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OK, maybe Sunak isn't quite as competent as I thought. Who drops hints of a SDLT holiday in an attempt to boost the property market?
🤦🏻♂️1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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My (and others') point is that by trailing a future cut/holiday you actually depress the market rather than boosting it. The opposite of what was intended. Particularly stupid when the same party managed to change SDLT without pre-announcing it last time, although Osborne's changes didn't exactly help things.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Rapha learned that lesson when everybody stopped buying at RRP and just waited a couple of months for the next sale.rjsterry said:My (and others') point is that by trailing a future cut/holiday you actually depress the market rather than boosting it. The opposite of what was intended. Particularly stupid when the same party managed to change SDLT without pre-announcing it last time, although Osborne's changes didn't exactly help things.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
So basically you're saying its dead easy to be a Labour chancellor.rick_chasey said:
It’s easy to be a chancellor who opens the taps....rjsterry said:OK, maybe Sunak isn't quite as competent as I thought. Who drops hints of a SDLT holiday in an attempt to boost the property market?
🤦🏻♂️"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I reckon a SDLT holiday is large enough to boost the market, but agree giving advance notice has the opposite effect.rjsterry said:OK, maybe Sunak isn't quite as competent as I thought. Who drops hints of a SDLT holiday in an attempt to boost the property market?
🤦🏻♂️"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Not really as you have to get elected to govern first!Stevo_666 said:
So basically you're saying its dead easy to be a Labour chancellor.rick_chasey said:
It’s easy to be a chancellor who opens the taps....rjsterry said:OK, maybe Sunak isn't quite as competent as I thought. Who drops hints of a SDLT holiday in an attempt to boost the property market?
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You will have to find another angle to slate Labour chancellorsStevo_666 said:
So basically you're saying its dead easy to be a Labour chancellor.rick_chasey said:
It’s easy to be a chancellor who opens the taps....rjsterry said:OK, maybe Sunak isn't quite as competent as I thought. Who drops hints of a SDLT holiday in an attempt to boost the property market?
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There aren't any currently so no needsurrey_commuter said:
You will have to find another angle to slate Labour chancellorsStevo_666 said:
So basically you're saying its dead easy to be a Labour chancellor.rick_chasey said:
It’s easy to be a chancellor who opens the taps....rjsterry said:OK, maybe Sunak isn't quite as competent as I thought. Who drops hints of a SDLT holiday in an attempt to boost the property market?
🤦🏻♂️
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Are you sure?Stevo_666 said:
There aren't any currently so no needsurrey_commuter said:
You will have to find another angle to slate Labour chancellorsStevo_666 said:
So basically you're saying its dead easy to be a Labour chancellor.rick_chasey said:
It’s easy to be a chancellor who opens the taps....rjsterry said:OK, maybe Sunak isn't quite as competent as I thought. Who drops hints of a SDLT holiday in an attempt to boost the property market?
🤦🏻♂️
If a cat lives in a kennel is it a dog0 -
I am. The only person who is the chancellor is Rishi Sunak. Theres a Labour shadow chancellor but that's different.surrey_commuter said:
Are you sure?Stevo_666 said:
There aren't any currently so no needsurrey_commuter said:
You will have to find another angle to slate Labour chancellorsStevo_666 said:
So basically you're saying its dead easy to be a Labour chancellor.rick_chasey said:
It’s easy to be a chancellor who opens the taps....rjsterry said:OK, maybe Sunak isn't quite as competent as I thought. Who drops hints of a SDLT holiday in an attempt to boost the property market?
🤦🏻♂️
If a cat lives in a kennel is it a dog"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
would not look out of place with a red rosetteStevo_666 said:
I am. The only person who is the chancellor is Rishi Sunak. Theres a Labour shadow chancellor but that's different.surrey_commuter said:
Are you sure?Stevo_666 said:
There aren't any currently so no needsurrey_commuter said:
You will have to find another angle to slate Labour chancellorsStevo_666 said:
So basically you're saying its dead easy to be a Labour chancellor.rick_chasey said:
It’s easy to be a chancellor who opens the taps....rjsterry said:OK, maybe Sunak isn't quite as competent as I thought. Who drops hints of a SDLT holiday in an attempt to boost the property market?
