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  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,451
    AquaBlue's current roster, none of whom have transfers announced yet (other than Brammeier who has retired). Can't help but feel worried for their future in the sport :(

    ARCHBOLD Shane
    BLYTHE Adam
    BRAMMEIER Matthew
    CHRISTIAN Mark
    DENIFL Stefan
    DUNBAR Eddie
    DUNNE Conor
    FENN Andrew
    GATE Aaron
    HANSEN Lasse Norman
    KONING Peter
    KREDER Michel
    PEARSON Daniel
    PEDERSEN Casper Phillip
    WARBASSE Larry
    WATSON Calvin
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Rumours of Roche and Dombrowski to Sunweb
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,719
    Nico Roche to forget finishing 14th in a GT and work for another rider...

    Chapter 5467...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    Sosa confirmed to Trek Segafredo.
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    ddraver wrote:
    Nico Roche to forget finishing 14th in a GT and work for another rider...

    Chapter 5467...

    Currently 22nd and best BMC rider at the Vuelta.... :D
    http://cyclinganddesign.blogspot.fr/
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,719
    Will make you a bet that his final position will be double figures...

    ...with the caveat that Richie Porte hasnt taken the entire GC group down and out tripping over a leaf or something...

    If there was ever a rider that needed to learn to enjoy team success over personal success...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • cruff
    cruff Posts: 1,518
    r0bh wrote:
    AquaBlue's current roster, none of whom have transfers announced yet (other than Brammeier who has retired). Can't help but feel worried for their future in the sport :(

    ARCHBOLD Shane
    BLYTHE Adam
    BRAMMEIER Matthew
    CHRISTIAN Mark
    DENIFL Stefan
    DUNBAR Eddie
    DUNNE Conor
    FENN Andrew
    GATE Aaron
    HANSEN Lasse Norman
    KONING Peter
    KREDER Michel
    PEARSON Daniel
    PEDERSEN Casper Phillip
    WARBASSE Larry
    WATSON Calvin

    Think Blythey will get a ride somewhere. The rest of them are journeymen though, so yeah - I'd be worried
    Fat chopper. Some racing. Some testing. Some crashing.
    Specialising in Git Daaahns and Cafs. Norvern Munkey/Transplanted Laaandoner.
  • mamil314
    mamil314 Posts: 1,103
    inseine wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    Nico Roche to forget finishing 14th in a GT and work for another rider...

    Chapter 5467...

    Currently 22nd and best BMC rider at the Vuelta.... :D

    Did they bring a C team into a B team fight
  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    mamil314 wrote:

    Did they bring a C team into a B team fight

    I watched C-teams glitter in the dark......
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    Cruff wrote:
    r0bh wrote:
    AquaBlue's current roster, none of whom have transfers announced yet (other than Brammeier who has retired). Can't help but feel worried for their future in the sport :(

    ARCHBOLD Shane
    BLYTHE Adam
    BRAMMEIER Matthew
    CHRISTIAN Mark
    DENIFL Stefan
    DUNBAR Eddie
    DUNNE Conor
    FENN Andrew
    GATE Aaron
    HANSEN Lasse Norman
    KONING Peter
    KREDER Michel
    PEARSON Daniel
    PEDERSEN Casper Phillip
    WARBASSE Larry
    WATSON Calvin

    Think Blythey will get a ride somewhere. The rest of them are journeymen though, so yeah - I'd be worried
    Dunbar a journeyman already?
  • cruff
    cruff Posts: 1,518
    DeadCalm wrote:
    Cruff wrote:
    r0bh wrote:
    AquaBlue's current roster, none of whom have transfers announced yet (other than Brammeier who has retired). Can't help but feel worried for their future in the sport :(

    ARCHBOLD Shane
    BLYTHE Adam
    BRAMMEIER Matthew
    CHRISTIAN Mark
    DENIFL Stefan
    DUNBAR Eddie
    DUNNE Conor
    FENN Andrew
    GATE Aaron
    HANSEN Lasse Norman
    KONING Peter
    KREDER Michel
    PEARSON Daniel
    PEDERSEN Casper Phillip
    WARBASSE Larry
    WATSON Calvin

    Think Blythey will get a ride somewhere. The rest of them are journeymen though, so yeah - I'd be worried
    Dunbar a journeyman already?
    Good point - should have said journeyman or unproven. I suppose Blythe also fits the 'journeyman' category anyway. They're all f***ed! :shock:
    Fat chopper. Some racing. Some testing. Some crashing.
    Specialising in Git Daaahns and Cafs. Norvern Munkey/Transplanted Laaandoner.
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    ddraver wrote:
    Nico Roche to forget finishing 14th in a GT and work for another rider...

