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Apart from the Nukes, what has been seen is that Russias military is very much outdated.
All Putins Willy waving airspace and territorial water probing etc. now looks very silly.0 -
The kit is good. Always has been. Some of it has been ahead of western kit for years. However, their planning, organisation, leadership, training and tactics are just appalling.morstar said:Apart from the Nukes, what has been seen is that Russias military is very much outdated.
All Putins Willy waving airspace and territorial water probing etc. now looks very silly.0 -
what does that mean? stop using words that don't mean anything.rick_chasey said:
I find the idea that in certain situations otherwise rationale and healthy humans can both individually but also collectively be unimaginably awful to other humans really interesting.kingstonian said:rick_chasey said:
Famine caused somewhere on the spectrum of deliberately by Moscow and certainly deliberately exacerbated by Moscow to starve Ukraine to the tune of 3.5m dead or so.MattFalle said:
blimey, bet thats a fun read.rick_chasey said:About to start Red Famine by Applebaum - a Moscow destruction of Ukraine an order of magnitude bigger than this effort, for now at least.
There is a lot of beef there.
crack on with that Rick but please don't post your interpretations on here - enough stressy stress as is on this thread.
A genocide basically.
This isn't the first time Russia punishes Ukraine for having its own ideas.
Have you thought about reading slightly cheerier material every so often? Does wonders for one’s soul and general well-being.
This is presumably because I have lived a life of remarkable comfort so it is quite a distant concept which I can analyse and explore without tearing my metaphorical hair out.
Consider my general negativeness as coming from a place where I assume the good stuff is a given and so requires little or no attention paid to it. It's a sort of base line or natural optimism.
Rick - it us here. Not Harry and Olivia, middle management PWC and their sprog Monty.
You don't have to try and prove anything to us..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Yup. Abitshit is the technical term.rick_chasey said:
Doesn't the Belerussian military have an even worse reputation when it comes to capability than the Russians?thegreatdivide said:I bet Lukashenko is getting grief off moon faced Hitler to send in troops. Lukashenko is deffo saying 'nah yer alright moon faced Hitler'.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Good post action report:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ryCBcq_qxk
A few bits on Twitter from the more reliable sources saying Ukraine has started taking back ground. Let's see if it gets more confirmation...0 -
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Just seen on disclose that the French have been selling military equipment to the Putin regime since 2014 until 2020, I don't know how good this site is but certainly hope this is wrong. https://disclose.ngo/en/article/war-in-ukraine-how-france-delivered-weapons-to-russia-until-2020So Far!1
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Given the state of the Russian army it seems France may have played a blinder!loltoride said:Just seen on disclose that the French have been selling military equipment to the Putin regime since 2014 until 2020, I don't know how good this site is but certainly hope this is wrong. https://disclose.ngo/en/article/war-in-ukraine-how-france-delivered-weapons-to-russia-until-2020
Hard for us in the UK to get too outraged about who other countries sell arms to isn't it?- Genesis Croix de Fer
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The arms business is dodgy. It’s a business, they want to make lots of money.loltoride said:Just seen on disclose that the French have been selling military equipment to the Putin regime since 2014 until 2020, I don't know how good this site is but certainly hope this is wrong. https://disclose.ngo/en/article/war-in-ukraine-how-france-delivered-weapons-to-russia-until-2020
My uncle worked all his life for a company that made range finders for tanks. During the 70s and 80s he sold them to any Middle Eastern country that mainly had Centurion and Chieftain tanks. His passport was altered so that the other countries didn’t know where he’d been. He’s very old now, so I don’t think Mossad will mind.
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Can I ask which company? Armoured vehicle gun laying and optical sights were part of the repertoire that I was involved with...thegreatdivide said:
My uncle worked all his life for a company that made range finders for tanks. During the 70s and 80s he sold them to any Middle Eastern country that mainly had Centurion and Chieftain tanks. His passport was altered so that the other countries didn’t know where he’d been. He’s very old now, so I don’t think Mossad will mind.
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It was Barr & Stroud.0
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I'll return to my poker analogies. Putin is playing high stakes but the chips aren't his own - the chips are the lives of real people and the reputation his country.
Targeting Putin and his money/reputation sits way more comfortably with me than killing his pawns.0 -
and why are ypu so shocked/surprised?loltoride said:Just seen on disclose that the French have been selling military equipment to the Putin regime since 2014 until 2020, I don't know how good this site is but certainly hope this is wrong. https://disclose.ngo/en/article/war-in-ukraine-how-france-delivered-weapons-to-russia-until-2020
Who sold the Saudis the clusterbombs that are killing Yemeni children?
