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I will continue in the CS tradition and not read the article but based upon the bit you have quoted I don't think it is 100% seriousStevo_666 said:
More likely he doesn't like the article either and is trying to divert...MattFalle said:
because he knows that you're just trying to divert attention from the total failure that is de pffeffel.Stevo_666 said:
Why are you so uppity about me asking someone else a question? (Unless you're MF's spokesman)pangolin said:
No, as we've all made very clear we all support Russia. WTF are you on about?Stevo_666 said:
I was right about some people not liking itMattFalle said:
well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
Any thought about blaming the Russians for what they've done?0 -
It doesn't *need* to take a long time. It happens to take a long time here in the UK.rjsterry said:
If you have even tried to help out on a school trip, you will know that a DBS check is not instantaneous and is more than seeing if a name appears on a list. FWIW, I don't believe it is the DBS checks on the host family that are causing delays, but the processing of the visa applications.rick_chasey said:
So Germany has been pretty successful, but then they have the infrastructure to do this, as they have experience taking on refugees from Syria (remember all that outcry? Merkel had screwed the pooch? How times have changed, eh?) and bluntly, their checks take a matter of hours, because they have better infrastructure for that kind of thing.Dorset_Boy said:
We really don't have any idea whether other countries have managed to sort out the safeguarding issues. Even in more normal times obtaining a DBS clearance isn't a swift process, let alone when suddenly there is a substantially increased demand.rick_chasey said:
I have been pretty consistent that the UK immigration policy just hurts everyone, and I maintain that the troubles Ukrainian refugees are finding with trying to come to the UK are a feature of the overall policy not a bug.Dorset_Boy said:
Which is why there is the requirement for a DBS check, but some on here suggested such safeguards could / should be ignored.rick_chasey said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61311046
Homes for Ukraine: Housing scheme called danger to refugees
It is a shame that so many other countries have managed to sort this out but the UK can't or won't, but it is a reflection of the system that has been devised over many years to be difficult for exactly these kinds of people.
I don't know how the safeguarding situation can be improved to make it quick.
There were plenty of reports of groups of men looking to 'help' single female refugees as they escaped Ukraine.
I mean, all they're doing is checking names on a database, how long does that need to take?
It doesn't in Germany. These are choices the gov't makes. Priorities, if you will.0 -
rick_chasey said:
It doesn't *need* to take a long time. It happens to take a long time here in the UK.rjsterry said:
If you have even tried to help out on a school trip, you will know that a DBS check is not instantaneous and is more than seeing if a name appears on a list. FWIW, I don't believe it is the DBS checks on the host family that are causing delays, but the processing of the visa applications.rick_chasey said:
So Germany has been pretty successful, but then they have the infrastructure to do this, as they have experience taking on refugees from Syria (remember all that outcry? Merkel had screwed the pooch? How times have changed, eh?) and bluntly, their checks take a matter of hours, because they have better infrastructure for that kind of thing.Dorset_Boy said:
We really don't have any idea whether other countries have managed to sort out the safeguarding issues. Even in more normal times obtaining a DBS clearance isn't a swift process, let alone when suddenly there is a substantially increased demand.rick_chasey said:
I have been pretty consistent that the UK immigration policy just hurts everyone, and I maintain that the troubles Ukrainian refugees are finding with trying to come to the UK are a feature of the overall policy not a bug.Dorset_Boy said:
Which is why there is the requirement for a DBS check, but some on here suggested such safeguards could / should be ignored.rick_chasey said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61311046
Homes for Ukraine: Housing scheme called danger to refugees
It is a shame that so many other countries have managed to sort this out but the UK can't or won't, but it is a reflection of the system that has been devised over many years to be difficult for exactly these kinds of people.
I don't know how the safeguarding situation can be improved to make it quick.
There were plenty of reports of groups of men looking to 'help' single female refugees as they escaped Ukraine.
I mean, all they're doing is checking names on a database, how long does that need to take?
