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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,460
    Have they not just created a salient for themselves there? I thought that was something you try to avoid as it leaves your flanks exposed
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    orraloon said:

    There's a fake tree at the top of the adjacent climb to the one out of our village. It's a mobile mast.

    Are there monkeypoxers lurking in the branches?
    Fake birds on the branches

    #they'rewatchingyou
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    It’s a bit old that post but a lot of good Ukrainian forces are in there so if they can cut off sup



    Looks like the Russians are making progress
    MattFalle said:
    Latest reports are that only 25km separate the northern and southern Russian advances to close the encirclement
    At the risk of being labelled a dinner party strategist can I say that it looks increasingly like Rick reporting mainstream news seems to be correct
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Bit more tough news - UKAF losing 60-100 dead and 500 odd wounded *a day* at the moment according to Zelensky.

  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,109

    Bit more tough news - UKAF losing 60-100 dead and 500 odd wounded *a day* at the moment according to Zelensky.

    Saw that, but I cant put it into context. What are the Russian numbers?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Certainly is attritional if that’s how they’re thinking about it
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867

    Certainly is attritional if that’s how they’re thinking about it

    No, it is very much about land.

    The American war in Vietnam was attritional.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    It’s a bit old that post but a lot of good Ukrainian forces are in there so if they can cut off sup



    Looks like the Russians are making progress
    MattFalle said:
    Latest reports are that only 25km separate the northern and southern Russian advances to close the encirclement
    At the risk of being labelled a dinner party strategist can I say that it looks increasingly like Rick reporting mainstream news seems to be correct



    UKAF a few steps ahead 😎
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Russian 'military intelligence' - there isn't any....in any sense of the word...
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited June 2022
    Have to say I think Macron has got it very wrong with the endless phone calls with Putin and demanding an “off ramp” option for Russia.

    Russia will only get it when they’re beaten food and proper.

    UK has certainly understood this. US too.
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    To jaw jaw etc.

    Easy for you to say from the comfort of your home.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    To jaw jaw etc.

    Easy for you to say from the comfort of your home.

    Sure, as it is from Macron’s palace.

    Don’t think Ukrainians are too pleased with Macron either.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190

    To jaw jaw etc.

    Easy for you to say from the comfort of your home.

    Sure, as it is from Macron’s palace.

    Don’t think Ukrainians are too pleased with Macron either.
    There’s a reason diplomacy is done quietly in the background.

    You have to compromise. But nobody wishes to advertise the act of compromising.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited June 2022
    morstar said:

    To jaw jaw etc.

    Easy for you to say from the comfort of your home.

    Sure, as it is from Macron’s palace.

    Don’t think Ukrainians are too pleased with Macron either.
    There’s a reason diplomacy is done quietly in the background.

    You have to compromise. But nobody wishes to advertise the act of compromising.
    He is though. Loudly. Honestly I don’t think there is much room for diplomacy at the moment.

    I think the most effective cause of action (and UK govt is taking this action) is really doing what you can to help Ukraine win. Without that, Russia is not gonna just give up to “save face”. Nothing they’ve done suggests they care about what it all looks like.

    I know I’m very anti Brit pro anything European but on this specifically the UK has got it right and France really quite wrong.

    Macron would be better spent spending 100 hours on the phone to Scholz explaining that though their support of Ukrainian refugees is admirable (really is) their reticence and intransigence to help the war effort is genuinely problematic.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,106
    It does concern me in a fatalistic kind of way that sustained threats have to be backed up by action at some point.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,106

    It does concern me in a fatalistic kind of way that sustained threats have to be backed up by action at some point.

    Ah, don't worry about it FocusZing most people in the World are sane enough for it not to happen.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,106

    It does concern me in a fatalistic kind of way that sustained threats have to be backed up by action at some point.

    Ah, don't worry about it FocusZing most people in the World are sane enough for it not to happen.
    Yeah, fair point. You do speak a lot of sense.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    U ok hun?
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,290

    morstar said:

    To jaw jaw etc.

    Easy for you to say from the comfort of your home.

    Sure, as it is from Macron’s palace.

    Don’t think Ukrainians are too pleased with Macron either.
    There’s a reason diplomacy is done quietly in the background.

