TdF 2017: Stage 9 Nantua - Chambéry 181.5KM *Spoilers*

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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    ddraver wrote:
    Trouble with blaming the route is that Richie is rather good at falling off by himself as it is...

    Does he fall off more than other riders?
    Correlation is not causation.
  • amrushton
    amrushton Posts: 1,312
    So I presume that Quintana did nothing then (or couldn't)
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    ddraver wrote:
    r0bh wrote:
    Contador has dropped 2 minutes already.

    What will the excuse be today..? Allergies again?
    From CN: "Contador, it transpires, received a heavy blow to the knee in the same crash that saw Thomas abandon. The Spaniard also hit the deck when Nairo Quintana bumped into him on the Grand Colombier."
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,694
    Above The Cows wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    Trouble with blaming the route is that Richie is rather good at falling off by himself as it is...

    Does he fall off more than other riders?

    Gerraint and he share a notable habit of touching ground
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • type:epyt
    type:epyt Posts: 766
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    As uran crossed the line, he had 31km to go.

    Wow, that's a wide line!

    Seriously though, I started watching at pretty much that point. Demare may as well have saved the pain and got in a car hours ago.

    You missed the World's Prettiest Road™ then.

    prettyroadtdf.png

    So did British Eurosport as they went to the break when they were on that road (I think) …
    Life is unfair, kill yourself or get over it.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    adr82 wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    As uran crossed the line, he had 31km to go.

    Wow, that's a wide line!

    Seriously though, I started watching at pretty much that point. Demare may as well have saved the pain and got in a car hours ago.

    You missed the World's Prettiest Road™ then.

    prettyroadtdf.png
    If the local tourist board aren't paying you, they should be :lol:

    It is a lovely part of the world to ride, with killer gradients, views of Mont Blanc, the WPR™, squeaky bum and shaky limb inducing descents, good wine, excellent steaks and a nice beach in Aix-Les-Bains where you can rest your tired legs and enjoy the warm, calm waters of the Lac du Bourget.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,331
    DAvid Millar has just put something up on Periscope showing a group of riders coming across the line.

    "It's now what, 32, 33 minutes? We think the delay is set at about 37 minutes, and there are groups of riders all over the road, the poor bastards."

    https://www.pscp.tv/millarmind/1lPKqyMLZjQKb
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  • dolan_driver
    dolan_driver Posts: 831
    No gears, no problem. Uran passes into Tour legend. Delighted for Rigo. He has under-performed for quite a while now but it looks like his natural talent has re-emerged. Sad for Barguiel but his time will come.

    Good that Porte is not in any kind of serious danger now (apparently). Speedy recovery to him.

    Dan Martin is lucky to be still in the race but managed to pull himself back into some kind of contention.

    I dislike Aru even more now.

    DD.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,878
    ddraver wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    Trouble with blaming the route is that Richie is rather good at falling off by himself as it is...

    Does he fall off more than other riders?

    Gerraint and he share a notable habit of touching ground

    It did look like he lost concentration.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    ddraver wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    Trouble with blaming the route is that Richie is rather good at falling off by himself as it is...

    Does he fall off more than other riders?

    Gerraint and he share a notable habit of touching ground

    Geraint yes, Richie not as much I would say, the Olympic Road Race, that Giro but when else? That Tour stage last year when loads of people fell off (Froome, Thomas etc) on the last mountain stage in the wet. During the Tour in 2012 he fell off when grabbing his musette but when else has he fallen off, he isn't as 'unlucky' as Geraint by any means IMO and many of G's crashes have been just bad luck, like his Bardet telephone pole one and the Giro moto crash.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • amrushton
    amrushton Posts: 1,312
    Aru or 'Gonzo' as he may well be known after that earlier photo post.
  • imatfaal
    imatfaal Posts: 2,716
    FDJ tweeting

    it's over. Arnaud Demare, Mickaël Delage, Ignatas Konovalovas and Jacopo Guarnieri never make it on time
  • ShutupJens
    ShutupJens Posts: 1,373
    imatfaal wrote:
    FDJ tweeting

    it's over. Arnaud Demare, Mickaël Delage, Ignatas Konovalovas and Jacopo Guarnieri never make it on time

    As sad as it is to see another sprinter leave the tour, we all could have told them that yesterday. The tactic of drifting off straight from the flag drop in hindsight doesn't look like a brilliant one
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,252
    Trentin also reported outside the time cut.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    ASO and other organisers need to get commitment from local authorities to NOT resurface roads just before the race. It had to be a factor.