It doesn't in Germany. These are choices the gov't makes. Priorities, if you will.
I don't think the various ones I have done over the years have taken long, in some cases just days.0 -
its running about 6 weeks for the ones we have to do, but they are enhanced jobbies, not the basic ones.briantrumpet said:rick_chasey said:
It doesn't *need* to take a long time. It happens to take a long time here in the UK.rjsterry said:
If you have even tried to help out on a school trip, you will know that a DBS check is not instantaneous and is more than seeing if a name appears on a list. FWIW, I don't believe it is the DBS checks on the host family that are causing delays, but the processing of the visa applications.rick_chasey said:
So Germany has been pretty successful, but then they have the infrastructure to do this, as they have experience taking on refugees from Syria (remember all that outcry? Merkel had screwed the pooch? How times have changed, eh?) and bluntly, their checks take a matter of hours, because they have better infrastructure for that kind of thing.Dorset_Boy said:
We really don't have any idea whether other countries have managed to sort out the safeguarding issues. Even in more normal times obtaining a DBS clearance isn't a swift process, let alone when suddenly there is a substantially increased demand.rick_chasey said:
I have been pretty consistent that the UK immigration policy just hurts everyone, and I maintain that the troubles Ukrainian refugees are finding with trying to come to the UK are a feature of the overall policy not a bug.Dorset_Boy said:
Which is why there is the requirement for a DBS check, but some on here suggested such safeguards could / should be ignored.rick_chasey said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61311046
Homes for Ukraine: Housing scheme called danger to refugees
It is a shame that so many other countries have managed to sort this out but the UK can't or won't, but it is a reflection of the system that has been devised over many years to be difficult for exactly these kinds of people.
I don't know how the safeguarding situation can be improved to make it quick.
There were plenty of reports of groups of men looking to 'help' single female refugees as they escaped Ukraine.
I mean, all they're doing is checking names on a database, how long does that need to take?
It doesn't in Germany. These are choices the gov't makes. Priorities, if you will.
I don't think the various ones I have done over the years have taken long, in some cases just days.
although bizarrely, you would have thought that they would have set up a separate service for Ukraine related ones, slthough who knows why they possibly wouldn't have......The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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In terms of cost and opportunity cost this country has lost hundreds of billions of pounds why does anybody think they will not starve of resource any function that makes it easier for people to come here.
It would be barking mad to do otherwise0 -
MattFalle said:
its running about 6 weeks for the ones we have to do, but they are enhanced jobbies, not the basic ones.briantrumpet said:rick_chasey said:
It doesn't *need* to take a long time. It happens to take a long time here in the UK.rjsterry said:
If you have even tried to help out on a school trip, you will know that a DBS check is not instantaneous and is more than seeing if a name appears on a list. FWIW, I don't believe it is the DBS checks on the host family that are causing delays, but the processing of the visa applications.rick_chasey said:
So Germany has been pretty successful, but then they have the infrastructure to do this, as they have experience taking on refugees from Syria (remember all that outcry? Merkel had screwed the pooch? How times have changed, eh?) and bluntly, their checks take a matter of hours, because they have better infrastructure for that kind of thing.Dorset_Boy said:
We really don't have any idea whether other countries have managed to sort out the safeguarding issues. Even in more normal times obtaining a DBS clearance isn't a swift process, let alone when suddenly there is a substantially increased demand.rick_chasey said:
I have been pretty consistent that the UK immigration policy just hurts everyone, and I maintain that the troubles Ukrainian refugees are finding with trying to come to the UK are a feature of the overall policy not a bug.Dorset_Boy said:
Which is why there is the requirement for a DBS check, but some on here suggested such safeguards could / should be ignored.rick_chasey said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61311046
Homes for Ukraine: Housing scheme called danger to refugees
It is a shame that so many other countries have managed to sort this out but the UK can't or won't, but it is a reflection of the system that has been devised over many years to be difficult for exactly these kinds of people.
