Giro 2018, Stage 16: Trento - Rovereto - 34.2 kilometres, *Spoilers*

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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Dowsett was top 10 during stage 1 but pretty quiet since. He's my wild card for today... though I haven't risked him for PTP.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,228
    inseine wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    In the last stage both Tony Martin and Alex Dowsett came in five minutes behind the grupetto to try and get as early a start time today as they could.

    seems a lot of effort for 4 or 5 minute earlier start

    Dropped 14 places - doesn't sound like much extra effort was involved.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,029
    dish_dash wrote:
    Dowsett was top 10 during stage 1 but pretty quiet since. He's my wild card for today... though I haven't risked him for PTP.

    Dowsett is currently more than 50-1. Should I take a punt based on your insight?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    TheBigBean wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    Dowsett was top 10 during stage 1 but pretty quiet since. He's my wild card for today... though I haven't risked him for PTP.

    Dowsett is currently more than 50-1. Should I take a punt based on your insight?

    E-W?

    Possibly.

    Not a dead cert. But those odds are way out.
    _
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,029
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    Dowsett was top 10 during stage 1 but pretty quiet since. He's my wild card for today... though I haven't risked him for PTP.

    Dowsett is currently more than 50-1. Should I take a punt based on your insight?

    E-W?

    Possibly.

    Not a dead cert. But those odds are way out.

    I've taken 60-1 to win. Not much liquidity in the place market. If he wins, I might even buy dish a drink!
  • inmsotall
    inmsotall Posts: 16
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    Dowsett was top 10 during stage 1 but pretty quiet since. He's my wild card for today... though I haven't risked him for PTP.

    Dowsett is currently more than 50-1. Should I take a punt based on your insight?

    E-W?

    Possibly.

    Not a dead cert. But those odds are way out.

    I've just placed that bet. Only £5@34-1. Pays £108 if he wins.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Kirby opens up by saying that it's a pretty technical finish.
    Kelly opens up by saying it isn't a technical finish.

    Can Uncle Tom catch Diddy Domenico for 3 minutes, I wonder?
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    inmsotall wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    Dowsett was top 10 during stage 1 but pretty quiet since. He's my wild card for today... though I haven't risked him for PTP.

    Dowsett is currently more than 50-1. Should I take a punt based on your insight?

    E-W?

    Possibly.

    Not a dead cert. But those odds are way out.

    I've just placed that bet. Only £5@34-1. Pays £108 if he wins.

    what odds would you get for a top 3 finish?
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,029
    Times CET

    21 Victor Campenaerts (Bel) Lotto Soudal 13:40:00
    33 Alex Dowsett (GBr) Katusha-Alpecin 13:52:00
    45 Vasil Kiryienka (Blr) Team Sky 14:04:00
    49 Jos van Emden (Ned) LottoNL-Jumbo 14:08:00
    50 Alexey Lutsenko (Kaz) Astana Pro Team 14:09:00
    54 Tony Martin (Ger) Katusha-Alpecin 14:13:00
    140 Fabio Aru (Ita) UAE Team Emirates 15:39:00
    141 Mikel Nieve (Spa) Mitchelton-Scott 15:40:00
    142 José Gonçalves (Por) Katusha-Alpecin 15:41:00
    143 Sergio Henao (Col) Team Sky 15:42:00
    144 Davide Formolo (Ita) Bora-Hansgrohe 15:43:00
    145 Michael Woods (Can) EF Education First-Drapac p/b Cannondale 15:44:00
    146 Wout Poels (Ned) Team Sky 15:45:00
    147 Alexandre Geniez (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 15:48:00
    148 Carlos Alberto Betancur Gomez 15:51:00
    149 Sam Oomen (Ned) Team Sunweb 15:54:00
    150 Ben O'Connor (Aus) Dimension Data 15:57:00
    151 Rohan Dennis (Aus) BMC Racing Team 16:00:00
    152 Patrick Konrad (Aut) Bora-Hansgrohe 16:03:00
    153 Pello Bilbao (Spa) Astana Pro Team 16:06:00
    154 George Bennett (NZl) LottoNL-Jumbo 16:09:00
    155 Chris Froome (GBr) Team Sky 16:12:00
    156 Richard Carapaz (Ecu) Movistar Team 16:15:00
    157 Miguel Angel Lopez (Col) Astana Pro Team 16:18:00
    158 Thibaut Pinot (Fra) Groupama-FDJ 16:21:00
    159 Domenico Pozzovivo (Ita) Bahrain-Merida 16:24:00
    160 Tom Dumoulin (Ned) Team Sunweb 16:27:00
    161 Simon Yates (GBr) Mitchelton-Scott 16:30:00
  • ben@31
    ben@31 Posts: 2,327
    Start times ( in British Summer Time)

