LEAVE the Conservative Party and save your country!

rick_chasey

Was reminded of this: the core claim of populism "only some of the people are really the people"

rjsterry

Oh, so that's how Johnson is going to dump his Health Secretary.

pblakeney

rjsterry said:

Oh, so that's how Johnson is going to dump his Health Secretary.

He best be wary. Doesn't want to set a precedent of behaviour standards.

rick_chasey

Does have the classic "the sun has had the dirt on him for however many weeks, let's drop it at the right moment" vibe.

Pause in the football, in the morning so it will dominate Friday news and then over the weekend too.

rjsterry

rick_chasey said:

Does have the classic "the sun has had the dirt on him for however many weeks, let's drop it at the right moment" vibe.

Pause in the football, in the morning so it will dominate Friday news and then over the weekend too.

I don't think you get hold of CCTV images from a cabinet minister's office without them being deliberately leaked. I guess sacking him now would reflect too much responsibility on Johnson so better to engineer his departure via some other route.

elbowloh

rjsterry said:

rick_chasey said:

Does have the classic "the sun has had the dirt on him for however many weeks, let's drop it at the right moment" vibe.

Pause in the football, in the morning so it will dominate Friday news and then over the weekend too.

I don't think you get hold of CCTV images from a cabinet minister's office without them being deliberately leaked. I guess sacking him now would reflect too much responsibility on Johnson so better to engineer his departure via some other route.

This. He's being levered out now.

rick_chasey

rjsterry said:

rick_chasey said:

Does have the classic "the sun has had the dirt on him for however many weeks, let's drop it at the right moment" vibe.

Pause in the football, in the morning so it will dominate Friday news and then over the weekend too.

I don't think you get hold of CCTV images from a cabinet minister's office without them being deliberately leaked. I guess sacking him now would reflect too much responsibility on Johnson so better to engineer his departure via some other route.

Again, I don't think this is contrary to what I am saying.

surrey_commuter

surely this makes Hancock unsackable? BoJo can't fire him for shagging and now can't ease him out becuase it will look like he was fired for shagging around

a true conspiracist would suggest that this was staged my Hancock and if he can engineer a new shagging scandal every three months he is safe

kingstongraham

"A Department of Health spokesman said that Coladangelo had been appointed in the usual way"

rjsterry

rick_chasey said:

rjsterry said:

rick_chasey said:

Does have the classic "the sun has had the dirt on him for however many weeks, let's drop it at the right moment" vibe.

Pause in the football, in the morning so it will dominate Friday news and then over the weekend too.

I don't think you get hold of CCTV images from a cabinet minister's office without them being deliberately leaked. I guess sacking him now would reflect too much responsibility on Johnson so better to engineer his departure via some other route.

Again, I don't think this is contrary to what I am saying.

No, I wasn't suggesting it is.

rjsterry

surrey_commuter said:

surely this makes Hancock unsackable? BoJo can't fire him for shagging and now can't ease him out becuase it will look like he was fired for shagging around

a true conspiracist would suggest that this was staged my Hancock and if he can engineer a new shagging scandal every three months he is safe

Hmm, you don't think he can resign to 'spend more time with his family'?

surrey_commuter

rjsterry said:

surrey_commuter said:

surely this makes Hancock unsackable? BoJo can't fire him for shagging and now can't ease him out becuase it will look like he was fired for shagging around

a true conspiracist would suggest that this was staged my Hancock and if he can engineer a new shagging scandal every three months he is safe

Hmm, you don't think he can resign to 'spend more time with his family'?

why would he resign?

In fairness to BoJo he does not seem to be a hypocrite when it comes to sacking people for being incompetent, corrupt, lying or morally lax. He also seems to have a big thing about not letting the media hound anybody out of a job.

I imagine Williamson is desparately trying to find some coke, hookers and a good photographer

Pross

So did he not know aboout the CCTV cameras (which would be worrying) or simply not care which would suggest getting rumbled wouldn't bother him.

kingstongraham

I'm disgusted he didn't have a union jack behind him

rjsterry

surrey_commuter said:

rjsterry said:

surrey_commuter said:

surely this makes Hancock unsackable? BoJo can't fire him for shagging and now can't ease him out becuase it will look like he was fired for shagging around

a true conspiracist would suggest that this was staged my Hancock and if he can engineer a new shagging scandal every three months he is safe

Hmm, you don't think he can resign to 'spend more time with his family'?

why would he resign?

In fairness to BoJo he does not seem to be a hypocrite when it comes to sacking people for being incompetent, corrupt, lying or morally lax. He also seems to have a big thing about not letting the media hound anybody out of a job.

I imagine Williamson is desparately trying to find some coke, hookers and a good photographer

Johnson doesn't sack anyone because he's a coward. Hancock can make up whatever reason he likes. Easier to jump now before he officially gets the blame.

