Froome KA BOOOM

Vino'sGhost

Its a long way to go in the Giro, I still think that Froome might have it in him but i doubt completely that he can win the tour if he finishes the Giro near the top.

The end is nigh and whilst i hold no ill will for Chris I do enjoy watching the greats crumble..

inseine

Vino'sGhost wrote:

Its a long way to go in the Giro, I still think that Froome might have it in him but i doubt completely that he can win the tour if he finishes the Giro near the top.

The end is nigh and whilst i hold no ill will for Chris I do enjoy watching the greats crumble..

Is your ill will to other people really worth a new thread?

slim_boy_fat

Seek help.

Vino'sGhost

inseine wrote:

Vino'sGhost wrote:

Its a long way to go in the Giro, I still think that Froome might have it in him but i doubt completely that he can win the tour if he finishes the Giro near the top.

The end is nigh and whilst i hold no ill will for Chris I do enjoy watching the greats crumble..

Is your ill will to other people really worth a new thread?

Its pretty clear i said i have no ill will for chris you numptie.

blazing_saddles

Vino'sGhost wrote:

inseine wrote:

Vino'sGhost wrote:

Its a long way to go in the Giro, I still think that Froome might have it in him but i doubt completely that he can win the tour if he finishes the Giro near the top.

The end is nigh and whilst i hold no ill will for Chris I do enjoy watching the greats crumble..

Is your ill will to other people really worth a new thread?

Its pretty clear i said i have no ill will for chris you numptie.

Of course you did.

But check your pants aren't on fire, just in case.

inseine

Seems a bit like 'I'm not a racist but...'
But I'm just a numpty so I'm probably wrong

Vino'sGhost

inseine wrote:

Seems a bit like 'I'm not a racist but...'
But I'm just a numpty so I'm probably wrong

Well I’m feeling generous so I’ll try and explain it but I don’t suppose you will get it.


I beat no Ill will to Chris. This means I’m not wishing him to fail. With it so far?

I enjoy watching the changing of the guard, champions falling, the eternal sporting circle of life. I find it fascinating.

Both these things can exist side by side.

I hadn’t thought that was too much of a difficult thing to grasp but as ever the binary devotion is to the fore in here.

inseine

Vino'sGhost wrote:

inseine wrote:

Seems a bit like 'I'm not a racist but...'
But I'm just a numpty so I'm probably wrong

Well I’m feeling generous so I’ll try and explain it but I don’t suppose you will get it.


I beat no Ill will to Chris. This means I’m not wishing him to fail. With it so far?

much of a difficult thing to grasp but as ever the binary devotion is to the fore in here.

inseine

There's no need for insults or a patronizing tone, it's just a cycling forum. It was a great stage today, the return of the nicest man in cycling after a long lean spell and possibly glimpses of britains next GT winner. Froome wasn't a huge part of the story

Vino'sGhost

inseine wrote:

There's no need for insults or a patronizing tone, it's just a cycling forum. It was a great stage today, the return of the nicest man in cycling after a long lean spell and possibly glimpses of britains next GT winner. Froome wasn't a huge part of the story

You’d do well to head your own advice then.

And yes it was a great stage and one that led me to my comment at the top of the thread.

Bo Duke

What a silly thread.....

bigmat

There's an interesting thread in here somewhere. Seems to me like Froome's time is running out as much due to upcoming talent as due to his own decline. Yates looked awesome yesterday and Bernal (in Froome's own team no less) could be the real deal very soon. Wouldn't be surprised if its all over for the Froome / Nibali / Quintana generation already, certainly would be surprised to see Froome winning GTs beyond this year.

slim_boy_fat

BigMat wrote:

There's an interesting thread in here somewhere. Seems to me like Froome's time is running out as much due to upcoming talent as due to his own decline. Yates looked awesome yesterday and Bernal (in Froome's own team no less) could be the real deal very soon. Wouldn't be surprised if its all over for the Froome / Nibali / Quintana generation already, certainly would be surprised to see Froome winning GTs beyond this year.

You could be right. Giro has been thrown wide open by yesterdays stage.

Thread might have received a better response if the tone had been 'it's great to see new riders coming through' rather than 'I enjoy watching greats crumble'. But then again that's no real surprise when you consider the thread starter.

kingstongraham

Vino'sGhost wrote:

i hold no ill will for Chris

jimmythecuckoo

Post in this thread now before it gets locked down.

blazing_saddles

BigMat wrote:

There's an interesting thread in here somewhere. Seems to me like Froome's time is running out as much due to upcoming talent as due to his own decline. Yates looked awesome yesterday and Bernal (in Froome's own team no less) could be the real deal very soon. Wouldn't be surprised if its all over for the Froome / Nibali / Quintana generation already, certainly would be surprised to see Froome winning GTs beyond this year.

