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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Yup - I really wouldn't worry about it.

    They come out with the same schpiel everytime someone new gets appointed and nothing really ever happens because its such a massively disorganised inefficient organisation
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,106
    Britain's armed forces must be ready and willing to fight Russia in Europe, a former head of UK Special Forces warned today.

    General Sir Adrian Bradshaw, former director of Special Forces, said the UK must help Nato allies prevent giving Vladimir Putin 'an opening' to widen the war in Ukraine into a battle against the West.

    The former senior officer's intervention follows an extraordinary announcement by the new head of the British Army.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10933911/We-not-Putin-opening-Ex-SAS-chief-demands-Britain-prepares-fight-Europe.html
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Jingoistic Daily Heil rubbish. The geezer said that they have to build solid deterrance, not go looking for a scrap.

    This basically sums it up. Frickinidiots.


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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,480
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,691
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,106
    edited June 2022
    The tension keeps upping t1t for tat. I don't see this situation desalinating any time soon and inflation along with it.

    Tough times ahead.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,270
    It's a bit depressing but yes, enjoy your summer of 2022.
    Although my water is pretty good for now. 😉
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867

    The tension keeps upping t1t for tat. I don't see this situation desalinating any time soon and inflation along with it.

    Tough times ahead.

    @briantrumpet surely this is a crime against English?
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    De-escalated water never tastes the same, IMO...
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,248
    .

    The tension keeps upping t1t for tat. I don't see this situation desalinating any time soon and inflation along with it.

    Tough times ahead.

    @briantrumpet surely this is a crime against English?

    Paging Mrs Malaprop...
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,480

    The tension keeps upping t1t for tat. I don't see this situation desalinating any time soon and inflation along with it.

    Tough times ahead.

    @briantrumpet surely this is a crime against English?
    I assumed this was a reference to referring to things as 'salty'.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,106
    Pot pourri, bonjour.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    rjsterry said:

    The tension keeps upping t1t for tat. I don't see this situation desalinating any time soon and inflation along with it.

    Tough times ahead.

    @briantrumpet surely this is a crime against English?
    I assumed this was a reference to referring to things as 'salty'.

    I think you mean 'non-salty'....
  • HilaryAmin
    HilaryAmin Posts: 160
    There's not a lot to put on the stall however.

    A comparison of British forces with the Russian military that puts our posturing into context:

    https://www.forces.net/news/russia-vs-britain-how-do-militaries-stack

    We are nothing without NATO just as we are considerably downsized outside the EU.

  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,109

    There's not a lot to put on the stall however.

    A comparison of British forces with the Russian military that puts our posturing into context:

    https://www.forces.net/news/russia-vs-britain-how-do-militaries-stack

    We are nothing without NATO just as we are considerably downsized outside the EU.

    There's no common EU defence policy, and leaving it has made no difference to the UK militarily.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028

    There's not a lot to put on the stall however.

    A comparison of British forces with the Russian military that puts our posturing into context:

    https://www.forces.net/news/russia-vs-britain-how-do-militaries-stack

    We are nothing without NATO just as we are considerably downsized outside the EU.

    If the Ukraine conflict has shown us anything, it's demonstrated that there is a lot more to military effectiveness than simply sheer weight of numbers.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    What Ukraine has shown is we are still totally reliant on the US and if Trump was still president Ukraine would be totally f@cked
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867

    There's not a lot to put on the stall however.

    A comparison of British forces with the Russian military that puts our posturing into context:

    https://www.forces.net/news/russia-vs-britain-how-do-militaries-stack

    We are nothing without NATO just as we are considerably downsized outside the EU.

    NATO is irrelevant the only thing that matters is USA
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    US spends $800bn on defence a year. UK spends $57bn and the UK is one of the biggest military spenders in Europe. France spends about the same.

    So you'd only need the combined spending of Europe's two biggest spenders almost 8 times over to get to the US.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028

    US spends $800bn on defence a year. UK spends $57bn and the UK is one of the biggest military spenders in Europe. France spends about the same.

    So you'd only need the combined spending of Europe's two biggest spenders almost 8 times over to get to the US.

    Not sure what point you're trying to make. Ukraine's defence budget in 2021 amounted to just over $5bn. The Russians should have just rolled into Kyiv, but they didn't...
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,106
    Come on, a few more posts and my idiocy can be forgotten.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,109

    US spends $800bn on defence a year. UK spends $57bn and the UK is one of the biggest military spenders in Europe. France spends about the same.

    So you'd only need the combined spending of Europe's two biggest spenders almost 8 times over to get to the US.

    Proportional to GDP is a better comparison. US gdp is about 8 times that of the UK, and the population is 5 times, so the contrst isn't quite as stark as it seems.
  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,327

    Come on, a few more posts and my idiocy can be forgotten.

    or we could keep rubbing salt into the wound :smiley:
    my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,106
    sungod said:

    Come on, a few more posts and my idiocy can be forgotten.

    or we could keep rubbing salt into the wound :smiley:
    Please let this be a new page.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,106

    sungod said:

    Come on, a few more posts and my idiocy can be forgotten.

    or we could keep rubbing salt into the wound :smiley:
    Please let this be a new page.
    $h1t.
  • HilaryAmin
    HilaryAmin Posts: 160

    There's not a lot to put on the stall however.

    A comparison of British forces with the Russian military that puts our posturing into context:

    https://www.forces.net/news/russia-vs-britain-how-do-militaries-stack

    We are nothing without NATO just as we are considerably downsized outside the EU.

    There's no common EU defence policy, and leaving it has made no difference to the UK militarily.
    Military might costs money. If the UK economy is weakened by leaving our biggest trading partner then our spending power on defence must suffer too. There is also the issue of co-operation with our neighbours. Who'd buy even a used motor off Boris Johnson?

    https://www.forces.net/services/army/uks-delivery-saxons-ukraine-nothing-short-immoral

    As for the USA, who knows where that's going?



  • HilaryAmin
    HilaryAmin Posts: 160
    And what's with the salt thing?
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,106

    And what's with the salt thing?

    Oh, nothing.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,106

    And what's with the salt thing?

    Oh, nothing.
    Yep, definitely nothing.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,106
    edited June 2022

    And what's with the salt thing?

    Oh, nothing.
    Yep, definitely nothing.
    Chr1st, how many posts to a page.