2019 Transfers - Rumours and Confirmations
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As someone who came in talking about creating a truly sustainable team that not is subject to the whims of the owner, I have little sympathy for Delaney for quitting when the going gets tough.
The 3T deal for clearly sub-optimal bikes, having no back up plan for the negotiations with Sniper, the inability to understand how the wild card system works all points to pretty poor strategic management.0 -
dish_dash wrote:As someone who came in talking about creating a truly sustainable team that not is subject to the whims of the owner, I have little sympathy for Delaney for quitting when the going gets tough.
The 3T deal for clearly sub-optimal bikes, having no back up plan for the negotiations with Sniper, the inability to understand how the wild card system works all points to pretty poor strategic management.
All that.
I think it's part of the entrepreneur/start-up mindset to think that hard work and a bit of optimism will win out in the end. I see it at work (I have a tech role) where I often get fed up playing the "computer says no" role in the face of overbearing attitudes of "there are no problems, just challenges". It's an attitude that ends up taking short cuts, creating temporary solutions with high risk of failure. The inability to accurately assess risk and mitigate it can get stuff done quickly if you're lucky, but what you build might fall apart at any moment. It's also often accompanied by a bit of a cult of leadership: managers, owners, CEOs who can "get stuff done", or worse "disrupt". Far too many leaders who have a basic starting point of "how hard can it be?" in the face of experienced people who know what the fundamentals are. I think that's probably in play at Aqua Blue as well.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
Ha. You've just provided a succinct explanation of why I am now in Thailand rather than the City.No tA Doctor wrote:dish_dash wrote:As someone who came in talking about creating a truly sustainable team that not is subject to the whims of the owner, I have little sympathy for Delaney for quitting when the going gets tough.
The 3T deal for clearly sub-optimal bikes, having no back up plan for the negotiations with Sniper, the inability to understand how the wild card system works all points to pretty poor strategic management.
All that.
I think it's part of the entrepreneur/start-up mindset to think that hard work and a bit of optimism will win out in the end. I see it at work (I have a tech role) where I often get fed up playing the "computer says no" role in the face of overbearing attitudes of "there are no problems, just challenges". It's an attitude that ends up taking short cuts, creating temporary solutions with high risk of failure. The inability to accurately assess risk and mitigate it can get stuff done quickly if you're lucky, but what you build might fall apart at any moment. It's also often accompanied by a bit of a cult of leadership: managers, owners, CEOs who can "get stuff done", or worse "disrupt". Far too many leaders who have a basic starting point of "how hard can it be?" in the face of experienced people who know what the fundamentals are. I think that's probably in play at Aqua Blue as well.0 -
DeadCalm wrote:
Ha. You've just provided a succinct explanation of why I am now in Thailand rather than the City.No tA Doctor wrote:dish_dash wrote:As someone who came in talking about creating a truly sustainable team that not is subject to the whims of the owner, I have little sympathy for Delaney for quitting when the going gets tough.
The 3T deal for clearly sub-optimal bikes, having no back up plan for the negotiations with Sniper, the inability to understand how the wild card system works all points to pretty poor strategic management.
All that.
I think it's part of the entrepreneur/start-up mindset to think that hard work and a bit of optimism will win out in the end. I see it at work (I have a tech role) where I often get fed up playing the "computer says no" role in the face of overbearing attitudes of "there are no problems, just challenges". It's an attitude that ends up taking short cuts, creating temporary solutions with high risk of failure. The inability to accurately assess risk and mitigate it can get stuff done quickly if you're lucky, but what you build might fall apart at any moment. It's also often accompanied by a bit of a cult of leadership: managers, owners, CEOs who can "get stuff done", or worse "disrupt". Far too many leaders who have a basic starting point of "how hard can it be?" in the face of experienced people who know what the fundamentals are. I think that's probably in play at Aqua Blue as well.
You make it sound like you were stranded when a global project collapsed while you were on location.
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just seen this on twitter
Sven Nys has revealed that Team Sky is involved in the acquisition of Tom Pidcock. "We were not able to give him what was offered in Great Britain. In the winter he has his own crossteam. Team Sky will pick a team for him for his road season."0 -
Not surprising with Pidcock and Team Sky. The links are there with team wiggins.***** Pro Tour Pundit Champion 2020, 2018, 2017 & 2011 *****0
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I'm trying to work out what Sven means though. Get's his own cross team?