TheBigBean

rjsterry said:

surrey_commuter said:

rjsterry said:

surrey_commuter said:

surely this makes Hancock unsackable? BoJo can't fire him for shagging and now can't ease him out becuase it will look like he was fired for shagging around

a true conspiracist would suggest that this was staged my Hancock and if he can engineer a new shagging scandal every three months he is safe

Hmm, you don't think he can resign to 'spend more time with his family'?

why would he resign?

In fairness to BoJo he does not seem to be a hypocrite when it comes to sacking people for being incompetent, corrupt, lying or morally lax. He also seems to have a big thing about not letting the media hound anybody out of a job.

I imagine Williamson is desparately trying to find some coke, hookers and a good photographer

Johnson doesn't sack anyone because he's a coward. Hancock can make up whatever reason he likes. Easier to jump now before he officially gets the blame.

He is many things, but I don't think that is true. For example, I think sacking Cummings would have been fairly cowardly as it was a definite crowd pleaser.

rjsterry

TheBigBean said:

rjsterry said:

surrey_commuter said:

rjsterry said:

surrey_commuter said:

surely this makes Hancock unsackable? BoJo can't fire him for shagging and now can't ease him out becuase it will look like he was fired for shagging around

a true conspiracist would suggest that this was staged my Hancock and if he can engineer a new shagging scandal every three months he is safe

Hmm, you don't think he can resign to 'spend more time with his family'?

why would he resign?

In fairness to BoJo he does not seem to be a hypocrite when it comes to sacking people for being incompetent, corrupt, lying or morally lax. He also seems to have a big thing about not letting the media hound anybody out of a job.

I imagine Williamson is desparately trying to find some coke, hookers and a good photographer

Johnson doesn't sack anyone because he's a coward. Hancock can make up whatever reason he likes. Easier to jump now before he officially gets the blame.

He is many things, but I don't think that is true. For example, I think sacking Cummings would have been fairly cowardly as it was a definite crowd pleaser.

But would mean having to face up to Cummings. I think you could use that as evidence either way.

TheBigBean

rjsterry said:

TheBigBean said:

rjsterry said:

surrey_commuter said:

rjsterry said:

surrey_commuter said:

surely this makes Hancock unsackable? BoJo can't fire him for shagging and now can't ease him out becuase it will look like he was fired for shagging around

a true conspiracist would suggest that this was staged my Hancock and if he can engineer a new shagging scandal every three months he is safe

Hmm, you don't think he can resign to 'spend more time with his family'?

why would he resign?

In fairness to BoJo he does not seem to be a hypocrite when it comes to sacking people for being incompetent, corrupt, lying or morally lax. He also seems to have a big thing about not letting the media hound anybody out of a job.

I imagine Williamson is desparately trying to find some coke, hookers and a good photographer

Johnson doesn't sack anyone because he's a coward. Hancock can make up whatever reason he likes. Easier to jump now before he officially gets the blame.

He is many things, but I don't think that is true. For example, I think sacking Cummings would have been fairly cowardly as it was a definite crowd pleaser.

But would mean having to face up to Cummings. I think you could use that as evidence either way.

He sacked him anyway though, so he ended up doing both things.

rjsterry

TheBigBean said:

rjsterry said:

TheBigBean said:

rjsterry said:

surrey_commuter said:

rjsterry said:

surrey_commuter said:

surely this makes Hancock unsackable? BoJo can't fire him for shagging and now can't ease him out becuase it will look like he was fired for shagging around

a true conspiracist would suggest that this was staged my Hancock and if he can engineer a new shagging scandal every three months he is safe

Hmm, you don't think he can resign to 'spend more time with his family'?

why would he resign?

In fairness to BoJo he does not seem to be a hypocrite when it comes to sacking people for being incompetent, corrupt, lying or morally lax. He also seems to have a big thing about not letting the media hound anybody out of a job.

I imagine Williamson is desparately trying to find some coke, hookers and a good photographer

Johnson doesn't sack anyone because he's a coward. Hancock can make up whatever reason he likes. Easier to jump now before he officially gets the blame.

He is many things, but I don't think that is true. For example, I think sacking Cummings would have been fairly cowardly as it was a definite crowd pleaser.

But would mean having to face up to Cummings. I think you could use that as evidence either way.

He sacked him anyway though, so he ended up doing both things.

I thought he resigned.

surrey_commuter

rjsterry said:

TheBigBean said:

rjsterry said:

TheBigBean said:

rjsterry said:

surrey_commuter said:

rjsterry said:

surrey_commuter said:

surely this makes Hancock unsackable? BoJo can't fire him for shagging and now can't ease him out becuase it will look like he was fired for shagging around

a true conspiracist would suggest that this was staged my Hancock and if he can engineer a new shagging scandal every three months he is safe

Hmm, you don't think he can resign to 'spend more time with his family'?

why would he resign?