I don't know how the safeguarding situation can be improved to make it quick.
There were plenty of reports of groups of men looking to 'help' single female refugees as they escaped Ukraine.
I mean, all they're doing is checking names on a database, how long does that need to take?
It doesn't in Germany. These are choices the gov't makes. Priorities, if you will.
I don't think the various ones I have done over the years have taken long, in some cases just days.
although bizarrely, you would have thought that they would have set up a separate service for Ukraine related ones, slthough who knows why they possibly wouldn't have.....
I'm an enhanced jobbie too... maybe it's changed in recent years in how long it takes... I'm now on a recurring one, so haven't started from scratch for some time.0 -
Not true either. Given there is net migration into the UK, over 300K in 2020 and I think about 6.5 million EU citizens applied for residency. Add to that 30k boat people across the channel last year as well as people arriving in the back of lorries and cars.Stevo_666 said:
You could, but it's not relevant here.MattFalle said:
oh fair play then - its a fair cop.Dorset_Boy said:
You claimed the UK had kicked Ukrainians out of the UK as part of Brexit. As Ukraine is not an EU member, your statement was incorrect.MattFalle said:grazie!
so Brexit and the expulsion of people didn't happrn?
Good-o, the labour shortage must be down to something else thrn.
Glad that's been cleared up.
csn i change the statement to say "foreigners" then?
Hardly the face of a country that doesn't welcome foreigners.
(I'm not British so I don't care how many people immigrate , the more the merrier)BASI Nordic Ski Instructor
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It takes ages these days, at least up here.briantrumpet said:MattFalle said:
its running about 6 weeks for the ones we have to do, but they are enhanced jobbies, not the basic ones.briantrumpet said:rick_chasey said:
It doesn't *need* to take a long time. It happens to take a long time here in the UK.rjsterry said:
If you have even tried to help out on a school trip, you will know that a DBS check is not instantaneous and is more than seeing if a name appears on a list. FWIW, I don't believe it is the DBS checks on the host family that are causing delays, but the processing of the visa applications.rick_chasey said:
So Germany has been pretty successful, but then they have the infrastructure to do this, as they have experience taking on refugees from Syria (remember all that outcry? Merkel had screwed the pooch? How times have changed, eh?) and bluntly, their checks take a matter of hours, because they have better infrastructure for that kind of thing.Dorset_Boy said:
We really don't have any idea whether other countries have managed to sort out the safeguarding issues. Even in more normal times obtaining a DBS clearance isn't a swift process, let alone when suddenly there is a substantially increased demand.rick_chasey said:
I have been pretty consistent that the UK immigration policy just hurts everyone, and I maintain that the troubles Ukrainian refugees are finding with trying to come to the UK are a feature of the overall policy not a bug.Dorset_Boy said:
Which is why there is the requirement for a DBS check, but some on here suggested such safeguards could / should be ignored.rick_chasey said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61311046
Homes for Ukraine: Housing scheme called danger to refugees
It is a shame that so many other countries have managed to sort this out but the UK can't or won't, but it is a reflection of the system that has been devised over many years to be difficult for exactly these kinds of people.
I don't know how the safeguarding situation can be improved to make it quick.
There were plenty of reports of groups of men looking to 'help' single female refugees as they escaped Ukraine.
I mean, all they're doing is checking names on a database, how long does that need to take?
It doesn't in Germany. These are choices the gov't makes. Priorities, if you will.
I don't think the various ones I have done over the years have taken long, in some cases just days.
although bizarrely, you would have thought that they would have set up a separate service for Ukraine related ones, slthough who knows why they possibly wouldn't have.....
I'm an enhanced jobbie too... maybe it's changed in recent years in how long it takes... I'm now on a recurring one, so haven't started from scratch for some time.