Does that mean he'ss be riding in Sky kit in Winter but another in Summer.
I mean a "Cross team" is a rider and a mechanic...usually a family member.We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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ddraver wrote:I'm trying to work out what Sven means though. Get's his own cross team?
Does that mean he'ss be riding in Sky kit in Winter but another in Summer.
I mean a "Cross team" is a rider and a mechanic...usually a family member.
A new British sponsored professional cross team is being set up with TP as leader. The second part probably means what it says. For example, Trek put their prospects into development teams in Belgium and Italy. The best of those eventually get a stagiere ride and an odd one may subsequently move to the WT team. If Sky do not consider TP is mature enough to move to such a strong WT team at this point in time (significantly different level to the 2 year junior age band and race programme where he had most of his success), they can sort him out with a Continental team (3rd Division). Sven may mean Wiggins, where he is now, or a different team.0 -
lyn1 wrote:ddraver wrote:I'm trying to work out what Sven means though. Get's his own cross team?
Does that mean he'ss be riding in Sky kit in Winter but another in Summer.
I mean a "Cross team" is a rider and a mechanic...usually a family member.
A new British sponsored professional cross team is being set up with TP as leader. The second part probably means what it says. For example, Trek put their prospects into development teams in Belgium and Italy. The best of those eventually get a stagiere ride and an odd one may subsequently move to the WT team. If Sky do not consider TP is mature enough to move to such a strong WT team at this point in time (significantly different level to the 2 year junior age band and race programme where he had most of his success), they can sort him out with a Continental team (3rd Division). Sven may mean Wiggins, where he is now, or a different team.
Here's the press release on the CX team: http://trinitysportsmanagement.com/cross/0 -
On the Blythe 3T issue - he’s previously stated on Twitter that those bikes lead to too many mechanicals. But the point he seemed to be making in the Eurosport video was that the gear selection/ratios are ineffective for racing.
CX and MTB have 1x chainrings (at the ratios that work for them), and mechanicals don’t get cited as an issue.
So how do the 3T bikes lead to more mechanicals?0 -
lyn1 wrote:ddraver wrote:I'm trying to work out what Sven means though. Get's his own cross team?
Does that mean he'ss be riding in Sky kit in Winter but another in Summer.
I mean a "Cross team" is a rider and a mechanic...usually a family member.
A new British sponsored professional cross team is being set up with TP as leader. The second part probably means what it says. For example, Trek put their prospects into development teams in Belgium and Italy. The best of those eventually get a stagiere ride and an odd one may subsequently move to the WT team. If Sky do not consider TP is mature enough to move to such a strong WT team at this point in time (significantly different level to the 2 year junior age band and race programme where he had most of his success), they can sort him out with a Continental team (3rd Division). Sven may mean Wiggins, where he is now, or a different team.
Thanks!
Essentially Sky is bankrolling Trinity Sports whaassit..?We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Ed-tron wrote:On the Blythe 3T issue - he’s previously stated on Twitter that those bikes lead to too many mechanicals. But the point he seemed to be making in the Eurosport video was that the gear selection/ratios are ineffective for racing.
CX and MTB have 1x chainrings (at the ratios that work for them), and mechanicals don’t get cited as an issue.
So how do the 3T bikes lead to more mechanicals?
Are mechanicals in CX and MTB the same as in road racing? I mean, there's far less slipstreaming a peloton at 40-60kph in both of those - drop your chain and you have to chase, but in road there are times when if you drop your chain you won't see the peloton until the next day.
There's also the fact that road races last a lot longer (and potentially require a wider spread of gearing?), so there's a load more time to have a mech.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
No tA Doctor wrote:Ed-tron wrote:On the Blythe 3T issue - he’s previously stated on Twitter that those bikes lead to too many mechanicals. But the point he seemed to be making in the Eurosport video was that the gear selection/ratios are ineffective for racing.
CX and MTB have 1x chainrings (at the ratios that work for them), and mechanicals don’t get cited as an issue.
So how do the 3T bikes lead to more mechanicals?
Are mechanicals in CX and MTB the same as in road racing? I mean, there's far less slipstreaming a peloton at 40-60kph in both of those - drop your chain and you have to chase, but in road there are times when if you drop your chain you won't see the peloton until the next day.
