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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661



    ..but from George Soros you get the complete ensemble:
    "George Soros: Ukraine conflict could become Third World War and end civilisation"

    I have no particular axe to grind with Mr Soros, but as someone who is basically just a hedge fund manager and wealthy philanthropist, he is probably no more qualified to comment on long-term geopolitics and the survival of the species than I am...

    The difference being that because I am not quite as loaded as he is, I don't get a platform on the BBC...

    He’s best known for global macro funds so this sort of thing is near his wheelhouse (if not in it) and he’s certainly up there with the world’s greatest money managers, and almost certainly top one or two in global macro.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028



    ..but from George Soros you get the complete ensemble:
    "George Soros: Ukraine conflict could become Third World War and end civilisation"

    I have no particular axe to grind with Mr Soros, but as someone who is basically just a hedge fund manager and wealthy philanthropist, he is probably no more qualified to comment on long-term geopolitics and the survival of the species than I am...

    The difference being that because I am not quite as loaded as he is, I don't get a platform on the BBC...

    He’s best known for global macro funds so this sort of thing is near his wheelhouse (if not in it) and he’s certainly up there with the world’s greatest money managers, and almost certainly top one or two in global macro.
    Yes, I know who he is. But I refer you back to my statement above. He has no more ability to predict WW3 and civilisation's demise than I do.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644



    ..but from George Soros you get the complete ensemble:
    "George Soros: Ukraine conflict could become Third World War and end civilisation"

    I have no particular axe to grind with Mr Soros, but as someone who is basically just a hedge fund manager and wealthy philanthropist, he is probably no more qualified to comment on long-term geopolitics and the survival of the species than I am...

    The difference being that because I am not quite as loaded as he is, I don't get a platform on the BBC...

    He’s best known for global macro funds so this sort of thing is near his wheelhouse (if not in it) and he’s certainly up there with the world’s greatest money managers, and almost certainly top one or two in global macro.
    Bet he can't do the Fan Dance though.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661



    ..but from George Soros you get the complete ensemble:
    "George Soros: Ukraine conflict could become Third World War and end civilisation"

    I have no particular axe to grind with Mr Soros, but as someone who is basically just a hedge fund manager and wealthy philanthropist, he is probably no more qualified to comment on long-term geopolitics and the survival of the species than I am...

    The difference being that because I am not quite as loaded as he is, I don't get a platform on the BBC...

    He’s best known for global macro funds so this sort of thing is near his wheelhouse (if not in it) and he’s certainly up there with the world’s greatest money managers, and almost certainly top one or two in global macro.
    Yes, I know who he is. But I refer you back to my statement above. He has no more ability to predict WW3 and civilisation's demise than I do.
    Running money is about making predictions and putting your money where your mouth is.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,271



    ..but from George Soros you get the complete ensemble:
    "George Soros: Ukraine conflict could become Third World War and end civilisation"

    I have no particular axe to grind with Mr Soros, but as someone who is basically just a hedge fund manager and wealthy philanthropist, he is probably no more qualified to comment on long-term geopolitics and the survival of the species than I am...

    The difference being that because I am not quite as loaded as he is, I don't get a platform on the BBC...

    He’s best known for global macro funds so this sort of thing is near his wheelhouse (if not in it) and he’s certainly up there with the world’s greatest money managers, and almost certainly top one or two in global macro.
    Yes, I know who he is. But I refer you back to my statement above. He has no more ability to predict WW3 and civilisation's demise than I do.
    Running money is about making predictions and putting your other people's money where your mouth is.
    FTFY

    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    pblakeney said:



    ..but from George Soros you get the complete ensemble:
    "George Soros: Ukraine conflict could become Third World War and end civilisation"

    I have no particular axe to grind with Mr Soros, but as someone who is basically just a hedge fund manager and wealthy philanthropist, he is probably no more qualified to comment on long-term geopolitics and the survival of the species than I am...

    The difference being that because I am not quite as loaded as he is, I don't get a platform on the BBC...

    He’s best known for global macro funds so this sort of thing is near his wheelhouse (if not in it) and he’s certainly up there with the world’s greatest money managers, and almost certainly top one or two in global macro.
    Yes, I know who he is. But I refer you back to my statement above. He has no more ability to predict WW3 and civilisation's demise than I do.
    Running money is about making predictions and putting your other people's money where your mouth is.
    FTFY

    Soros has plenty of skin in the game.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,271

    pblakeney said:



    ..but from George Soros you get the complete ensemble:
    "George Soros: Ukraine conflict could become Third World War and end civilisation"

    I have no particular axe to grind with Mr Soros, but as someone who is basically just a hedge fund manager and wealthy philanthropist, he is probably no more qualified to comment on long-term geopolitics and the survival of the species than I am...

    The difference being that because I am not quite as loaded as he is, I don't get a platform on the BBC...