Just so you know, this is an enhanced jobbie->
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I had to renew from scratch last year. It was painful and took weeks to process but was during a pandemic.briantrumpet said:MattFalle said:
its running about 6 weeks for the ones we have to do, but they are enhanced jobbies, not the basic ones.briantrumpet said:rick_chasey said:
It doesn't *need* to take a long time. It happens to take a long time here in the UK.rjsterry said:
If you have even tried to help out on a school trip, you will know that a DBS check is not instantaneous and is more than seeing if a name appears on a list. FWIW, I don't believe it is the DBS checks on the host family that are causing delays, but the processing of the visa applications.rick_chasey said:
So Germany has been pretty successful, but then they have the infrastructure to do this, as they have experience taking on refugees from Syria (remember all that outcry? Merkel had screwed the pooch? How times have changed, eh?) and bluntly, their checks take a matter of hours, because they have better infrastructure for that kind of thing.Dorset_Boy said:
We really don't have any idea whether other countries have managed to sort out the safeguarding issues. Even in more normal times obtaining a DBS clearance isn't a swift process, let alone when suddenly there is a substantially increased demand.rick_chasey said:
I have been pretty consistent that the UK immigration policy just hurts everyone, and I maintain that the troubles Ukrainian refugees are finding with trying to come to the UK are a feature of the overall policy not a bug.Dorset_Boy said:
Which is why there is the requirement for a DBS check, but some on here suggested such safeguards could / should be ignored.rick_chasey said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61311046
Homes for Ukraine: Housing scheme called danger to refugees
It is a shame that so many other countries have managed to sort this out but the UK can't or won't, but it is a reflection of the system that has been devised over many years to be difficult for exactly these kinds of people.
I don't know how the safeguarding situation can be improved to make it quick.
There were plenty of reports of groups of men looking to 'help' single female refugees as they escaped Ukraine.
I mean, all they're doing is checking names on a database, how long does that need to take?
It doesn't in Germany. These are choices the gov't makes. Priorities, if you will.
I don't think the various ones I have done over the years have taken long, in some cases just days.
although bizarrely, you would have thought that they would have set up a separate service for Ukraine related ones, slthough who knows why they possibly wouldn't have.....
I'm an enhanced jobbie too... maybe it's changed in recent years in how long it takes... I'm now on a recurring one, so haven't started from scratch for some time.
It involved completing forms in triplicate with lots of repetition. All of which I would have presumed to be on a database somewhere. Obviously it isn't.
I find films funny when it comes to this kind of thing.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
ddraver said:
I've just done an enhanced one and it seems to have been fairly easy. The big problem I have is putting 5 years of seasonal nomadism address history in.
Expensive though, more even than Switzerland!!
It's well worth paying for the annual update, IMHO. One of the organisations I work for paid for the original, and I pay about £17pa so it never runs out. You have to apply within 8 weeks of getting the original... you can't do it when it's about to run out.0 -
I guess you don't have many opportunities to male light of a situation like Ukraine. This was one of them. Sadly it involved breaking a Cake Stop rule and giving BJ some credit.surrey_commuter said:
I will continue in the CS tradition and not read the article but based upon the bit you have quoted I don't think it is 100% seriousStevo_666 said:
More likely he doesn't like the article either and is trying to divert...MattFalle said:
because he knows that you're just trying to divert attention from the total failure that is de pffeffel.Stevo_666 said:
Why are you so uppity about me asking someone else a question? (Unless you're MF's spokesman)pangolin said:
No, as we've all made very clear we all support Russia. WTF are you on about?Stevo_666 said:
I was right about some people not liking itMattFalle said:
well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
Any thought about blaming the Russians for what they've done?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
still trying to work out what credit he deserves.Stevo_666 said:
I guess you don't have many opportunities to male light of a situation like Ukraine. This was one of them. Sadly it involved breaking a Cake Stop rule and giving BJ some credit.surrey_commuter said:
I will continue in the CS tradition and not read the article but based upon the bit you have quoted I don't think it is 100% seriousStevo_666 said:
More likely he doesn't like the article either and is trying to divert...MattFalle said:
because he knows that you're just trying to divert attention from the total failure that is de pffeffel.Stevo_666 said:
Why are you so uppity about me asking someone else a question? (Unless you're MF's spokesman)pangolin said:
No, as we've all made very clear we all support Russia. WTF are you on about?Stevo_666 said:
I was right about some people not liking itMattFalle said:
well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
Any thought about blaming the Russians for what they've done?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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It's not relevant to the discussion on the Ukriane is what I was saying, although agree that it is contrary to some of the slightly skewed views that we see on here.davidof said:
Not true either. Given there is net migration into the UK, over 300K in 2020 and I think about 6.5 million EU citizens applied for residency. Add to that 30k boat people across the channel last year as well as people arriving in the back of lorries and cars.Stevo_666 said:
You could, but it's not relevant here.MattFalle said:
oh fair play then - its a fair cop.Dorset_Boy said:
You claimed the UK had kicked Ukrainians out of the UK as part of Brexit. As Ukraine is not an EU member, your statement was incorrect.MattFalle said:grazie!