    All that being said, 150+ other riders managed to not crash. Was the descent too dangerous?
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,331
    I think (wasn't paying especially close attention) Dan Martin said that Porte's rear wheel locked up when he braked because of the road being damp/slippery. Not sure it's fair to categorise that as a lack of attention - could probably have caught anyone out.
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  • ShutupJens
    ShutupJens Posts: 1,373
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    ASO and other organisers need to get commitment from local authorities to NOT resurface roads just before the race. It had to be a factor.

    All that being said, 150+ other riders managed to not crash. Was the descent too dangerous?

    Probably not no. The comparisons to the giro are a bit off given they sent the finish round almost literally an ice rink the other year
  • ben@31
    ben@31 Posts: 2,327
    RichA wrote:
    Any Demare update?

    He's just started the second to last hill on stage 8.
    "The Prince of Wales is now the King of France" - Calton Kirby
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,252
    Renshaw and Sagan also both outside time limit.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,436
    Porte's crash was a strange one; when he left the tarmac on the left he didn't just drift off the correct line, his bike was pointing way way to the left of where it should have been.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    ASO and other organisers need to get commitment from local authorities to NOT resurface roads just before the race. It had to be a factor.

    All that being said, 150+ other riders managed to not crash. Was the descent too dangerous?

    Inrng saying on Twitter they did a bad job of the resurfacing, with uneven 'corrugated' surface in places.

    Nieve crashed, we don't know if anyone else crashed, it doesn't mean they didn't, I doubt people further back were pushing so hard with the exception of the autobus.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,878
    underlayunderlay wrote:
    I think (wasn't paying especially close attention) Dan Martin said that Porte's rear wheel locked up when he braked because of the road being damp/slippery. Not sure it's fair to categorise that as a lack of attention - could probably have caught anyone out.

    I'd say that is a lapse in concentration. Braking on wet patch whilst riding unnecessarily close to the edge of the road.
  • imatfaal
    imatfaal Posts: 2,716
    Official withdrawals so far (and hopefully all the withdrawals)

    161 GESINK Robert TLJ withdrawal
    67 MORI Manuele UAD withdrawal
    41 PORTE Richie BMC withdrawal
    9 THOMAS Geraint SKY withdrawal
  • ben@31
    ben@31 Posts: 2,327
    adr82 wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    As uran crossed the line, he had 31km to go.

    Wow, that's a wide line!

    Seriously though, I started watching at pretty much that point. Demare may as well have saved the pain and got in a car hours ago.

    You missed the World's Prettiest Road™ then.

    prettyroadtdf.png
    If the local tourist board aren't paying you, they should be :lol:

    The Highway Maintenance must have ran out of Pretty Road by the time they got to Chambéry. The finish looked like a pretty grim industrial park. Good job the race action kept my attention.
    "The Prince of Wales is now the King of France" - Calton Kirby
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,331
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    ASO and other organisers need to get commitment from local authorities to NOT resurface roads just before the race. It had to be a factor.

    All that being said, 150+ other riders managed to not crash. Was the descent too dangerous?

    Inrng saying on Twitter they did a bad job of the resurfacing, with uneven 'corrugated' surface in places.

    Nieve crashed, we don't know if anyone else crashed, it doesn't mean they didn't, I doubt people further back were pushing so hard with the exception of the autobus.

    Trentin rolled in hors delai on his own, others were coming in as small groups on Millar's clip. Wouldn't be surprised to learn an autobus never formed. People were shelled with some ferocity today (to the point where I wonder if the time cuts aren't a bit harsh on days like this).
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    ddraver wrote:
    @Mavic
    @UranRigoberto had a bent hanger + couldn't shift accurately. He asked our mechanic to put it in the 11t and we obliged. Congrats Rigo!

    #Legend

    OMG *cyclegasm*
    _
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    LRP apparently has concussion but nothing broken, from reports on Twitter.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    underlayunderlay wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    ASO and other organisers need to get commitment from local authorities to NOT resurface roads just before the race. It had to be a factor.

    All that being said, 150+ other riders managed to not crash. Was the descent too dangerous?

    Inrng saying on Twitter they did a bad job of the resurfacing, with uneven 'corrugated' surface in places.

    Nieve crashed, we don't know if anyone else crashed, it doesn't mean they didn't, I doubt people further back were pushing so hard with the exception of the autobus.

    Trentin rolled in hors delai on his own, others were coming in as small groups on Millar's clip. Wouldn't be surprised to learn an autobus never formed. People were shelled with some ferocity today (to the point where I wonder if the time cuts aren't a bit harsh on days like this).

    No fun otherwise.

    It's a race not a 3 week cycling holiday with a few prizes to dish out.
    _
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    I have no beef with time cuts. This seems to be a brutal year I agree but maybe there's a bug going around.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    And Juraj Sagan? Is anyone surprised?

    shrug-gif-114.gif
    Correlation is not causation.

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