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If a cat lives in a kennel is it a dog0 -
Exceptional circumstances?surrey_commuter said:
would not look out of place with a red rosetteStevo_666 said:
I am. The only person who is the chancellor is Rishi Sunak. Theres a Labour shadow chancellor but that's different.surrey_commuter said:
Are you sure?Stevo_666 said:
There aren't any currently so no needsurrey_commuter said:
You will have to find another angle to slate Labour chancellorsStevo_666 said:
So basically you're saying its dead easy to be a Labour chancellor.rick_chasey said:
It’s easy to be a chancellor who opens the taps....rjsterry said:OK, maybe Sunak isn't quite as competent as I thought. Who drops hints of a SDLT holiday in an attempt to boost the property market?
🤦🏻♂️
If a cat lives in a kennel is it a dog"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
It was £60bn before C19 and planned to stay there for five years.Stevo_666 said:
Exceptional circumstances?surrey_commuter said:
would not look out of place with a red rosetteStevo_666 said:
I am. The only person who is the chancellor is Rishi Sunak. Theres a Labour shadow chancellor but that's different.surrey_commuter said:
Are you sure?Stevo_666 said:
There aren't any currently so no needsurrey_commuter said:
You will have to find another angle to slate Labour chancellorsStevo_666 said:
So basically you're saying its dead easy to be a Labour chancellor.rick_chasey said:
It’s easy to be a chancellor who opens the taps....rjsterry said:OK, maybe Sunak isn't quite as competent as I thought. Who drops hints of a SDLT holiday in an attempt to boost the property market?
🤦🏻♂️
If a cat lives in a kennel is it a dog
I remember when you would have agreed that was treasonous behaviour.
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Well labour did win the argument!surrey_commuter said:
It was £60bn before C19 and planned to stay there for five years.Stevo_666 said:
Exceptional circumstances?surrey_commuter said:
would not look out of place with a red rosetteStevo_666 said:
I am. The only person who is the chancellor is Rishi Sunak. Theres a Labour shadow chancellor but that's different.surrey_commuter said:
Are you sure?Stevo_666 said:
There aren't any currently so no needsurrey_commuter said:
You will have to find another angle to slate Labour chancellorsStevo_666 said:
So basically you're saying its dead easy to be a Labour chancellor.rick_chasey said:
It’s easy to be a chancellor who opens the taps....rjsterry said:OK, maybe Sunak isn't quite as competent as I thought. Who drops hints of a SDLT holiday in an attempt to boost the property market?
🤦🏻♂️
If a cat lives in a kennel is it a dog
I remember when you would have agreed that was treasonous behaviour.0 -
Maybe a more centrist opposition would not have dragged the Tories so far left on spending....0
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A decade of austerity will do that too in fairness.kingstongraham said:Maybe a more centrist opposition would not have dragged the Tories so far left on spending....
Problem is that and the Brexit project choked off the recovery0 -
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Confirming Marc Francois is an absolute fool.0
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I guess they would have won the election if that had been the case. But even if you were right, I'd prefer them to win the argument and lose the election rather than the other way aoundJeremy.89 said:
Well labour did win the argument!surrey_commuter said:
It was £60bn before C19 and planned to stay there for five years.Stevo_666 said:
Exceptional circumstances?surrey_commuter said:
would not look out of place with a red rosetteStevo_666 said:
I am. The only person who is the chancellor is Rishi Sunak. Theres a Labour shadow chancellor but that's different.surrey_commuter said:
Are you sure?Stevo_666 said:
There aren't any currently so no needsurrey_commuter said:
You will have to find another angle to slate Labour chancellorsStevo_666 said:
So basically you're saying its dead easy to be a Labour chancellor.rick_chasey said:
It’s easy to be a chancellor who opens the taps....rjsterry said:OK, maybe Sunak isn't quite as competent as I thought. Who drops hints of a SDLT holiday in an attempt to boost the property market?
🤦🏻♂️
If a cat lives in a kennel is it a dog
I remember when you would have agreed that was treasonous behaviour. "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Same outcome - a complete tvvat spending other people’s money like a drunken sailorStevo_666 said:
I guess they would have won the election if that had been the case. But even if you were right, I'd prefer them to win the argument and lose the election rather than the other way aoundJeremy.89 said:
Well labour did win the argument!surrey_commuter said:
It was £60bn before C19 and planned to stay there for five years.Stevo_666 said:
Exceptional circumstances?surrey_commuter said:
would not look out of place with a red rosetteStevo_666 said:
I am. The only person who is the chancellor is Rishi Sunak. Theres a Labour shadow chancellor but that's different.surrey_commuter said:
Are you sure?Stevo_666 said:
There aren't any currently so no needsurrey_commuter said:
You will have to find another angle to slate Labour chancellorsStevo_666 said:
So basically you're saying its dead easy to be a Labour chancellor.rick_chasey said:
It’s easy to be a chancellor who opens the taps....rjsterry said:OK, maybe Sunak isn't quite as competent as I thought. Who drops hints of a SDLT holiday in an attempt to boost the property market?