In fairness to BoJo he does not seem to be a hypocrite when it comes to sacking people for being incompetent, corrupt, lying or morally lax. He also seems to have a big thing about not letting the media hound anybody out of a job.

I imagine Williamson is desparately trying to find some coke, hookers and a good photographer

Johnson doesn't sack anyone because he's a coward. Hancock can make up whatever reason he likes. Easier to jump now before he officially gets the blame.

He is many things, but I don't think that is true. For example, I think sacking Cummings would have been fairly cowardly as it was a definite crowd pleaser.

But would mean having to face up to Cummings. I think you could use that as evidence either way.

He sacked him anyway though, so he ended up doing both things.

I thought he resigned.

Boris only sacks people for being mean to his girlfriend. Carrie should take note that for obvious reasons he has never sacked somebody for being mean to his wife

TheBigBean

rjsterry said:

TheBigBean said:

rjsterry said:

TheBigBean said:

rjsterry said:

surrey_commuter said:

rjsterry said:

surrey_commuter said:

surely this makes Hancock unsackable? BoJo can't fire him for shagging and now can't ease him out becuase it will look like he was fired for shagging around

a true conspiracist would suggest that this was staged my Hancock and if he can engineer a new shagging scandal every three months he is safe

Hmm, you don't think he can resign to 'spend more time with his family'?

why would he resign?

In fairness to BoJo he does not seem to be a hypocrite when it comes to sacking people for being incompetent, corrupt, lying or morally lax. He also seems to have a big thing about not letting the media hound anybody out of a job.

I imagine Williamson is desparately trying to find some coke, hookers and a good photographer

Johnson doesn't sack anyone because he's a coward. Hancock can make up whatever reason he likes. Easier to jump now before he officially gets the blame.

He is many things, but I don't think that is true. For example, I think sacking Cummings would have been fairly cowardly as it was a definite crowd pleaser.

But would mean having to face up to Cummings. I think you could use that as evidence either way.

He sacked him anyway though, so he ended up doing both things.

I thought he resigned.

I thought he was fired due to Princess Nuts Nuts or because he leaked something for personal gain. He has since vigorously denied the latter suggestion by leaking lots of documents in support of his position.

Perhaps he did resign, but that sounds like a Cummings history rewrite.

rjsterry

TheBigBean said:

rjsterry said:

TheBigBean said:

rjsterry said:

TheBigBean said:

rjsterry said:

surrey_commuter said:

rjsterry said:

surrey_commuter said:

surely this makes Hancock unsackable? BoJo can't fire him for shagging and now can't ease him out becuase it will look like he was fired for shagging around

a true conspiracist would suggest that this was staged my Hancock and if he can engineer a new shagging scandal every three months he is safe

Hmm, you don't think he can resign to 'spend more time with his family'?

why would he resign?

In fairness to BoJo he does not seem to be a hypocrite when it comes to sacking people for being incompetent, corrupt, lying or morally lax. He also seems to have a big thing about not letting the media hound anybody out of a job.

I imagine Williamson is desparately trying to find some coke, hookers and a good photographer

Johnson doesn't sack anyone because he's a coward. Hancock can make up whatever reason he likes. Easier to jump now before he officially gets the blame.

He is many things, but I don't think that is true. For example, I think sacking Cummings would have been fairly cowardly as it was a definite crowd pleaser.

But would mean having to face up to Cummings. I think you could use that as evidence either way.

He sacked him anyway though, so he ended up doing both things.

I thought he resigned.

I thought he was fired due to Princess Nuts Nuts or because he leaked something for personal gain. He has since vigorously denied the latter suggestion by leaking lots of documents in support of his position.

Perhaps he did resign, but that sounds like a Cummings history rewrite.

Have just checked and while he was clearly forced out after Lee Cain, I think he technically resigned.

ddraver

Surely the only question here is, Is it more 'brave' to stand up to your wife or your advisor?

tailwindhome

PM standing by him

Conservatives +3

rick_chasey

Given how sanctimonious Hancock was about Ferguson. The spinelessness of it all.

rick_chasey

ddraver said:

Surely the only question here is, Is it more 'brave' to stand up to your wife or your advisor?

The state of your marriage if you need to 'stand up' to the wife. SMH.

surrey_commuter

rick_chasey said:

ddraver said:

Surely the only question here is, Is it more 'brave' to stand up to your wife or your advisor?

The state of your marriage if you need to 'stand up' to the wife. SMH.

She was not his wife at the time

morstar

Is this not an elaborate cover?

As I don’t follow their personal lives I don’t know but, I’d have assumed Hancock was gay.

focuszing723

I guess, Ar$e / Kiss / Embrace, is the new slogan.

rjsterry

Well this has totally ruined One Britain One Nation Day.