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RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 25,479
edited July 2017 in Pro race
Bora are the first to name their team and my man Juraj makes his debut

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  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 25,479
    Katusha

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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 57,281 Lives Here
    Zabel? Interesting.
  • sherersherer Posts: 2,450
    Is Martin in the right jersey there ? I thought the TT one had a stopwatch logo going through the bands to donate it was the TT World Champ
  • lagunalaguna Posts: 22
    Since the 2016 Cyclo-cross Worlds, the 'classic' jersey without symbols (previously reserved for the road race and paracycling road race) was assigned to all disciplines
  • sherersherer Posts: 2,450
    laguna wrote:
    Since the 2016 Cyclo-cross Worlds, the 'classic' jersey without symbols (previously reserved for the road race and paracycling road race) was assigned to all disciplines

    I wasn't aware of that, must have not noticed it until now.
  • DeVlaeminckDeVlaeminck Posts: 7,295
    Katusha are building their Tour round Kristoff? I haven't been following the sport as closely recently do they have a GC man in there ?
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  • imatfaalimatfaal Posts: 2,716
    Katusha are building their Tour round Kristoff? I haven't been following the sport as closely recently do they have a GC man in there ?

    No Spilak or Zakharin? Even Taaramae was looking pretty good. Seems a strange team - Tony Martin hasn't been winning GT Time Trials recently but he and Kristoff seem to be the focus; maybe the thinking is that no GC means Martin can really compete on TTs and rest of time Kristoff goes for sprint stages
  • salsiccia1salsiccia1 Posts: 3,715
    sherer wrote:
    laguna wrote:
    Since the 2016 Cyclo-cross Worlds, the 'classic' jersey without symbols (previously reserved for the road race and paracycling road race) was assigned to all disciplines

    I wasn't aware of that, must have not noticed it until now.

    Me neither. Cheers, laguna.

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  • salsiccia1salsiccia1 Posts: 3,715
    imatfaal wrote:
    Katusha are building their Tour round Kristoff? I haven't been following the sport as closely recently do they have a GC man in there ?

    No Spilak or Zakharin? Even Taaramae was looking pretty good. Seems a strange team - Tony Martin hasn't been winning GT Time Trials recently but he and Kristoff seem to be the focus; maybe the thinking is that no GC means Martin can really compete on TTs and rest of time Kristoff goes for sprint stages

    Spilak has previously said he's not interested in GTs, and Zakharin just did the Giro (Nairo he is not. Mind you, Nairo might not be Nairo either).
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • Salsiccia1 wrote:
    imatfaal wrote:
    Katusha are building their Tour round Kristoff? I haven't been following the sport as closely recently do they have a GC man in there ?

    No Spilak or Zakharin? Even Taaramae was looking pretty good. Seems a strange team - Tony Martin hasn't been winning GT Time Trials recently but he and Kristoff seem to be the focus; maybe the thinking is that no GC means Martin can really compete on TTs and rest of time Kristoff goes for sprint stages

    Spilak has previously said he's not interested in GTs, and Zakharin just did the Giro (Nairo he is not. Mind you, Nairo might not be Nairo either).


    :lol:

    Kristoff at odds with da management, it seems. They're not taking Morkov for his leadouts and he's not 'appy
  • r0bhr0bh Posts: 1,594
    Sky = Froome, Henao, Kiri, Knees, Kwia, Landa, Nieve, Rowe, Thomas
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 57,281 Lives Here

    Cheers RR.

    I enjoy his blogs a lot - they're too sporadic for me to keep track of them, however.
  • yorkshirerawyorkshireraw Posts: 1,560
    r0bh wrote:
    Sky = Froome, Henao, Kiri, Knees, Kwia, Landa, Nieve, Rowe, Thomas

    Knees in for Stannard, by the looks of it. Stan not ridden that well (by his standards) all season, and been ill.

    The whole Pete K 'will he be picked?' thing was strange for me - given I'm sure he's stated previously he didn't want to ride the TDF again after 2015 experience.

    Froome will miss Poels but not bad replacements for him....
  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 10,219
    /\ Be interesting to see if Thomas has been able to carry his mountain form from earlier in the season
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 25,479
    Sky also likely to turn up to the Vuelta with a monster team: Poels, Rosa, Moscon, Stannard, Kennaugh, plus Henao underraced so far with Froome leading
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  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 25,479
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  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 10,219
    RichN95 wrote:
    Sky also likely to turn up to the Vuelta with a monster team: Poels, Rosa, Moscon, Stannard, Kennaugh, plus Henao underraced so far with Froome leading

    So what's the consensus on Froome's form?

