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Pross said:
Bit of T Cut and it will be as good as new.briantrumpet said:Sink in fields, or go along tracks... hmm, tricky one...
I did wonder before whether there are likely to be drones getting flown out of Poland and piloted from Nevada or wherever it is the US pilots are based. Not sure how easy it would be for Russia to detect that and if it is the sort of 'deniable' direct action NATO could take.
I suspect not. That would be just too risky. I expect they’re making sure drones are taking off and landing in Ukraine to prevent the Russians pointing the finger.0 -
It always leads to an immediate response. Its just most of that time the response is "am I bovered"rjsterry said:Assume this is the Met taking the p***.
At least two vans full of bods in riot gear as they would send to any break-in in London. 🤣0 -
Marina Hyde on formJezyboy said:
It always leads to an immediate response. Its just most of that time the response is "am I bovered"rjsterry said:Assume this is the Met taking the p***.
At least two vans full of bods in riot gear as they would send to any break-in in London. 🤣
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/15/police-officer-oligarch-oleg-deripaska-belgravia-london
8 vans plus... That's more than Brenda would get. Shows Lahndahn's priorities in this modern rouble-washed world.0 -
It’s interesting that Russia hasn’t sent in its ‘super tank’ the T-14 Armata. Just like the Su-57 I mentioned earlier, they’ve been trying to flog it to foreign buyers. I suspect they’re bricking it in case it turns out to be a total lemon when it comes up against actual angry enemy.kingstonian said:
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Pross said:
Bit of T Cut and it will be as good as new.briantrumpet said:Sink in fields, or go along tracks... hmm, tricky one...
I did wonder before whether there are likely to be drones getting flown out of Poland and piloted from Nevada or wherever it is the US pilots are based. Not sure how easy it would be for Russia to detect that and if it is the sort of 'deniable' direct action NATO could take.
From bits I'm reading, I think the Ukrainians are making creative use of pretty standard commercial drones for a lot of work.
The tank looks like it might have met a carefully placed mine, with the drone observing.0 -
Haha. Nice tweet. Can't think why Trump wasn't sanctioned too 🤔
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trigger warning for the footage - another one where I'm not sure the detail was needed, but it literally is just a mavic drone...
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'tis a strange one, yep.briantrumpet said:Haha. Nice tweet. Can't think why Trump wasn't sanctioned too 🤔
Wonder why Putin didn't invade when he allegedly had POTUS in his pocket?
Unless of course he felt that an inept Biden presented a better opportunity than a compromised Trump?0 -
Similarly, all my assets and travel rights to Mars have been blocked.briantrumpet said:Haha. Nice tweet. Can't think why Trump wasn't sanctioned too 🤔
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'tis a strange one, yep.briantrumpet said:Haha. Nice tweet. Can't think why Trump wasn't sanctioned too 🤔
Wonder why Putin didn't invade when he allegedly had POTUS in his pocket?
Unless of course he felt that an inept Biden presented a better opportunity than a compromised Trump?
My uninformed hunch is he was hoping for more fracturing of western alliances (NATO, EU), especially had Trump got a second term, but that not having played out, he gave up waiting, and crossed his fingers.0 -
I suspect the real reason is they wanted to do it off the back of the Olympics when they thought the public mood would be good (like the last time they did it). There is a good doc on Netflix called Iracus where a cyclist starts looking into doping and manages to uncover the whole Russian plot (with the help of those working in the Russian doping program).ballysmate said:.
'tis a strange one, yep.briantrumpet said:Haha. Nice tweet. Can't think why Trump wasn't sanctioned too 🤔
Wonder why Putin didn't invade when he allegedly had POTUS in his pocket?
Unless of course he felt that an inept Biden presented a better opportunity than a compromised Trump?
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You could be right, who knows?briantrumpet said:ballysmate said:.
