and is less likely to be pushed around by Johnson and Co.
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So academic qualifications are no indicator of intelligence or ability, but membership of a group of Eurosceptics within Parliament is? FWIW, I don't think Grayling is thick either, just lacking in managerial ability. Anyway, Lewis has previous experience on the ISC and is widely acknowledged to have expertise on defence matters. I think his views on Brexit are at most tangential to this role.rick_chasey said:
Grayling studied at Cambridge - academics don't mean all that much. Seriously. Older I get, the more I think oxbridge is a class thing and not a smarts thing.rjsterry said:
It feels like stating the obvious, but just because you disagree with someone, doesn't mean they are stupid or lack ability. Lewis is obviously a better bet for the role than Grayling.rick_chasey said:
Well then Raab must be super smart....rjsterry said:
I don't think, looking at his academic record, you could describe him as thick. I strongly disagree with his views on Europe, but that's a different matter. He's no Mark Francois.rick_chasey said:
No I know. It’s more a judge of how thick they are, to be blunt.rjsterry said:
It's not a Brexit related SC.rick_chasey said:
Mmm not so sure. He’s ERG and Leave Means Leave so all bets are off.rjsterry said:Opposite reasons to Stevo. The email thing is odd, but each to their own. Presumably we can agree that he will be better at the job than Grayling and is less likely to be pushed around by Johnson and Co.
I’ve been doing this long enough to know academics don’t necessarily mean much.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Let's put it another way: there were some pretty inept people (to put it mildly) on the other side of the Brexit debate, but I didn't disown the entire idea because of their involvement.rick_chasey said:I'll say it again, it's not the views per-se, but what they say about his judgement.
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