so Brexit and the expulsion of people didn't happrn?
Good-o, the labour shortage must be down to something else thrn.
Glad that's been cleared up.
csn i change the statement to say "foreigners" then?
Hardly the face of a country that doesn't welcome foreigners.
(I'm not British so I don't care how many people immigrate , the more the merrier)"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I often seem to touch Pango's nerve for some reason. Without trying.briantrumpet said:MattFalle said:
because he knows that you're just trying to divert attention from the total failure that is de pffeffel.Stevo_666 said:
Why are you so uppity about me asking someone else a question? (Unless you're MF's spokesman)pangolin said:
No, as we've all made very clear we all support Russia. WTF are you on about?Stevo_666 said:
I was right about some people not liking itMattFalle said:
well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
Any thought about blaming the Russians for what they've done?
Touched a nerve, I suspect."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Indeed, but it's not a problem with the DBS system.rick_chasey said:
It doesn't *need* to take a long time. It happens to take a long time here in the UK.rjsterry said:
If you have even tried to help out on a school trip, you will know that a DBS check is not instantaneous and is more than seeing if a name appears on a list. FWIW, I don't believe it is the DBS checks on the host family that are causing delays, but the processing of the visa applications.rick_chasey said:
So Germany has been pretty successful, but then they have the infrastructure to do this, as they have experience taking on refugees from Syria (remember all that outcry? Merkel had screwed the pooch? How times have changed, eh?) and bluntly, their checks take a matter of hours, because they have better infrastructure for that kind of thing.Dorset_Boy said:
We really don't have any idea whether other countries have managed to sort out the safeguarding issues. Even in more normal times obtaining a DBS clearance isn't a swift process, let alone when suddenly there is a substantially increased demand.rick_chasey said:
I have been pretty consistent that the UK immigration policy just hurts everyone, and I maintain that the troubles Ukrainian refugees are finding with trying to come to the UK are a feature of the overall policy not a bug.Dorset_Boy said:
Which is why there is the requirement for a DBS check, but some on here suggested such safeguards could / should be ignored.rick_chasey said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61311046
Homes for Ukraine: Housing scheme called danger to refugees
It is a shame that so many other countries have managed to sort this out but the UK can't or won't, but it is a reflection of the system that has been devised over many years to be difficult for exactly these kinds of people.
I don't know how the safeguarding situation can be improved to make it quick.
There were plenty of reports of groups of men looking to 'help' single female refugees as they escaped Ukraine.
I mean, all they're doing is checking names on a database, how long does that need to take?