'tis a strange one, yep.briantrumpet said:Haha. Nice tweet. Can't think why Trump wasn't sanctioned too 🤔
Wonder why Putin didn't invade when he allegedly had POTUS in his pocket?
Unless of course he felt that an inept Biden presented a better opportunity than a compromised Trump?
My uninformed hunch is he was hoping for more fracturing of western alliances (NATO, EU), especially had Trump got a second term, but that not having played out, he gave up waiting, and crossed his fingers.
Or he could have thought that all of his stars had aligned when Biden got elected and KH was 'his' choice as VP.0 -
ballysmate said:
You could be right, who knows?briantrumpet said:ballysmate said:.
'tis a strange one, yep.briantrumpet said:Haha. Nice tweet. Can't think why Trump wasn't sanctioned too 🤔
Wonder why Putin didn't invade when he allegedly had POTUS in his pocket?
Unless of course he felt that an inept Biden presented a better opportunity than a compromised Trump?
My uninformed hunch is he was hoping for more fracturing of western alliances (NATO, EU), especially had Trump got a second term, but that not having played out, he gave up waiting, and crossed his fingers.
Or he could have thought that all of his stars had aligned when Biden got elected and KH was 'his' choice as VP.
Indeed, who knows. Whatever, let's hope his hopes turn to dust, and those who have aligned themselves with him get their just desserts, or have the decency to admit the error of their ways first.1 -
You did hear trump talk about nato?ballysmate said:
You could be right, who knows?briantrumpet said:ballysmate said:.
'tis a strange one, yep.briantrumpet said:Haha. Nice tweet. Can't think why Trump wasn't sanctioned too 🤔
Wonder why Putin didn't invade when he allegedly had POTUS in his pocket?
Unless of course he felt that an inept Biden presented a better opportunity than a compromised Trump?
My uninformed hunch is he was hoping for more fracturing of western alliances (NATO, EU), especially had Trump got a second term, but that not having played out, he gave up waiting, and crossed his fingers.
Or he could have thought that all of his stars had aligned when Biden got elected and KH was 'his' choice as VP.0 -
Which makes it all the more remarkable that Putin didn't go for it when The Donald was POTUS but saw a better opportunity with Biden don't you think?kingstongraham said:
You did hear trump talk about nato?ballysmate said:
You could be right, who knows?briantrumpet said:ballysmate said:.
'tis a strange one, yep.briantrumpet said:Haha. Nice tweet. Can't think why Trump wasn't sanctioned too 🤔
Wonder why Putin didn't invade when he allegedly had POTUS in his pocket?
Unless of course he felt that an inept Biden presented a better opportunity than a compromised Trump?
My uninformed hunch is he was hoping for more fracturing of western alliances (NATO, EU), especially had Trump got a second term, but that not having played out, he gave up waiting, and crossed his fingers.
Or he could have thought that all of his stars had aligned when Biden got elected and KH was 'his' choice as VP.
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Don’t discount one factor being that Covid has calmed down a fair bit too - that pretty much precluded him from doing it for the past 2 years,0
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He also waited until the Chinese year of the tiger to attack, which must mean he had some reason for not attacking in the year of the ox.ballysmate said:
Which makes it all the more remarkable that Putin didn't go for it when The Donald was POTUS but saw a better opportunity with Biden don't you think?kingstongraham said:
You did hear trump talk about nato?ballysmate said:
You could be right, who knows?briantrumpet said:ballysmate said:.
'tis a strange one, yep.briantrumpet said:Haha. Nice tweet. Can't think why Trump wasn't sanctioned too 🤔
Wonder why Putin didn't invade when he allegedly had POTUS in his pocket?
Unless of course he felt that an inept Biden presented a better opportunity than a compromised Trump?
My uninformed hunch is he was hoping for more fracturing of western alliances (NATO, EU), especially had Trump got a second term, but that not having played out, he gave up waiting, and crossed his fingers.
