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Done it already. Deliberate provocation by Poland.rjsterry said:
A reminder that they shot down a foreign airliner and just shrugged and said "wasn't us". Not sure I'd rule it out.MattFalle said:.
We'renlooking at this now - could be the Russians are using stuff that is do shytethat its just point and hope snd they have no real idea where its going, massive incompetence or they're kicking off on Poland.rjsterry said:Reports that two Russian rockets have hit grain dryers in Poland, killing two people.
Most probs a combo of 1 & 2 tbh. They're stupid but not stupid enough for 3.
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its most probs because they're down to using rubbish old shoot downable stuff. none of the clever stuff left.....
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I wonder how this and all your posts about the West capability against the Ivan’s stand up these days.MattFalle said:Just to put it into context gents, Putin currently has more troops standing around at the Ukraine border than the British Army has working rifles.
Somebody up above said Britain should put a 15,000 strong armoured battle group there - these numbers do not exist. You could problly stick 500 blokes, 4 Challies and a Rover there, but 15,000 strong armoured? Stuff of gammon dreams.
Someone's been reading too much Rod Little.1 -
I haven't searched back but I seem to remember Matt did say Russian numbers weren't enough to take and hold Ukraine.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
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Maybe it’s worth a look.DeVlaeminck said:I haven't searched back but I seem to remember Matt did say Russian numbers weren't enough to take and hold Ukraine.
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Was thinking about that a few days ago but think the point was more about how badly the UK forces are resourced rather than the Russians being any good (and the delusion among flag wavers that we are a top military power). No idea how true that is but it does feel like we have a well trained, professional military who are poorly equipped from various reports over the years.webboo said:
I wonder how this and all your posts about the West capability against the Ivan’s stand up these days.MattFalle said:Just to put it into context gents, Putin currently has more troops standing around at the Ukraine border than the British Army has working rifles.
Somebody up above said Britain should put a 15,000 strong armoured battle group there - these numbers do not exist. You could problly stick 500 blokes, 4 Challies and a Rover there, but 15,000 strong armoured? Stuff of gammon dreams.
Someone's been reading too much Rod Little.0 -
However it would seem some of our equipment is being used by the Ukrainians so it can’t be that sh*t.
I just wonder if MF views on the military are like his views on club cyclists and Ultegra.0 -
To be fair I'm sure we've all heard stories about UK soldiers being less well equipped than they would like[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
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Latest reports the missile that killed 2 in Poland was a Ukrainian defence missile[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]1
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From who? Mr Butin who is wearing glasses and a fake moustache?DeVlaeminck said:Latest reports the missile that killed 2 in Poland was a Ukrainian defence missile
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sorry - trying to work out what you're trying to say.webboo said:
I wonder how this and all your posts about the West capability against the Ivan’s stand up these days.MattFalle said:Just to put it into context gents, Putin currently has more troops standing around at the Ukraine border than the British Army has working rifles.
Somebody up above said Britain should put a 15,000 strong armoured battle group there - these numbers do not exist. You could problly stick 500 blokes, 4 Challies and a Rover there, but 15,000 strong armoured? Stuff of gammon dreams.
Someone's been reading too much Rod Little.
are you saying that the british military isn't massively under manned, under trained, under equipped, using crapstuff with v little reserves, living in awful accomodation?
in which case you're wrong.
or are you trying to make another point?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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No - the US and other independant bods.rick_chasey said:
From who? Mr Butin who is wearing glasses and a fake moustache?DeVlaeminck said:Latest reports the missile that killed 2 in Poland was a Ukrainian defence missile
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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they've given them some LAWS, Mastiffs, Bulldogs and arty with a few other bitswebboo said:However it would seem some of our equipment is being used by the Ukrainians so it can’t be that sh*t.
I just wonder if MF views on the military are like his views on club cyclists and Ultegra.
The Ukranians said no thankyou to our boots,uniforms, rifles, Land Rovers, etc. You know, the stuff you use every day that you rely on.
Tbh, we don't even use the SA80s if we we get a chance.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/16/poland-missile-unlikely-to-have-been-fired-from-russia-biden-saysrick_chasey said:
From who? Mr Butin who is wearing glasses and a fake moustache?DeVlaeminck said:Latest reports the missile that killed 2 in Poland was a Ukrainian defence missile
now calm down for the moment Rick. We're not dooooooooomed until at least tea and toast time..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Would make some sense... which doesn't mean it's true.