🤦🏻♂️
If a cat lives in a kennel is it a dog
I remember when you would have agreed that was treasonous behaviour.0 -
Think about which one will confiscate less of our hard earned to do that and vote for them...surrey_commuter said:
Same outcome - a complete tvvat spending other people’s money like a drunken sailorStevo_666 said:
I guess they would have won the election if that had been the case. But even if you were right, I'd prefer them to win the argument and lose the election rather than the other way aoundJeremy.89 said:
Well labour did win the argument!surrey_commuter said:
It was £60bn before C19 and planned to stay there for five years.Stevo_666 said:
Exceptional circumstances?surrey_commuter said:
would not look out of place with a red rosetteStevo_666 said:
I am. The only person who is the chancellor is Rishi Sunak. Theres a Labour shadow chancellor but that's different.surrey_commuter said:
Are you sure?Stevo_666 said:
There aren't any currently so no needsurrey_commuter said:
You will have to find another angle to slate Labour chancellorsStevo_666 said:
So basically you're saying its dead easy to be a Labour chancellor.rick_chasey said:
It’s easy to be a chancellor who opens the taps....rjsterry said:OK, maybe Sunak isn't quite as competent as I thought. Who drops hints of a SDLT holiday in an attempt to boost the property market?
🤦🏻♂️
If a cat lives in a kennel is it a dog
I remember when you would have agreed that was treasonous behaviour."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
And then add another few billion by d1cking around with stamp dutyStevo_666 said:
Think about which one will confiscate less of our hard earned to do that and vote for them...surrey_commuter said:
Same outcome - a complete tvvat spending other people’s money like a drunken sailorStevo_666 said:
I guess they would have won the election if that had been the case. But even if you were right, I'd prefer them to win the argument and lose the election rather than the other way aoundJeremy.89 said:
Well labour did win the argument!surrey_commuter said:
It was £60bn before C19 and planned to stay there for five years.Stevo_666 said:
Exceptional circumstances?surrey_commuter said:
would not look out of place with a red rosetteStevo_666 said:
I am. The only person who is the chancellor is Rishi Sunak. Theres a Labour shadow chancellor but that's different.surrey_commuter said:
Are you sure?Stevo_666 said:
There aren't any currently so no needsurrey_commuter said:
You will have to find another angle to slate Labour chancellorsStevo_666 said:
So basically you're saying its dead easy to be a Labour chancellor.rick_chasey said:
It’s easy to be a chancellor who opens the taps....rjsterry said:OK, maybe Sunak isn't quite as competent as I thought. Who drops hints of a SDLT holiday in an attempt to boost the property market?
🤦🏻♂️
If a cat lives in a kennel is it a dog
I remember when you would have agreed that was treasonous behaviour.0 -
Surely if the outcome of winning the argument and not the election is that your policies get implemented, you'd rather your side lost!Stevo_666 said:
I guess they would have won the election if that had been the case. But even if you were right, I'd prefer them to win the argument and lose the election rather than the other way aoundJeremy.89 said:
Well labour did win the argument!surrey_commuter said:
It was £60bn before C19 and planned to stay there for five years.Stevo_666 said:
Exceptional circumstances?surrey_commuter said:
would not look out of place with a red rosetteStevo_666 said:
I am. The only person who is the chancellor is Rishi Sunak. Theres a Labour shadow chancellor but that's different.surrey_commuter said:
Are you sure?Stevo_666 said:
There aren't any currently so no needsurrey_commuter said:
You will have to find another angle to slate Labour chancellorsStevo_666 said:
So basically you're saying its dead easy to be a Labour chancellor.rick_chasey said:
It’s easy to be a chancellor who opens the taps....rjsterry said:OK, maybe Sunak isn't quite as competent as I thought. Who drops hints of a SDLT holiday in an attempt to boost the property market?