Or he could have thought that all of his stars had aligned when Biden got elected and KH was 'his' choice as VP.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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I think he just wanted it over before Paris Roubaix.
Complete nonsense, but about as valid.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Surely Putin is a Cake Stopper and is doing his bit to provide a long running topic of conversation following the winding down of The Covid thread.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]1
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And the Brexit thread.
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The evidence of the lack of preparation and the absurd expectations that Ukrainians would welcome their invaders make it clear Putin is getting lots of bad advice. In that context trying to read the invasion as a comparative assessment of Trump and Biden feels a little ridiculous.ballysmate said:
Which makes it all the more remarkable that Putin didn't go for it when The Donald was POTUS but saw a better opportunity with Biden don't you think?kingstongraham said:
You did hear trump talk about nato?ballysmate said:
You could be right, who knows?briantrumpet said:ballysmate said:.
'tis a strange one, yep.briantrumpet said:Haha. Nice tweet. Can't think why Trump wasn't sanctioned too 🤔
Wonder why Putin didn't invade when he allegedly had POTUS in his pocket?
Unless of course he felt that an inept Biden presented a better opportunity than a compromised Trump?
My uninformed hunch is he was hoping for more fracturing of western alliances (NATO, EU), especially had Trump got a second term, but that not having played out, he gave up waiting, and crossed his fingers.
Or he could have thought that all of his stars had aligned when Biden got elected and KH was 'his' choice as VP.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Didn’t need to. Trump was literally blackmailing Zelensky and a whole load of his advisors were in cahoots with the Kremlin and were specifically in Ukraineballysmate said:.
'tis a strange one, yep.briantrumpet said:Haha. Nice tweet. Can't think why Trump wasn't sanctioned too 🤔
Wonder why Putin didn't invade when he allegedly had POTUS in his pocket?
Unless of course he felt that an inept Biden presented a better opportunity than a compromised Trump?0 -
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Just to clear this up. I’m too tired to list it myself with links etc but go and look at what Trump is saying now, about Putin and what he was doing in Ukraine with Zelensky, and what his aids like Manafort were doing.
I have heard the “Putin wouldn’t invade if Trump was in charge” before.
Beyond stupid. Just think: correlation is not causation.0 -
No.ballysmate said:
Which makes it all the more remarkable that Putin didn't go for it when The Donald was POTUS but saw a better opportunity with Biden don't you think?kingstongraham said:
You did hear trump talk about nato?ballysmate said:
You could be right, who knows?briantrumpet said:ballysmate said:.
'tis a strange one, yep.briantrumpet said:Haha. Nice tweet. Can't think why Trump wasn't sanctioned too 🤔
Wonder why Putin didn't invade when he allegedly had POTUS in his pocket?
Unless of course he felt that an inept Biden presented a better opportunity than a compromised Trump?
My uninformed hunch is he was hoping for more fracturing of western alliances (NATO, EU), especially had Trump got a second term, but that not having played out, he gave up waiting, and crossed his fingers.
Or he could have thought that all of his stars had aligned when Biden got elected and KH was 'his' choice as VP.0 -
Quite possibly the opposite. While Trump was in power and sucking up to Putin, Putin had in place a beneficial relationship with the US he may not have wanted to jeopardise by invading Ukraine.ballysmate said:
Which makes it all the more remarkable that Putin didn't go for it when The Donald was POTUS but saw a better opportunity with Biden don't you think?kingstongraham said:
You did hear trump talk about nato?ballysmate said:
You could be right, who knows?briantrumpet said:ballysmate said:.
'tis a strange one, yep.briantrumpet said:Haha. Nice tweet. Can't think why Trump wasn't sanctioned too 🤔
Wonder why Putin didn't invade when he allegedly had POTUS in his pocket?
Unless of course he felt that an inept Biden presented a better opportunity than a compromised Trump?
My uninformed hunch is he was hoping for more fracturing of western alliances (NATO, EU), especially had Trump got a second term, but that not having played out, he gave up waiting, and crossed his fingers.