    You have to compromise. But nobody wishes to advertise the act of compromising.
    He is though. Loudly. Honestly I don’t think there is much room for diplomacy at the moment.

    I think the most effective cause of action (and UK govt is taking this action) is really doing what you can to help Ukraine win. Without that, Russia is not gonna just give up to “save face”. Nothing they’ve done suggests they care about what it all looks like.

    I know I’m very anti Brit pro anything European but on this specifically the UK has got it right and France really quite wrong.

    Macron would be better spent spending 100 hours on the phone to Scholz explaining that though their support of Ukrainian refugees is admirable (really is) their reticence and intransigence to help the war effort is genuinely problematic.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,691
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867

    morstar said:

    To jaw jaw etc.

    Easy for you to say from the comfort of your home.

    Sure, as it is from Macron’s palace.

    Don’t think Ukrainians are too pleased with Macron either.
    There’s a reason diplomacy is done quietly in the background.

    You have to compromise. But nobody wishes to advertise the act of compromising.
    He is though. Loudly. Honestly I don’t think there is much room for diplomacy at the moment.

    I think the most effective cause of action (and UK govt is taking this action) is really doing what you can to help Ukraine win. Without that, Russia is not gonna just give up to “save face”. Nothing they’ve done suggests they care about what it all looks like.

    I really think you have fallen for the hype and that what we are delivering is inconsequential to the outcome and in fairness I doubt we have the capacity to supply enough to change the outcome.

    I am not convinced that the USA is trying to help Ukraine win. IMHO they would be happy with an endless war that bled Russia dry.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,691
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    U ok hun?

    morstar said:

    To jaw jaw etc.

    Easy for you to say from the comfort of your home.

    Sure, as it is from Macron’s palace.

    Don’t think Ukrainians are too pleased with Macron either.
    There’s a reason diplomacy is done quietly in the background.

    You have to compromise. But nobody wishes to advertise the act of compromising.
    He is though. Loudly. Honestly I don’t think there is much room for diplomacy at the moment.

    I think the most effective cause of action (and UK govt is taking this action) is really doing what you can to help Ukraine win. Without that, Russia is not gonna just give up to “save face”. Nothing they’ve done suggests they care about what it all looks like.

    I really think you have fallen for the hype and that what we are delivering is inconsequential to the outcome and in fairness I doubt we have the capacity to supply enough to change the outcome.

    I am not convinced that the USA is trying to help Ukraine win. IMHO they would be happy with an endless war that bled Russia dry.
    I think all help is valuable at this point.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Daughter has befriended a Ukraine war refugee in one of her classes.

    Quick chat between mum’s reveals she’s been put in with a family of……Russians.


    Apparently she had some kind of crisis when she first arrived and found that one out (can’t blame her) but main complaint is that they speak Russian in the house and so she’s struggling to learn English.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,269

    Daughter has befriended a Ukraine war refugee in one of her classes.

    Quick chat between mum’s reveals she’s been put in with a family of……Russians.


    Apparently she had some kind of crisis when she first arrived and found that one out (can’t blame her) but main complaint is that they speak Russian in the house and so she’s struggling to learn English.

    Seems odd at first glance, but fair play to the Russians to show that one nutter does not define an entire population.
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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,106
    General Sir Patrick Sanders took over from General Sir Mark Carleton Smith on Monday and wrote to his charges about the challenges they face.

    He told British soldiers they are the generation that must prepare "to fight in Europe once again" as the conflict in Ukraine continues.

    "There is now a burning imperative to forge an Army capable of fighting alongside our allies and defeating Russia in battle," Sir Patrick said.

    "We are the generation that must prepare the Army to fight in Europe once again," he added. I am the first Chief of the General Staff since 1941 to take command of the Army in the shadow of a land war in Europe involving a continental power.

    “Russia’s invasion of Ukraine underlines our core purpose — to protect the UK by being ready to fight and win wars on land.”
    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/british-soldiers-ready-fight-russia-world-war-3/
    A sobering thoughts.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited June 2022
    Its in the context of showing Russia that there is a strong capable NATO force in place, not actually going out looking for a scrap.

    Its the standard bumpf from head dhed taking over a new pid.

    Anyway, 3 PARA ain't going anywhere......
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,106
    That's good the hear Matt, I suppose it's his job to show strength and put out his stall.