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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/01/it-might-be-the-last-chance-to-get-out-citizens-flee-kyiv-as-assault-intensifies

    This is a very vivid piece, if grim reading.
    _
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,405
    seanoconn said:

    Just found out this morning that Putin is only 5 feet 5 inches tall officially, so could be even smaller.

    Does explain a lot and what little chance taller people have or reasoning with him.

    Deffo need the Chinese on board to mediate.

    So potentially this entire **** show is down to 'Little Man Syndrome'?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,405
    Interesting piece on the poor situation within the Russian army in Ukraine:
    https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/03/01/russian-troops-disarray-crying-combat-radio-messages-reveal/
    Happy to cut and paste if its paywalled.
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  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Stevo_666 said:

    seanoconn said:

    Just found out this morning that Putin is only 5 feet 5 inches tall officially, so could be even smaller.

    Does explain a lot and what little chance taller people have or reasoning with him.

    Deffo need the Chinese on board to mediate.

    So potentially this entire **** show is down to 'Little Man Syndrome'?
    Those big tables are obviously compensating for something...
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    kingstonian said:

    Wonder what Biden means when he said in his State of the Union speech “ You have no idea what’s coming.” Seeing as the West won’t do anything militarily, is there much more that can be done? Not clear what further economic sanctions there could be, beyond what is already in place.

    He's going to unleash all the alien stuff at Area 51...
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,405
    imposter2.0 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    seanoconn said:

    Just found out this morning that Putin is only 5 feet 5 inches tall officially, so could be even smaller.

    Does explain a lot and what little chance taller people have or reasoning with him.

    Deffo need the Chinese on board to mediate.

    So potentially this entire **** show is down to 'Little Man Syndrome'?
    Those big tables are obviously compensating for something...
    There are rumours going round that he is ill or immuno-compromised which may explain some of the bizarre social distancing he has been doing. That or he's read too much of the Big Coronavirus thread.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Stevo_666 said:

    imposter2.0 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    seanoconn said:

    Just found out this morning that Putin is only 5 feet 5 inches tall officially, so could be even smaller.

    Does explain a lot and what little chance taller people have or reasoning with him.

    Deffo need the Chinese on board to mediate.

    So potentially this entire **** show is down to 'Little Man Syndrome'?
    Those big tables are obviously compensating for something...
    There are rumours going round that he is ill or immuno-compromised which may explain some of the bizarre social distancing he has been doing. That or he's read too much of the Big Coronavirus thread.
    According to something I read, he has Parkinson's, although I don't know if that would explain things or not.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,553
    imposter2.0 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    imposter2.0 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    seanoconn said:

    Just found out this morning that Putin is only 5 feet 5 inches tall officially, so could be even smaller.

    Does explain a lot and what little chance taller people have or reasoning with him.

    Deffo need the Chinese on board to mediate.

    So potentially this entire **** show is down to 'Little Man Syndrome'?
    Those big tables are obviously compensating for something...
    There are rumours going round that he is ill or immuno-compromised which may explain some of the bizarre social distancing he has been doing. That or he's read too much of the Big Coronavirus thread.
    According to something I read, he has Parkinson's, although I don't know if that would explain things or not.
    No, it would not. He's always been like this. It's just that the places he was attacking were far enough away for us to ignore him until now.
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  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    edited March 2022
    rjsterry said:

    imposter2.0 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    imposter2.0 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    seanoconn said:

    Just found out this morning that Putin is only 5 feet 5 inches tall officially, so could be even smaller.

    Does explain a lot and what little chance taller people have or reasoning with him.

    Deffo need the Chinese on board to mediate.

    So potentially this entire **** show is down to 'Little Man Syndrome'?
    Those big tables are obviously compensating for something...
    There are rumours going round that he is ill or immuno-compromised which may explain some of the bizarre social distancing he has been doing. That or he's read too much of the Big Coronavirus thread.
    According to something I read, he has Parkinson's, although I don't know if that would explain things or not.
    No, it would not. He's always been like this. It's just that the places he was attacking were far enough away for us to ignore him until now.
    Agreed he's always been like this. I know Parkinsons won't turn someone into a psychopath. What I meant was, his change in appearance (looking heavier, more 'puffy' as someone described him) and the rambling unhinged speeches he's been delivering recently..
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    the lawn tennis assoc have decided that Russians can play as neutrals.

    so its ok to start a war and kill people if you play a shitmiddle class game.

    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    rick_chasey said:

    MattFalle said:

    rick_chasey said:

    thegreatdivide said:

    Interesting article by the Royal United Services Institute (the UK’s leading defence and security think tank) on why the Russian Air Force haven't turned up to the fight (hint - they're a bit censored and out of bombs):

    https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/mysterious-case-missing-russian-air-force

    If anyone plays hearts of iron you'd recognise the problems the Russians have - n00b problems.
    what does that mean Rick?
    it's just a ww2 strategy war sim game thing.

    supplying your armies and transport capacity is something you have to pay attention to.
    sorry - so you're now comparing this to a computer game?

    i suppose its all like COD on the grpund as well then?
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Rumours that even at big discounts at spot price there are no buyers for Russian oil.

    Naptha prices above all other cracks are surging which will feed into the price of plastics.