Or he could have thought that all of his stars had aligned when Biden got elected and KH was 'his' choice as VP.0 -
Looks like Trump might be going off his best friend...
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Trump does not have friends, he has enablers.briantrumpet said:Looks like Trump might be going off his best friend...
People who will enable him to get rich. See also Mrs. Markle but I divert...The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
No you need to look at what Trump and his aides were doing *in Ukraine*.morstar said:
Quite possibly the opposite. While Trump was in power and sucking up to Putin, Putin had in place a beneficial relationship with the US he may not have wanted to jeopardise by invading Ukraine.ballysmate said:
Which makes it all the more remarkable that Putin didn't go for it when The Donald was POTUS but saw a better opportunity with Biden don't you think?kingstongraham said:
You did hear trump talk about nato?ballysmate said:
You could be right, who knows?briantrumpet said:ballysmate said:.
'tis a strange one, yep.briantrumpet said:Haha. Nice tweet. Can't think why Trump wasn't sanctioned too 🤔
Wonder why Putin didn't invade when he allegedly had POTUS in his pocket?
Unless of course he felt that an inept Biden presented a better opportunity than a compromised Trump?
My uninformed hunch is he was hoping for more fracturing of western alliances (NATO, EU), especially had Trump got a second term, but that not having played out, he gave up waiting, and crossed his fingers.
Or he could have thought that all of his stars had aligned when Biden got elected and KH was 'his' choice as VP.
It's all there. We even discussed it at the time, only presumably we all forgot where it was taking place.
That phone call Trump got caught on? Threatening to withhold arms in return for compromat on Biden & his family? Who do you think he was talking to?0 -
Tbh it was just a tongue in cheek reply to Brian's joke that Trump hadn't been sanctioned. But my, aren't people keen to quash any suggestion that any facet of Biden's presidency could be inferior to Trump.rjsterry said:..
The evidence of the lack of preparation and the absurd expectations that Ukrainians would welcome their invaders make it clear Putin is getting lots of bad advice. In that context trying to read the invasion as a comparative assessment of Trump and Biden feels a little ridiculous.ballysmate said:kingstongraham said:
You did hear trump talk about nato?ballysmate said:
You could be right, who knows?briantrumpet said:ballysmate said:.
'tis a strange one, yep.briantrumpet said:Haha. Nice tweet. Can't think why Trump wasn't sanctioned too 🤔
Wonder why Putin didn't invade when he allegedly had POTUS in his pocket?
Unless of course he felt that an inept Biden presented a better opportunity than a compromised Trump?
My uninformed hunch is he was hoping for more fracturing of western alliances (NATO, EU), especially had Trump got a second term, but that not having played out, he gave up waiting, and crossed his fingers.
Or he could have thought that all of his stars had aligned when Biden got elected and KH was 'his' choice as VP.
Which makes it all the more remarkable that Putin didn't go for it when The Donald was POTUS but saw a better opportunity with Biden don't you think?
The lack of preparation is just Russian incompetence. Putin didn't just decide on a whim to invade. Something made him think the time was right.
After he invaded Crimea in 2014, he would have had eyes on Ukraine. That is why countries like Canada and the UK set up the likes of Ops Unifier and Orbital respectively to train Ukrainian forces.
But something stopped him invading between 2016 and 2020 didn't it, I wonder what it was. (Don't worry, tongue is still firmly in cheek)
But the messages coming from America have not been good have they? From the clusterfuck that was the withdrawal from Afghanistan to Sleepy Joe telling the world that a limited incursion into Ukraine would be acceptable and stating publicly that there are no red lines for the Russians. eg chemical weapons.
Then we have Kamala being sent to Poland to smooth things over after their Mig proposal rejected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QJbuFMpnio&ab_channel=TheTelegraph
Hope she had her Tena Lady pull up pants on.
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