    He’s best known for global macro funds so this sort of thing is near his wheelhouse (if not in it) and he’s certainly up there with the world’s greatest money managers, and almost certainly top one or two in global macro.
    Yes, I know who he is. But I refer you back to my statement above. He has no more ability to predict WW3 and civilisation's demise than I do.
    Running money is about making predictions and putting your other people's money where your mouth is.
    FTFY

    Soros has plenty of skin in the game.
    That's as maybe but the funds aren't his money.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited May 2022
    They are partly his money.

    See it as, he’s so good at predicting, people pay him to put their money where his mouth is.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,271

    They are partly his money.

    See it as, he’s so good at predicting, people pay him to put their money where his mouth is.

    That's what I wrote.
    I have no knowledge of his prediction record.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,722

    They are partly his money.

    See it as, he’s so good at predicting, people pay him to put their money where his mouth is.

    You trying to make him sound like Nostradamus.

    Makes me wonder if he's that good, why he didn't make his prediction before the conflict started.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Sure. He’s not just any fund manager and that’s why he gets global coverage when he opens his mouth.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028

    Sure. He’s not just any fund manager and that’s why he gets global coverage when he opens his mouth.

    I think you need to calm down rick. Undoubtedly Mr Soros knows a thing or two about how to make money on backs of others, but his predictions in this context are about as relevant as someone like Beyonce or Kanye....

  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867

    Sure. He’s not just any fund manager and that’s why he gets global coverage when he opens his mouth.

    I think you need to calm down rick. Undoubtedly Mr Soros knows a thing or two about how to make money on backs of others, but his predictions in this context are about as relevant as someone like Beyonce or Kanye....

    If you read what Rick wrote you will see that is not true.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867



    Looks like the Russians are making progress
    MattFalle said:
    Latest reports are that only 25km separate the northern and southern Russian advances to close the encirclement
    At the risk of being labelled a dinner party strategist can I say that it looks increasingly like Rick reporting mainstream news seems to be correct
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028

    Sure. He’s not just any fund manager and that’s why he gets global coverage when he opens his mouth.

    I think you need to calm down rick. Undoubtedly Mr Soros knows a thing or two about how to make money on backs of others, but his predictions in this context are about as relevant as someone like Beyonce or Kanye....

    If you read what Rick wrote you will see that is not true.
    I have read what Rick wrote. So why don't you tell me why it's not true?
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867

    Sure. He’s not just any fund manager and that’s why he gets global coverage when he opens his mouth.

    I think you need to calm down rick. Undoubtedly Mr Soros knows a thing or two about how to make money on backs of others, but his predictions in this context are about as relevant as someone like Beyonce or Kanye....

    If you read what Rick wrote you will see that is not true.
    I have read what Rick wrote. So why don't you tell me why it's not true?
    Soros takes positions based on global overarching factors, he will base his opinion from direct access to the highest sources. As he has been doing this successfully for 40 odd years it would suggest that his opinion carries more weight than Beyonce or Kanye.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    edited May 2022

    Sure. He’s not just any fund manager and that’s why he gets global coverage when he opens his mouth.

    I think you need to calm down rick. Undoubtedly Mr Soros knows a thing or two about how to make money on backs of others, but his predictions in this context are about as relevant as someone like Beyonce or Kanye....

    If you read what Rick wrote you will see that is not true.
    I have read what Rick wrote. So why don't you tell me why it's not true?
    Soros takes positions based on global overarching factors, he will base his opinion from direct access to the highest sources. As he has been doing this successfully for 40 odd years it would suggest that his opinion carries more weight than Beyonce or Kanye.
    Yes, I get that. But he's a hedge fund manager, not an anthropologist or a geopolitical pathologist. In that sense, his views on the likelihood of WW3 or survival of the species carry no more relevance than mine do.

    Incidentally, what are these 'highest sources' that you think he has access to?
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,722

    Sure. He’s not just any fund manager and that’s why he gets global coverage when he opens his mouth.

    I think you need to calm down rick. Undoubtedly Mr Soros knows a thing or two about how to make money on backs of others, but his predictions in this context are about as relevant as someone like Beyonce or Kanye....

    If you read what Rick wrote you will see that is not true.
    I have read what Rick wrote. So why don't you tell me why it's not true?
    Soros takes positions based on global overarching factors, he will base his opinion from direct access to the highest sources. As he has been doing this successfully for 40 odd years it would suggest that his opinion carries more weight than Beyonce or Kanye.
    Yes, I get that. But he's a hedge fund manager, not an anthropologist or a geopolitical pathologist. In that sense, his views on the likelihood of WW3 or survival of the species carry no more relevance than mine do.

    Incidentally, what are these 'highest sources' that you think he has access to?
    Would it not be more accurate to question whether these highest sources are experts in relevant specific areas?
    I would assume these highest sources would have financial expertise as those would be the circles in which he moves.

    If that’s the case, the point is moot.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867

    Sure. He’s not just any fund manager and that’s why he gets global coverage when he opens his mouth.