    Trivial over here but only for so long - inflation is gonna get sharper across the world.
    _
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328
    MattFalle said:

    the lawn tennis assoc have decided that Russians can play as neutrals.

    I'm thinking that could be fair. On one condition. They can only be neutral if they publicly renounce their Russian citizenship and become citizens elsewhere. Monaco probably.

    Russian people are not "Russia". #notinmyname
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    pblakeney said:

    MattFalle said:

    the lawn tennis assoc have decided that Russians can play as neutrals.

    I'm thinking that could be fair. On one condition. They can only be neutral if they publicly renounce their Russian citizenship and become citizens elsewhere. Monaco probably.

    Russian people are not "Russia". #notinmyname
    no.

    ban them like they have in footy, cycling, everything else.

    Russian people are Russia.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    no different to sanctions on oligarchs, etc. ban them. end of.

    or is it because they are tennis players?
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    edited March 2022
    There is an IOC distinction between teams and individuals. The FIA and the UCI and the LTA have all taken the same stance as a result. You will also find Russian football players playing for European club teams in uefa and fifa competition I expect.

    I don't think this is any different, frankly, to Russian employees in any other profession working outside of Russia.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    edited March 2022
    MattFalle said:

    pblakeney said:

    MattFalle said:

    the lawn tennis assoc have decided that Russians can play as neutrals.

    I'm thinking that could be fair. On one condition. They can only be neutral if they publicly renounce their Russian citizenship and become citizens elsewhere. Monaco probably.

    Russian people are not "Russia". #notinmyname
    no.

    ban them like they have in footy, cycling, everything else.

    Russian people are Russia.
    I don't think they've been banned in cycling at an individual level
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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    rick_chasey said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/01/it-might-be-the-last-chance-to-get-out-citizens-flee-kyiv-as-assault-intensifies

    This is a very vivid piece, if grim reading.

    Can I check that with your ealier Aleppo reference that you are not weakening in your resolve to arm the civilian population and turn urban areas into fortresses?
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    MattFalle said:

    no different to sanctions on oligarchs, etc. ban them. end of.

    or is it because they are tennis players?

    Daft.

    There was a Russian professor at Oxford University on telly last night? Should he be fired?
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    First.Aspect said:

    There is an IOC distinction between teams and individuals. The FIA and the UCI and the LTA have all taken the same stance as a result. You will also find Russian football players playing for European club teams in uefa and fifa competition I expect.

    I don't think this is any different, frankly, to Russian employees in any other profession working outside of Russia.

    The only comparison I can think of is S. Africa and I think we banned national teams not individuals
  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965
    You are right when you say Russians and not Russia. Where it gets harder is when you have supermaxi yachts racing in international competitions under flags such as Monaco when the money paying for them is dirty money at worst. At best from oligarchs that have done little to exert influence to the betterment of Russia and it's people.

    China will be watching with interest as on a global world if you don't sign up to a rules based order then why should you get to profit from global trade. I would argue you can't have global trade outside a rules based order. Where for example countries agree to basics such as not committing illegal acts in others territories or maybe even just obeying boundaries on a map. It's not hard.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    imposter2.0 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    seanoconn said:

    Just found out this morning that Putin is only 5 feet 5 inches tall officially, so could be even smaller.

    Does explain a lot and what little chance taller people have or reasoning with him.

    Deffo need the Chinese on board to mediate.

    So potentially this entire **** show is down to 'Little Man Syndrome'?
    Those big tables are obviously compensating for something...
    Maybe the table is actually normal sized?
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    pblakeney said:



    I'm thinking that could be fair. On one condition. They can only be neutral if they publicly renounce their Russian citizenship and become citizens elsewhere. Monaco probably.

    e

    Like the Russian authorities would allow that. They're sending people at the border back home if they seem like they might be making a run for it.
    _
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,915
    Feels like a war. "If you're Russian you're unemployed."
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    DeVlaeminck said:

    imposter2.0 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    seanoconn said:

    Just found out this morning that Putin is only 5 feet 5 inches tall officially, so could be even smaller.

    Does explain a lot and what little chance taller people have or reasoning with him.

    Deffo need the Chinese on board to mediate.

    So potentially this entire **** show is down to 'Little Man Syndrome'?
    Those big tables are obviously compensating for something...
    Maybe the table is actually normal sized?
    In which case, does it look a bit like Rick's dining room?
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    edited March 2022
    We should be giving individual Russians with skills visas more readily, not making them stay in Russia.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328
    rick_chasey said:

    pblakeney said:



    I'm thinking that could be fair. On one condition. They can only be neutral if they publicly renounce their Russian citizenship and become citizens elsewhere. Monaco probably.

    e

    Like the Russian authorities would allow that. They're sending people at the border back home if they seem like they might be making a run for it.
    Are they currently in Russia? I'd doubt it.
    Moot point if they are.
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  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    kingstongraham said:

    We should be giving individual Russians with skills visas more readily, not making them stay in Russia.

    As long as they don't come via plane or ship. ;)
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    TheBigBean said:

    Feels like a war. "If you're Russian you're unemployed."

    I suspect if it was not for the nukes NATO would have got stuck in
    _
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    rick_chasey said:

    TheBigBean said:

    Feels like a war. "If you're Russian you're unemployed."

    I suspect if it was not for the nukes NATO would have got stuck in
    what would you see that looking like?

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