I think you can probably add Valverde to that list of potential GT has beens.
After his usually stellar Spanish Spring, he came to the Ardennes, where he showed the first signs that the wheels might be about to fall off.
I still see Froome, Nibali and Quintana as three of the Tour's usual suspects, though.
The Giro is the testing ground for future GT hierarchy. Hard to see anybody new featuring on the Tour podium, beyond Landa.

inseine

I guess we'll have to wait and see. Froome could still win a third GT in a row, even a Fourth which would be a record equaling number of Tours.
Yates needed to step up and so far he's doing a great job

sloppyschleckonds

Vino'sGhost wrote:

I hadn’t thought that was too much of a difficult thing to grasp but as ever the binary devotion is to the fore in here.

Vino'sGhost

Blazing Saddles wrote:

BigMat wrote:

There's an interesting thread in here somewhere. Seems to me like Froome's time is running out as much due to upcoming talent as due to his own decline. Yates looked awesome yesterday and Bernal (in Froome's own team no less) could be the real deal very soon. Wouldn't be surprised if its all over for the Froome / Nibali / Quintana generation already, certainly would be surprised to see Froome winning GTs beyond this year.

I think you can probably add Valverde to that list of potential GT has beens.
After his usually stellar Spanish Spring, he came to the Ardennes, where he showed the first signs that the wheels might be about to fall off.
I still see Froome, Nibali and Quintana as three of the Tour's usual suspects, though.
The Giro is the testing ground for future GT hierarchy. Hard to see anybody new featuring on the Tour podium, beyond Landa.

Definitely valverde burning bright at what must be the end and def agree about Yates and contempories moving to the fore! Exciting times ahead I hope.

Dorset_Boy

The Yates boys are 25 aren't they? So still not at their GT peak.
There seems to be a good crop of potential GT contenders maturing over the next few years.

bigmat

Exciting times. Yes, Valverde can be added to the list if you like, although he was never quite a GC rider really. Could be one last hurrah at this year's worlds for him or Nibali.

Matthewfalle

Slim Boy Fat wrote:

Seek help.

for what, exactly?

sherer

Froome has won the last two GTs and still has a chance at this one. How can you write him off as if he's career is over based on a few stages.. with a few off field problems it's understandable he might not be in top form for the Giro, plus he's never had to train to be ready for a GT in May so maybe didn't quite get it right this time

Bumo_b

3 week tour, so will be interesting to see those riders yesterday and how they last in week 3. I doubt CF is at his 100% physical fitness compared to his earlier years, but do believe any drop off can be counteracted by racing maturity for a while.

blazing_saddles

Marc Soler is perhaps the other who could shine at the Tour. But with Landa, Piti and old Stone Face, he'll be wasted fetching water.
You know, the sort of thing Sky get slammed for doing with their big name domestiques.

DeVlaeminck

If Yates can win this Giro would it be a surprise if Sky make him an offer he can't refuse for next year. Froome gets ditched due to form and reputation using zero tolerance as an excuse. Yesterday could be the beginning of the new era. Or it may not be...

andyp

DeVlaeminck wrote:

If Yates can win this Giro would it be a surprise if Sky make him an offer he can't refuse for next year. Froome gets ditched due to form and reputation using zero tolerance as an excuse. Yesterday could be the beginning of the new era. Or it may not be...

Er, how does Yates fit into that 'zero tolerance' excuse exactly?

RichN95.

andyp wrote:

DeVlaeminck wrote:

If Yates can win this Giro would it be a surprise if Sky make him an offer he can't refuse for next year. Froome gets ditched due to form and reputation using zero tolerance as an excuse. Yesterday could be the beginning of the new era. Or it may not be...

Er, how does Yates fit into that 'zero tolerance' excuse exactly?

They can argue that it was a mistake with a drug he had a history of taking rather than doping (the authorities said as much) - something they will do with Froome I would expect

However, the Yateses seem happy at Mitchelton. Bernal is Sky's future.

fenix

One thing any of us should know is that you can't write off someone like Froome after not even the first week of a Grand Tour.
Great ride by Yates - fingers crossed he can keep it up.

topper_harley

Loving the so called fans telling us that froome is declining, make no mistake if froome was to target one grand tour a year then he’d be in full killer break the internet mode

RichN95.

Topper harley wrote:

Loving the so called fans telling us that froome is declining, make no mistake if froome was to target one grand tour a year then he’d be in full killer break the internet mode

Everyone declines at some point. I don't think he'll ever be as good as 2013 again.