It doesn't in Germany. These are choices the gov't makes. Priorities, if you will.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Problem is, if you make database access that easy in this country you'll have some Terry Fuckwit moaning about how it is a breach of his civil liberties that so much information is available at the touch of a button to a civil servant (you know the type, we've had a few on here over the years!).rick_chasey said:
So Germany has been pretty successful, but then they have the infrastructure to do this, as they have experience taking on refugees from Syria (remember all that outcry? Merkel had screwed the pooch? How times have changed, eh?) and bluntly, their checks take a matter of hours, because they have better infrastructure for that kind of thing.Dorset_Boy said:
We really don't have any idea whether other countries have managed to sort out the safeguarding issues. Even in more normal times obtaining a DBS clearance isn't a swift process, let alone when suddenly there is a substantially increased demand.rick_chasey said:
I have been pretty consistent that the UK immigration policy just hurts everyone, and I maintain that the troubles Ukrainian refugees are finding with trying to come to the UK are a feature of the overall policy not a bug.Dorset_Boy said:
Which is why there is the requirement for a DBS check, but some on here suggested such safeguards could / should be ignored.rick_chasey said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61311046
Homes for Ukraine: Housing scheme called danger to refugees
It is a shame that so many other countries have managed to sort this out but the UK can't or won't, but it is a reflection of the system that has been devised over many years to be difficult for exactly these kinds of people.
I don't know how the safeguarding situation can be improved to make it quick.
There were plenty of reports of groups of men looking to 'help' single female refugees as they escaped Ukraine.
I mean, all they're doing is checking names on a database, how long does that need to take?0 -
Can you give us all some examples of Johnson's bravery then please?Stevo_666 said:
I guess you don't have many opportunities to male light of a situation like Ukraine. This was one of them. Sadly it involved breaking a Cake Stop rule and giving BJ some credit.surrey_commuter said:
I will continue in the CS tradition and not read the article but based upon the bit you have quoted I don't think it is 100% seriousStevo_666 said:
More likely he doesn't like the article either and is trying to divert...MattFalle said:
because he knows that you're just trying to divert attention from the total failure that is de pffeffel.Stevo_666 said:
Why are you so uppity about me asking someone else a question? (Unless you're MF's spokesman)pangolin said:
No, as we've all made very clear we all support Russia. WTF are you on about?Stevo_666 said:
I was right about some people not liking itMattFalle said:
well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
Any thought about blaming the Russians for what they've done?0 -
It did amuse me he walked around Kiev without wearing any protection but the week before when he walked around Liverpool he wore a stab vest.Pross said:
Can you give us all some examples of Johnson's bravery then please?Stevo_666 said:
I guess you don't have many opportunities to male light of a situation like Ukraine. This was one of them. Sadly it involved breaking a Cake Stop rule and giving BJ some credit.surrey_commuter said:
I will continue in the CS tradition and not read the article but based upon the bit you have quoted I don't think it is 100% seriousStevo_666 said:
More likely he doesn't like the article either and is trying to divert...MattFalle said:
because he knows that you're just trying to divert attention from the total failure that is de pffeffel.Stevo_666 said:
Why are you so uppity about me asking someone else a question? (Unless you're MF's spokesman)pangolin said:
No, as we've all made very clear we all support Russia. WTF are you on about?Stevo_666 said:
I was right about some people not liking itMattFalle said:
well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
Any thought about blaming the Russians for what they've done?0 -
Reflective of his popularity in the respective areas?rick_chasey said:
It did amuse me he walked around Kiev without wearing any protection but the week before when he walked around Liverpool he wore a stab vest.Pross said:
Can you give us all some examples of Johnson's bravery then please?Stevo_666 said:
I guess you don't have many opportunities to male light of a situation like Ukraine. This was one of them. Sadly it involved breaking a Cake Stop rule and giving BJ some credit.surrey_commuter said:
I will continue in the CS tradition and not read the article but based upon the bit you have quoted I don't think it is 100% seriousStevo_666 said:
More likely he doesn't like the article either and is trying to divert...MattFalle said:
because he knows that you're just trying to divert attention from the total failure that is de pffeffel.Stevo_666 said:
Why are you so uppity about me asking someone else a question? (Unless you're MF's spokesman)pangolin said:
No, as we've all made very clear we all support Russia. WTF are you on about?Stevo_666 said:
I was right about some people not liking itMattFalle said:
well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
Any thought about blaming the Russians for what they've done?The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Have you ever been to Liverpool?!rick_chasey said:
It did amuse me he walked around Kiev without wearing any protection but the week before when he walked around Liverpool he wore a stab vest.Pross said:
Can you give us all some examples of Johnson's bravery then please?Stevo_666 said:
I guess you don't have many opportunities to male light of a situation like Ukraine. This was one of them. Sadly it involved breaking a Cake Stop rule and giving BJ some credit.surrey_commuter said:
I will continue in the CS tradition and not read the article but based upon the bit you have quoted I don't think it is 100% seriousStevo_666 said:
More likely he doesn't like the article either and is trying to divert...MattFalle said:
because he knows that you're just trying to divert attention from the total failure that is de pffeffel.Stevo_666 said:
Why are you so uppity about me asking someone else a question? (Unless you're MF's spokesman)pangolin said:
No, as we've all made very clear we all support Russia. WTF are you on about?Stevo_666 said:
I was right about some people not liking itMattFalle said:
well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
Any thought about blaming the Russians for what they've done?
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Ask the people whom are praising him. I simply quoted them.Pross said:
Can you give us all some examples of Johnson's bravery then please?Stevo_666 said:
I guess you don't have many opportunities to male light of a situation like Ukraine. This was one of them. Sadly it involved breaking a Cake Stop rule and giving BJ some credit.surrey_commuter said:
I will continue in the CS tradition and not read the article but based upon the bit you have quoted I don't think it is 100% seriousStevo_666 said:
More likely he doesn't like the article either and is trying to divert...MattFalle said:
because he knows that you're just trying to divert attention from the total failure that is de pffeffel.Stevo_666 said:
Why are you so uppity about me asking someone else a question? (Unless you're MF's spokesman)pangolin said:
No, as we've all made very clear we all support Russia. WTF are you on about?Stevo_666 said:
I was right about some people not liking itMattFalle said:
well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
Any thought about blaming the Russians for what they've done?
Definitely an unpopular article..."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Fair pointDorset_Boy said:
Have you ever been to Liverpool?!rick_chasey said:
It did amuse me he walked around Kiev without wearing any protection but the week before when he walked around Liverpool he wore a stab vest.Pross said:
Can you give us all some examples of Johnson's bravery then please?Stevo_666 said:
I guess you don't have many opportunities to male light of a situation like Ukraine. This was one of them. Sadly it involved breaking a Cake Stop rule and giving BJ some credit.surrey_commuter said:
I will continue in the CS tradition and not read the article but based upon the bit you have quoted I don't think it is 100% seriousStevo_666 said:
More likely he doesn't like the article either and is trying to divert...MattFalle said:
because he knows that you're just trying to divert attention from the total failure that is de pffeffel.Stevo_666 said:
Why are you so uppity about me asking someone else a question? (Unless you're MF's spokesman)pangolin said:
No, as we've all made very clear we all support Russia. WTF are you on about?Stevo_666 said:
I was right about some people not liking itMattFalle said:
well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
Any thought about blaming the Russians for what they've done? "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
The credit those Ukrainians gave him? Speak to them if you disagree.MattFalle said:
still trying to work out what credit he deserves.Stevo_666 said:
I guess you don't have many opportunities to male light of a situation like Ukraine. This was one of them. Sadly it involved breaking a Cake Stop rule and giving BJ some credit.surrey_commuter said:
I will continue in the CS tradition and not read the article but based upon the bit you have quoted I don't think it is 100% seriousStevo_666 said:
More likely he doesn't like the article either and is trying to divert...MattFalle said:
because he knows that you're just trying to divert attention from the total failure that is de pffeffel.Stevo_666 said:
Why are you so uppity about me asking someone else a question? (Unless you're MF's spokesman)pangolin said:
No, as we've all made very clear we all support Russia. WTF are you on about?Stevo_666 said:
I was right about some people not liking itMattFalle said:
well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
Any thought about blaming the Russians for what they've done?