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Does that mean I have defer making myself a cuppa?MattFalle said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/16/poland-missile-unlikely-to-have-been-fired-from-russia-biden-saysrick_chasey said:
From who? Mr Butin who is wearing glasses and a fake moustache?DeVlaeminck said:Latest reports the missile that killed 2 in Poland was a Ukrainian defence missile
now calm down for the moment Rick. We're not dooooooooomed until at least tea and toast time."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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i thought you had a minion or 7 to do that?Stevo_666 said:
Does that mean I have defer making myself a cuppa?MattFalle said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/16/poland-missile-unlikely-to-have-been-fired-from-russia-biden-saysrick_chasey said:
From who? Mr Butin who is wearing glasses and a fake moustache?DeVlaeminck said:Latest reports the missile that killed 2 in Poland was a Ukrainian defence missile
now calm down for the moment Rick. We're not dooooooooomed until at least tea and toast time..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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WFH in the cave today so I'm on my own on the tea front. Sob.MattFalle said:
i thought you had a minion or 7 to do that?Stevo_666 said:
Does that mean I have defer making myself a cuppa?MattFalle said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/16/poland-missile-unlikely-to-have-been-fired-from-russia-biden-saysrick_chasey said:
From who? Mr Butin who is wearing glasses and a fake moustache?DeVlaeminck said:Latest reports the missile that killed 2 in Poland was a Ukrainian defence missile
now calm down for the moment Rick. We're not dooooooooomed until at least tea and toast time.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
unacceptable. do you an urn in there or is it a fresh mug/pot each time?Stevo_666 said:
WFH in the cave today so I'm on my own on the tea front. Sob.MattFalle said:
i thought you had a minion or 7 to do that?Stevo_666 said:
Does that mean I have defer making myself a cuppa?MattFalle said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/16/poland-missile-unlikely-to-have-been-fired-from-russia-biden-saysrick_chasey said:
From who? Mr Butin who is wearing glasses and a fake moustache?DeVlaeminck said:Latest reports the missile that killed 2 in Poland was a Ukrainian defence missile
now calm down for the moment Rick. We're not dooooooooomed until at least tea and toast time..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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The geeks were well ahead of the game re these missiles. By 21:30 ish last night, while the world's media were going apesh1t, the open-source lot had already identified from the bits of missile posted online that it was an S300 SAM which could only have been fired from Ukraine (short fuel load for one purpose - shooting other stuff down). It was just a tragic accident.
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Got kettle and cups, so fresh cup when I fancy one.MattFalle said:
unacceptable. do you an urn in there or is it a fresh mug/pot each time?Stevo_666 said:
WFH in the cave today so I'm on my own on the tea front. Sob.MattFalle said:
i thought you had a minion or 7 to do that?Stevo_666 said:
Does that mean I have defer making myself a cuppa?MattFalle said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/16/poland-missile-unlikely-to-have-been-fired-from-russia-biden-saysrick_chasey said:
From who? Mr Butin who is wearing glasses and a fake moustache?DeVlaeminck said:Latest reports the missile that killed 2 in Poland was a Ukrainian defence missile
now calm down for the moment Rick. We're not dooooooooomed until at least tea and toast time.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
leaf or bag? biscuit choice?
please say that you have a pie at 10:30 each dsy..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Both sides use that system, as most likely also do Belarus. But although it isn't clear cut, this is what the story has to be anyway.thegreatdivide said:The geeks were well ahead of the game re these missiles. By 21:30 ish last night, while the world's media were going apesh1t, the open-source lot had already identified from the bits of missile posted online that it was an S300 SAM which could only have been fired from Ukraine (short fuel load for one purpose - shooting other stuff down). It was just a tragic accident.
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Well aware of that, but the most widely used S300 only has a max 100km range, and these landed over the border from Lviv where there will be S300s deployed by the UF.First.Aspect said:
Both sides use that system, as most likely also do Belarus. But although it isn't clear cut, this is what the story has to be anyway.
My money is firmly on an accident.
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thegreatdivide said:
Well aware of that, but the most widely used S300 only has a max 100km range, and these landed over the border from Lviv where there will be S300s deployed by the UF.First.Aspect said:
Both sides use that system, as most likely also do Belarus. But although it isn't clear cut, this is what the story has to be anyway.
My money is firmly on an accident.
Given the number of incoming missiles, it wouldn't be surprising that the Ukrainians were also putting a lot of explosive stuff up into the air too.0 -
That's it pretty much confirmed now. A UF S300 that accidently ended up in Poland.0
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Teabags. No biccies, but I do have an emergency pork pie or a scotch egg in the fridge in case of mid morning munchies.MattFalle said:leaf or bag? biscuit choice?
please say that you have a pie at 10:30 each dsy.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Pork pies straight outa the fridge are a crime against humanity, and I eat them a few times a week at least.
Gotta let them come up to room temperature and sweat a little.0