    Part of me thinks he's deliberately timed his peak to come into he Dauphine slightly undercooked, in order to give himself a better chance in the Vuelta.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 57,281 Lives Here
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Sky also likely to turn up to the Vuelta with a monster team: Poels, Rosa, Moscon, Stannard, Kennaugh, plus Henao underraced so far with Froome leading

    So what's the consensus on Froome's form?

    He's not as good as he was last year, but he's still the man who won 3 TdFs and has the strongest team.
  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 10,219
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Sky also likely to turn up to the Vuelta with a monster team: Poels, Rosa, Moscon, Stannard, Kennaugh, plus Henao underraced so far with Froome leading

    So what's the consensus on Froome's form?

    He's not as good as he was last year, but he's still the man who won 3 TdFs and has the strongest team.

    Yeah, that seems clear, I was just speculating as to why - either he's slightly off the ball because of his early season back issue, because he's slightly past it, or because he's done it on purpose to peak later. Or because his training just hasn't gone as well as last year for no specific reason.
  • The_BoyThe_Boy Posts: 3,099
    bobmcstuff wrote:

    Yeah, that seems clear, I was just speculating as to why - either he's slightly off the ball because of his early season back issue, because he's slightly past it, or because he's done it on purpose to peak later. Or because his training just hasn't gone as well as last year for no specific reason.

    Are you suggesting that Froome is...finished?
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  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 25,479
    edited June 2017
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  • sherersherer Posts: 2,450
    The_Boy wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:

    Yeah, that seems clear, I was just speculating as to why - either he's slightly off the ball because of his early season back issue, because he's slightly past it, or because he's done it on purpose to peak later. Or because his training just hasn't gone as well as last year for no specific reason.

    Are you suggesting that Froome is...finished?

    so's Cav too :D
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 57,281 Lives Here
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Sky also likely to turn up to the Vuelta with a monster team: Poels, Rosa, Moscon, Stannard, Kennaugh, plus Henao underraced so far with Froome leading

    So what's the consensus on Froome's form?

    He's not as good as he was last year, but he's still the man who won 3 TdFs and has the strongest team.

    Yeah, that seems clear, I was just speculating as to why - either he's slightly off the ball because of his early season back issue, because he's slightly past it, or because he's done it on purpose to peak later. Or because his training just hasn't gone as well as last year for no specific reason.

    Back problems.
  • BobbinogsBobbinogs Posts: 4,841
    I thought the plan for Froome was always to try and ride into form during the race rather than peak early in the second week and then hang on. He has won before but admitted that an extra few days and he would have been in trouble as he was on a downward curve whereas the odd key rival was on the way up. Hence, he has deliberately aimed to be in the tough area between freshness and form. Start the race in good enough form but without actually being at the peak. Not sure if that plan is going on track though but time will tell...
  • salsiccia1salsiccia1 Posts: 3,715
    RichN95 wrote:
    Bicycle Manufacturing Company:

    Caruso
    Porte
    Roche
    Van Avermaet
    Küng
    Wyss
    De Marchi
    Moinard
    Schär

    Dennis will no doubt be having a tantrum somewhere (with good reason IMO)

    His own decision:

    https://twitter.com/RohanDennis/status/877884163982020608
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • what's the under/over on Landa throwing some shenanigans a la Vuelta 2015, esp as he's almost defo MOV-bound next year?
  • salsiccia1salsiccia1 Posts: 3,715
    what's the under/over on Landa throwing some shenanigans a la Vuelta 2015, esp as he's almost defo MOV-bound next year?

    I want Froome to win, but I'd like to see it just for the lols
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • Salsiccia1 wrote:
    what's the under/over on Landa throwing some shenanigans a la Vuelta 2015, esp as he's almost defo MOV-bound next year?

    I want Froome to win, but I'd like to see it just for the lols


    it would be lols and a certain symmetry
  • dish_dashdish_dash Posts: 5,254
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    what's the under/over on Landa throwing some shenanigans a la Vuelta 2015, esp as he's almost defo MOV-bound next year?

    I want Froome to win, but I'd like to see it just for the lols


    it would be lols and a certain symmetry

    It would be even more satisfying if Landa made it stick
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