    Chapter 5467...

    TBF he's been quite open about having shifted to being a domestique ever since he moved to Sky in 2015. I don't think he's spoken of being a GT contender at BMC, even if he is their best placed rider in the Vuelta currently.
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    r0bh wrote:
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    Gweeds wrote:
    I thought Delaney said he had funding for the team for 4 years

    Liz Hatch saying on Twitter that the riders all found out via Twitter.

    Sounds like an absolute shambles.

    A right böllöcks-up. Vanity project turned sour.

    Back in 2016: "Delaney: We're aiming to create the first sustainable cycling team" https://www.independent.ie/sport/other- ... 16350.html

    I remember raising an eyebrow at that statement at the time

    Plenty of us were sceptical when they launched. viewtopic.php?f=40002&t=13074546&p=20036800&hilit=aqua+blue#p20036800

    Shame for the riders though. Hope they find new teams...
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    TakeTheHighRoad wrote:
    Why would people raise an eyebrow at the ambition of creating a self sustaining cycling team?

    The current model is so insecure it doesn't work. Granted, mistakes were made in the application of this project, but I think the ambition should be applauded.

    I would disagree with calling it a vanity project too

    Still hold that opinion after they pulled out of the ToB, effectively ending the team from today, and robbing the riders of a last opportunity to showcase their talent?

    "Four years funding" becomes less than two full seasons. Why? Because the business plan was crap, the website was shoddy, the advertising for the website was poor and the expectation of race invites was based on nothing but ill-conceived optimism and an idea of how things "should" work in an ideal world (even then there are arguments that plenty of teams should rightly be ahead of them in the queue).

    That's a vanity project. Not because a self-sustaining cycling team can't be done, but because it can't be done on wishful thinking and blagging it.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    Also on the AquaBlue topic - according to @Lukascph the web shop was sold off:
    https://twitter.com/lukascph/status/1034452372376965120
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,271
    Gweeds wrote:
    mamil314 wrote:

    Did they bring a C team into a B team fight

    I watched C-teams glitter in the dark......
    :D
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,719
    edited September 2018
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    Also on the AquaBlue topic - according to @Lukascph the web shop was sold off:
    https://twitter.com/lukascph/status/1034452372376965120

    The Martin Shkreli of cycling it seems...

    Unfortunately likely without the happy ending.

    Having got around to listening to the CP interview, I must retract this.

    Sounds like Nuyens played him like a violin and 3T really didnt step up to the plate, I can slightly see why he just didnt see any realistic way of continuing.
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • rozzer32
    rozzer32 Posts: 3,923
    If I was Adam Blythe I'd be looking at trying to get on the corendon circus team. If I remember correctly aren't they looking to step up to Pro Conti? Plus with Van der Poel on the team they would no doubt get some invites to the classics which I think Adam would be happy with.
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  • awavey
    awavey Posts: 2,368
    awavey wrote:
    Kirsten Wild has joined WNT-Rotor for 2019 & 2020 https://www.wnt-rotor-pro-cycling.com/u ... 4199bb9358

    as has Lisa Brennauer now, whilst Lucy Garner is off to Hitec Products, and Megan Guarnier is retiring
  • ju5t1n
    ju5t1n Posts: 2,028
    YorkshireRaw wrote:
    my understanding of the Aqua Blue site was that it was to act as a portal for other retailers / brand manufacturers, rather than as a retailer in itself - so they wouldn't buy and sell stock as such, merely act as a virtual 'shop window' and presumably take a small fee per transaction. So in effect an Amazon marketplace type set-up - I could have mi-understood this of course, which I suppose is part of the problem - it was never very clear what 'Aqua Blue' was.
    Would need to be doing a huge amount of transactions to fund the € multi million required for a PCT or even more for a WT team. You can applaud the ambition but seriously question the business plan.

    You're right on the concept. But I think they got the technology wrong. I put my brand on there (Shutt Velo Rapide), Le Col did too, and others. It was a bit of an effort. The technology is pretty clunky. Hours of work for little or no return. It was a good idea, badly executed.
  • ju5t1n
    ju5t1n Posts: 2,028
    DeadCalm wrote:
    Cruff wrote:
    r0bh wrote:
    AquaBlue's current roster, none of whom have transfers announced yet (other than Brammeier who has retired). Can't help but feel worried for their future in the sport :(

    ARCHBOLD Shane
    BLYTHE Adam
    BRAMMEIER Matthew
    CHRISTIAN Mark
    DENIFL Stefan
    DUNBAR Eddie
    DUNNE Conor
    FENN Andrew
    GATE Aaron
    HANSEN Lasse Norman
    KONING Peter
    KREDER Michel
    PEARSON Daniel
    PEDERSEN Casper Phillip
    WARBASSE Larry
    WATSON Calvin

    Think Blythey will get a ride somewhere. The rest of them are journeymen though, so yeah - I'd be worried
    Dunbar a journeyman already?