    I think you need to calm down rick. Undoubtedly Mr Soros knows a thing or two about how to make money on backs of others, but his predictions in this context are about as relevant as someone like Beyonce or Kanye....

    If you read what Rick wrote you will see that is not true.
    I have read what Rick wrote. So why don't you tell me why it's not true?
    Soros takes positions based on global overarching factors, he will base his opinion from direct access to the highest sources. As he has been doing this successfully for 40 odd years it would suggest that his opinion carries more weight than Beyonce or Kanye.
    Yes, I get that. But he's a hedge fund manager, not an anthropologist or a geopolitical pathologist. In that sense, his views on the likelihood of WW3 or survival of the species carry no more relevance than mine do.

    Incidentally, what are these 'highest sources' that you think he has access to?
    I think you would be staggered at the circles he moves in
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,856
    I don't know how to put this without blatant ageism. He's 91 and probably not quite as involved as he once was.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    I don't know how to put this without blatant ageism. He's 91 and probably not quite as involved as he once was.

    Fair
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028

    Sure. He’s not just any fund manager and that’s why he gets global coverage when he opens his mouth.

    I think you need to calm down rick. Undoubtedly Mr Soros knows a thing or two about how to make money on backs of others, but his predictions in this context are about as relevant as someone like Beyonce or Kanye....

    If you read what Rick wrote you will see that is not true.
    I have read what Rick wrote. So why don't you tell me why it's not true?
    Soros takes positions based on global overarching factors, he will base his opinion from direct access to the highest sources. As he has been doing this successfully for 40 odd years it would suggest that his opinion carries more weight than Beyonce or Kanye.
    Yes, I get that. But he's a hedge fund manager, not an anthropologist or a geopolitical pathologist. In that sense, his views on the likelihood of WW3 or survival of the species carry no more relevance than mine do.

    Incidentally, what are these 'highest sources' that you think he has access to?
    I think you would be staggered at the circles he moves in
    Then tell me. Allow me to be staggered at the information you are about to reveal...
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028

    I don't know how to put this without blatant ageism. He's 91 and probably not quite as involved as he once was.

    Tell that to Rupert fxxing Murdoch - he's also 91...
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,110
    edited May 2022

    I don't know how to put this without blatant ageism. He's 91 and probably not quite as involved as he once was.

    Tell that to Rupert fxxing Murdoch - he's also 91...
    You know he sold Sky?

    And don't say Bernie Ecclestone next either. He no longer runs F1.

    The Queen would be a better example. But we don't have any opinions, formally.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited May 2022
    Apparently the Russian effort to make a small encirclement has stalled.

    Some chat that even with all the dense railways which the Russian army relies heavily on for supply in that region, they have between 3-5 days of effort before they need to pause.

    In essence that then means the line hardens again as Ukraine then regroups and builds new defences.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867

    Sure. He’s not just any fund manager and that’s why he gets global coverage when he opens his mouth.

    I think you need to calm down rick. Undoubtedly Mr Soros knows a thing or two about how to make money on backs of others, but his predictions in this context are about as relevant as someone like Beyonce or Kanye....

    If you read what Rick wrote you will see that is not true.
    I have read what Rick wrote. So why don't you tell me why it's not true?
    Soros takes positions based on global overarching factors, he will base his opinion from direct access to the highest sources. As he has been doing this successfully for 40 odd years it would suggest that his opinion carries more weight than Beyonce or Kanye.
    Yes, I get that. But he's a hedge fund manager, not an anthropologist or a geopolitical pathologist. In that sense, his views on the likelihood of WW3 or survival of the species carry no more relevance than mine do.

    Incidentally, what are these 'highest sources' that you think he has access to?
    I think you would be staggered at the circles he moves in
    Then tell me. Allow me to be staggered at the information you are about to reveal...
    www.google.com
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028

    I don't know how to put this without blatant ageism. He's 91 and probably not quite as involved as he once was.

    Tell that to Rupert fxxing Murdoch - he's also 91...
    You know he sold Sky?

    And don't say Bernie Ecclestone next either. He no longer runs F1.

    The Queen would be a better example. But we don't have any opinions, formally.
    I was thinking more Fox News, smartarse...
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028



    www.google.com

    Seriously - you tell me. You seem to be ITK. What are these circles he moves in, that I would be staggered by. If you're struggling, just give me one or two names as an example...

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited May 2022
    Latest Rachman Review (available on Spotify) on the global food programme is good if extremely bleak. Head of the UN food programme explaining the problems, short and medium term.

    Makes a good point that when if comes to big food shortages, those who can afford usually pays for it in one way or another - either cheaply by donating food and assisting the problem or expensively when they migrate because else they starve to death.

    Short term is a big problem - a lot more acute than the build up to Arab spring with around 43 countries with serious starvation problems problems.

    (The actual podcast sounds a bit weird as the Head who is doing the talking an American from the Deep South and the folksy way he talks jars a little with the topic)

  • johngti
    johngti Posts: 2,508
    Fuckme there’s some doom mongers on this thread.