Who sold them the landmines?
Who sold countless African regimes military weapons, police riot equipment, etc?
Who trained their troops?
Yup, you're living there.
Don't faux shock anyone mec, every country is in the game..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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India - Putin's mate, no?
Saudi
UAE.....
Fine bastions of humanity all round.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_arms_export#:~:text=The UK's main arms deals,and fighter jets, machine guns.
China, Israel.......The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Just had a chat with my brother - he works for a tech start up, headquartered by Silicon Roundabout. They have a team of tech developers of 12 guys in Ukraine, with most of them based in Kyiv.
Two of the guys have always enjoyed flying drones - one of them got into drone racing (I didn’t know that was a “thing”), the other just flew them mainly for photography stuff. When my brother’s company last heard from them (end of last week) they said they were flying drones from dawn to dusk for the military, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they are assisting with identifying the targets that can then be whacked by NLAWs etc.0 -
OK - I get it , nobody here plays poker. It would appear that your bag is Call of Duty.
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It's not a binary choice...bikes_and_dogs said:OK - I get it , nobody here plays poker. It would appear that your bag is Call of Duty.
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Is this thread not about Ukraine and yes I am surprised any EU nation supplying Russia after the issue with Crimea.MattFalle said:
and why are ypu so shocked/surprised?loltoride said:Just seen on disclose that the French have been selling military equipment to the Putin regime since 2014 until 2020, I don't know how good this site is but certainly hope this is wrong. https://disclose.ngo/en/article/war-in-ukraine-how-france-delivered-weapons-to-russia-until-2020
Who sold the Saudis the clusterbombs that are killing Yemeni children?
Who sold them the landmines?
Who sold countless African regimes military weapons, police riot equipment, etc?
Who trained their troops?
Yup, you're living there.
Don't faux shock anyone mec, every country is in the game.
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Especially after they shot a passenger jet full of European citizens out of the sky over Crimea.loltoride said:
Is this thread not about Ukraine and yes I am surprised any EU nation supplying Russia after the issue with Crimea.MattFalle said:
and why are ypu so shocked/surprised?loltoride said:Just seen on disclose that the French have been selling military equipment to the Putin regime since 2014 until 2020, I don't know how good this site is but certainly hope this is wrong. https://disclose.ngo/en/article/war-in-ukraine-how-france-delivered-weapons-to-russia-until-2020
Who sold the Saudis the clusterbombs that are killing Yemeni children?
Who sold them the landmines?
Who sold countless African regimes military weapons, police riot equipment, etc?
Who trained their troops?
Yup, you're living there.
Don't faux shock anyone mec, every country is in the game.0 -
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I would have replied but I didn’t know what the pawn card is in poker.bikes_and_dogs said:OK - I get it , nobody here plays poker. It would appear that your bag is Call of Duty.
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
You spoiled the analogy by summing it up with a chess reference.bikes_and_dogs said:OK - I get it , nobody here plays poker. It would appear that your bag is Call of Duty.
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Does it look like a horse?blazing_saddles said:
I would have replied but I didn’t know what the pawn card is in poker.bikes_and_dogs said:OK - I get it , nobody here plays poker. It would appear that your bag is Call of Duty.
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Meh they supplied Argentina with missiles to use against the UK so not really a shock.loltoride said:
Is this thread not about Ukraine and yes I am surprised any EU nation supplying Russia after the issue with Crimea.MattFalle said:
and why are ypu so shocked/surprised?loltoride said:Just seen on disclose that the French have been selling military equipment to the Putin regime since 2014 until 2020, I don't know how good this site is but certainly hope this is wrong. https://disclose.ngo/en/article/war-in-ukraine-how-france-delivered-weapons-to-russia-until-2020
Who sold the Saudis the clusterbombs that are killing Yemeni children?
Who sold them the landmines?
Who sold countless African regimes military weapons, police riot equipment, etc?
Who trained their troops?
Yup, you're living there.
Don't faux shock anyone mec, every country is in the game.0 -
I'm deuced if I know.pinno said:
Does it look like a horse?blazing_saddles said:
I would have replied but I didn’t know what the pawn card is in poker.bikes_and_dogs said:OK - I get it , nobody here plays poker. It would appear that your bag is Call of Duty.
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Yep: Bluff cove air strikes by American planes firing Spanish missiles:
While unloading on 8 June, the British ships were attacked by two waves of A-4 Skyhawks from the Argentine Air Force's 5th Air Brigade, each of them loaded with three 500 lb retarding tail bombs of Spanish design.
seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