🤦🏻♂️
If a cat lives in a kennel is it a dog
I remember when you would have agreed that was treasonous behaviour.0 -
that was certainly the attitude taken by Momentum and why they seem to hate Blair more than Thatcher.Jeremy.89 said:
Surely if the outcome of winning the argument and not the election is that your policies get implemented, you'd rather your side lost!Stevo_666 said:
I guess they would have won the election if that had been the case. But even if you were right, I'd prefer them to win the argument and lose the election rather than the other way aoundJeremy.89 said:
Well labour did win the argument!surrey_commuter said:
It was £60bn before C19 and planned to stay there for five years.Stevo_666 said:
Exceptional circumstances?surrey_commuter said:
would not look out of place with a red rosetteStevo_666 said:
I am. The only person who is the chancellor is Rishi Sunak. Theres a Labour shadow chancellor but that's different.surrey_commuter said:
Are you sure?Stevo_666 said:
There aren't any currently so no needsurrey_commuter said:
You will have to find another angle to slate Labour chancellorsStevo_666 said:
So basically you're saying its dead easy to be a Labour chancellor.rick_chasey said:
It’s easy to be a chancellor who opens the taps....rjsterry said:OK, maybe Sunak isn't quite as competent as I thought. Who drops hints of a SDLT holiday in an attempt to boost the property market?
🤦🏻♂️
If a cat lives in a kennel is it a dog
I remember when you would have agreed that was treasonous behaviour.
personally whilst being a natural Conservative i don't see them as "my side" so take no pleasure from them winning and then acting like a Labour Govt.0 -
From the point of view of the voter, absolutely. Unless of course you are more interested in which group of politicians gets in than what they actually do once they are there. Obviously, if you are an MP, you might want to keep your job.Jeremy.89 said:
Surely if the outcome of winning the argument and not the election is that your policies get implemented, you'd rather your side lost!Stevo_666 said:
I guess they would have won the election if that had been the case. But even if you were right, I'd prefer them to win the argument and lose the election rather than the other way aoundJeremy.89 said:
Well labour did win the argument!surrey_commuter said:
It was £60bn before C19 and planned to stay there for five years.Stevo_666 said:
Exceptional circumstances?surrey_commuter said:
would not look out of place with a red rosetteStevo_666 said:
I am. The only person who is the chancellor is Rishi Sunak. Theres a Labour shadow chancellor but that's different.surrey_commuter said:
Are you sure?Stevo_666 said:
There aren't any currently so no needsurrey_commuter said:
You will have to find another angle to slate Labour chancellorsStevo_666 said:
So basically you're saying its dead easy to be a Labour chancellor.rick_chasey said:
It’s easy to be a chancellor who opens the taps....rjsterry said:OK, maybe Sunak isn't quite as competent as I thought. Who drops hints of a SDLT holiday in an attempt to boost the property market?
🤦🏻♂️
If a cat lives in a kennel is it a dog
I remember when you would have agreed that was treasonous behaviour.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Spending argument aside, that is only one side of the coin. How they tax us to finance that is relevant and Labour still treats people me like as the enemy.Jeremy.89 said:
Surely if the outcome of winning the argument and not the election is that your policies get implemented, you'd rather your side lost!Stevo_666 said:
I guess they would have won the election if that had been the case. But even if you were right, I'd prefer them to win the argument and lose the election rather than the other way aoundJeremy.89 said:
Well labour did win the argument!surrey_commuter said:
It was £60bn before C19 and planned to stay there for five years.Stevo_666 said:
Exceptional circumstances?surrey_commuter said:
would not look out of place with a red rosetteStevo_666 said:
I am. The only person who is the chancellor is Rishi Sunak. Theres a Labour shadow chancellor but that's different.surrey_commuter said:
Are you sure?Stevo_666 said:
There aren't any currently so no needsurrey_commuter said:
You will have to find another angle to slate Labour chancellorsStevo_666 said:
So basically you're saying its dead easy to be a Labour chancellor.rick_chasey said:
It’s easy to be a chancellor who opens the taps....rjsterry said:OK, maybe Sunak isn't quite as competent as I thought. Who drops hints of a SDLT holiday in an attempt to boost the property market?
🤦🏻♂️
If a cat lives in a kennel is it a dog
I remember when you would have agreed that was treasonous behaviour."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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If the borrowing and spending is a done deal we are arguing about ways of paying it off. It feels odd that you appear to be arguing for paying it off slower.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Not really, I don't fancy being seen as a cash cow that's all.rjsterry said:People like...?
If the borrowing and spending is a done deal we are arguing about ways of paying it off. It feels odd that you appear to be arguing for paying it off slower."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