There's also the fact that road races last a lot longer (and potentially require a wider spread of gearing?), so there's a load more time to have a mech.
The consensus appears to be two main issues. The seatpost keep cracking, and the freehub (3T's own) kept jamming, which caused the chain drop (so not a 1x issue, but an issue exacerbated by 1x as there's no FD to act as a chain keeper).0 -
The story seems to be that the dropped chains were a problem with the freehub...which is clearly nothing to do with the frame (but what is less clear is who made the freehub...)
I feel like 3T have been slightly hard done by here, but at the same time, think that 1x was always probably 1 or 2 cassette speeds away from ready for road racing...We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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ddraver wrote:The story seems to be that the dropped chains were a problem with the freehub...which is clearly nothing to do with the frame (but what is less clear is who made the freehub...)
I feel like 3T have been slightly hard done by here, but at the same time, think that 1x was always probably 1 or 2 cassette speeds away from ready for road racing...
3T were the wheel suppliers to Aqua Blue too.0 -
Most MTB rear mechs are clutched, so keep the chain under tension more than a standard rear mech. In CX, most riders at the top level are changing their bikes frequently, especially in muddy conditions when the chances of dropping a chain are increased. They also tend to use chain catchers.Ed-tron wrote:CX and MTB have 1x chainrings (at the ratios that work for them), and mechanicals don’t get cited as an issue.0 -
andyp wrote:ddraver wrote:The story seems to be that the dropped chains were a problem with the freehub...which is clearly nothing to do with the frame (but what is less clear is who made the freehub...)
I feel like 3T have been slightly hard done by here, but at the same time, think that 1x was always probably 1 or 2 cassette speeds away from ready for road racing...
3T were the wheel suppliers to Aqua Blue too.
I wondered if that were the case. However, it goes without saying that thats not a problem with 1x. Somewhat puts 3T back on the hook tho...We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Danish conti team Riwal CeramicSpeed will be pro-conti next season. They'll be "starting small" and not expecting big race invites, but have an eye on a possible Danish TdF start in 2021. Riis's Waoo team also trying to make the step up but doesn't have the extra funding in place yet. Danish article : http://sport.tv2.dk/cykling/2018-09-03- ... r-hos-riisWarning No formatter is installed for the format0
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BMCCCCCCCC really don't want any climbers on the squad do they?
Best be moving GVA on next with his performances at the tour.0 -
De Gendt to Wanty but not that one Aime. Also De Decker as stagiarre0
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Have we had Gasparotto to Dimension Data yet?
Valgren, Kreuziger and Gasparotto is a decent line up for Ardennes.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
Tom Pidcock wants to go to Sky. Not put off by any of the negative press, largely down to jealousy apparently, stated they're the best team and he definitely wants to ride for a british set up0
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Add in their exciting neo-pro, Stefan de Bod even if it is only for the great name.No tA Doctor wrote:Have we had Gasparotto to Dimension Data yet?
Valgren, Kreuziger and Gasparotto is a decent line up for Ardennes.0 -
Cruff wrote:r0bh wrote:AquaBlue's current roster, none of whom have transfers announced yet (other than Brammeier who has retired). Can't help but feel worried for their future in the sport
ARCHBOLD Shane
BLYTHE Adam
BRAMMEIER Matthew
CHRISTIAN Mark
DENIFL Stefan
DUNBAR Eddie
DUNNE Conor
FENN Andrew
GATE Aaron
HANSEN Lasse Norman
KONING Peter
KREDER Michel
PEARSON Daniel
PEDERSEN Casper Phillip
WARBASSE Larry
WATSON Calvin
Think Blythey will get a ride somewhere. The rest of them are journeymen though, so yeah - I'd be worried
Eddie Dunbar will be snapped up by someone for sure.
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ddraver wrote:No tA Doctor wrote:Also on the AquaBlue topic - according to @Lukascph the web shop was sold off:
https://twitter.com/lukascph/status/1034452372376965120
The Martin Shkreli of cycling it seems...
Unfortunately likely without the happy ending.
Having got around to listening to the CP interview, I must retract this.
Sounds like Nuyens played him like a violin and 3T really didnt step up to the plate, I can slightly see why he just didnt see any realistic way of continuing.
Ballsed up quoting myself....We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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