    Froome 15:12
    Carapaz 15:15
    Moreno 15:18
    Pinot 15:21
    Pozzovivo 15:24
    Dumoulin 15:27
    Yates 15:30
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  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    why the big timegaps on start time in the beginning? team / car / comissaire logistics?
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    In the last stage both Tony Martin and Alex Dowsett came in five minutes behind the grupetto to try and get as early a start time today as they could.

    seems a lot of effort for 4 or 5 minute earlier start

    Dropped 14 places - doesn't sound like much extra effort was involved.

    OK. we'll see if the 14minutes earlier start is any better I guess.
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  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    why the big timegaps on start time in the beginning? team / car / comissaire logistics?

    You mean at the end?
    http://cyclinganddesign.blogspot.fr/
  • inmsotall
    inmsotall Posts: 16
    mididoctors wrote:
    inmsotall wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    Dowsett was top 10 during stage 1 but pretty quiet since. He's my wild card for today... though I haven't risked him for PTP.

    Dowsett is currently more than 50-1. Should I take a punt based on your insight?

    E-W?

    Possibly.

    Not a dead cert. But those odds are way out.

    I've just placed that bet. Only £5@34-1. Pays £108 if he wins.

    what odds would you get for a top 3 finish?

    Around £23 (I think)
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    Mullen goes through 12.7k in 15.55. fastest i think.
    http://cyclinganddesign.blogspot.fr/
  • larkim
    larkim Posts: 2,485
    Is it already raining at the finish? My weather app seems to think so.
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  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    visit from Mr Cramp for Mullen
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    No. Cr app.

    Mullen has cramped.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    The finish looks like a Willier TTT. :lol:
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  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    Dumoulin to overcook it chasing seconds and end up in tangle mess in the crowd. Froome will do likewise but his back wheel will continue to spin, melting the twitter-sphere.
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    Dowsett slower than Mullen at first check, but this could be a good thing all concidered
    http://cyclinganddesign.blogspot.fr/
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183
    I'd forgotten about Kiri. Must be in with a decent shout unless Sky think they have another chance of a surprise stage.
  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    I'd forgotten about Kiri. Must be in with a decent shout unless Sky think they have another chance of a surprise stage.

    I think he'd prefer it to be a lot harder. But he might surprise us.
  • larkim
    larkim Posts: 2,485
    Has anyone tried the Alpecin shampoo?
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    2011 Specialized Hardrock Sport Disc (son #4s)
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    In terms of time, this course is 10 minutes shorter than last year's.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    larkim wrote:
    Has anyone tried the Alpecin shampoo?
    leaves a salt residue leading to a rusty bottom bracket
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    larkim wrote:
    Has anyone tried the Alpecin shampoo?

    I prefer coffee. :P

    Home Bargains do a rip off for 99p, btw.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183
    hopefully Sean and Hatch have locked Kirby out of the commentary box
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Campanaerts' kit makes it look like he is wearing a white leotard over black tights. Very strange.
  • larkim
    larkim Posts: 2,485
    Has Froome fallen off on a recce yet?
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