    And Dan Pearson? FFS!
  • cruff
    cruff Posts: 1,518
    ju5t1n wrote:
    DeadCalm wrote:
    Cruff wrote:
    r0bh wrote:
    AquaBlue's current roster, none of whom have transfers announced yet (other than Brammeier who has retired). Can't help but feel worried for their future in the sport :(

    ARCHBOLD Shane
    BLYTHE Adam
    BRAMMEIER Matthew
    CHRISTIAN Mark
    DENIFL Stefan
    DUNBAR Eddie
    DUNNE Conor
    FENN Andrew
    GATE Aaron
    HANSEN Lasse Norman
    KONING Peter
    KREDER Michel
    PEARSON Daniel
    PEDERSEN Casper Phillip
    WARBASSE Larry
    WATSON Calvin

    Think Blythey will get a ride somewhere. The rest of them are journeymen though, so yeah - I'd be worried
    Dunbar a journeyman already?

    And Dan Pearson? FFS!
    I refer the honourable gentleman to my previous comment highlighting the fact I should have said 'Journeymen or Unproven' :D
    Fat chopper. Some racing. Some testing. Some crashing.
    Specialising in Git Daaahns and Cafs. Norvern Munkey/Transplanted Laaandoner.
  • ShutupJens
    ShutupJens Posts: 1,373
    Cruff wrote:
    ju5t1n wrote:
    DeadCalm wrote:
    Cruff wrote:
    r0bh wrote:
    AquaBlue's current roster, none of whom have transfers announced yet (other than Brammeier who has retired). Can't help but feel worried for their future in the sport :(

    ARCHBOLD Shane
    BLYTHE Adam
    BRAMMEIER Matthew
    CHRISTIAN Mark
    DENIFL Stefan
    DUNBAR Eddie
    DUNNE Conor
    FENN Andrew
    GATE Aaron
    HANSEN Lasse Norman
    KONING Peter
    KREDER Michel
    PEARSON Daniel
    PEDERSEN Casper Phillip
    WARBASSE Larry
    WATSON Calvin

    Think Blythey will get a ride somewhere. The rest of them are journeymen though, so yeah - I'd be worried
    Dunbar a journeyman already?

    And Dan Pearson? FFS!
    I refer the honourable gentleman to my previous comment highlighting the fact I should have said 'Journeymen or Unproven' :D

    Literally had to google Dan Pearson.. showed promise early on but has graduated from u23 without any wins and one podium in a minor race sounds like a journeyman to me - at least Dunbar is still u23 and has some decent results
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,823
    INRNG's say on Aqua Blue

    http://inrng.com/2018/08/aqua-blues/
  • rozzer32
    rozzer32 Posts: 3,923
    Wout Van Aert not happy at all with the merge with Roompot. He’s already signed with lotto jumbo for 2020 but he wants out of his 2019 contract so he could join sooner.
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  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,719
    Aqua Blue were doing the Tour of Britain retail... the shop link has now been removed from the races website.
    http://fendrieneu.home.blog
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    rozzer32 wrote:
    Wout Van Aert not happy at all with the merge with Roompot. He’s already signed with lotto jumbo for 2020 but he wants out of his 2019 contract so he could join sooner.

    Yeah, well... If I was him I'd just want to head to Jumbo too. That AquaBlue article on CN suggested that he's looking to get out of his contract next year... that's one factor that killed the Sniper/AquaBlue merger.
  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,798
    Apaz, the Aqua Blue boss will make his case for the Defence on the Cycling Podcast this evening (Friday)
    2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner
  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/cyclingt ... 6tSKezGck/

    Multiple fingers being pointed. 3T get a bit of a kicking.
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Gweeds wrote:
    http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/cyclingtipsblog/TJog/~3/PB6tSKezGck/

    Multiple fingers being pointed. 3T get a bit of a kicking.
    Interesting that those involved in the team don't seem to be blaming Delaney.

    Also interesting story about Williams-Crelans there, if true. Makes it sound like they screwed Aqua Blue over.

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