Like I said, I'm breaking a Cake Stop rule here and it seems to cause a bit of distress. Hey ho "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Ah OK, as you keep mentioning it I assume you agreed with their point of view and would be able to give examples.Stevo_666 said:
Ask the people whom are praising him. I simply quoted them.Pross said:
Can you give us all some examples of Johnson's bravery then please?Stevo_666 said:
I guess you don't have many opportunities to male light of a situation like Ukraine. This was one of them. Sadly it involved breaking a Cake Stop rule and giving BJ some credit.surrey_commuter said:
I will continue in the CS tradition and not read the article but based upon the bit you have quoted I don't think it is 100% seriousStevo_666 said:
More likely he doesn't like the article either and is trying to divert...MattFalle said:
because he knows that you're just trying to divert attention from the total failure that is de pffeffel.Stevo_666 said:
Why are you so uppity about me asking someone else a question? (Unless you're MF's spokesman)pangolin said:
No, as we've all made very clear we all support Russia. WTF are you on about?Stevo_666 said:
I was right about some people not liking itMattFalle said:
well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
Any thought about blaming the Russians for what they've done?
Definitely an unpopular article...0 -
Would it have been safer with no visa system?rick_chasey said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61311046
Homes for Ukraine: Housing scheme called danger to refugees0 -
It is interesting that the “they could be rapists and criminals” discourse has flipped to the hosts for this particular conflict.0
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Hard facts and indisputable evidence thenStevo_666 said:
Ask the people whom are praising him. I simply quoted them.Pross said:
Can you give us all some examples of Johnson's bravery then please?Stevo_666 said:
I guess you don't have many opportunities to male light of a situation like Ukraine. This was one of them. Sadly it involved breaking a Cake Stop rule and giving BJ some credit.surrey_commuter said:
I will continue in the CS tradition and not read the article but based upon the bit you have quoted I don't think it is 100% seriousStevo_666 said:
More likely he doesn't like the article either and is trying to divert...MattFalle said:
because he knows that you're just trying to divert attention from the total failure that is de pffeffel.Stevo_666 said:
Why are you so uppity about me asking someone else a question? (Unless you're MF's spokesman)pangolin said:
No, as we've all made very clear we all support Russia. WTF are you on about?Stevo_666 said:
I was right about some people not liking itMattFalle said:
well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
Any thought about blaming the Russians for what they've done?
Definitely an unpopular article...0 -
Good try...Pross said:
Ah OK, as you keep mentioning it I assume you agreed with their point of view and would be able to give examples.Stevo_666 said:
Ask the people whom are praising him. I simply quoted them.Pross said:
Can you give us all some examples of Johnson's bravery then please?Stevo_666 said:
I guess you don't have many opportunities to male light of a situation like Ukraine. This was one of them. Sadly it involved breaking a Cake Stop rule and giving BJ some credit.surrey_commuter said:
I will continue in the CS tradition and not read the article but based upon the bit you have quoted I don't think it is 100% seriousStevo_666 said:
More likely he doesn't like the article either and is trying to divert...MattFalle said:
because he knows that you're just trying to divert attention from the total failure that is de pffeffel.Stevo_666 said:
Why are you so uppity about me asking someone else a question? (Unless you're MF's spokesman)pangolin said:
No, as we've all made very clear we all support Russia. WTF are you on about?Stevo_666 said:
I was right about some people not liking itMattFalle said:
well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
Any thought about blaming the Russians for what they've done?
Definitely an unpopular article..."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
It's an article with peoples views, in case you're having trouble telling the difference.monkimark said:Hard facts and indisputable evidence then
Stevo_666 said:
Ask the people whom are praising him. I simply quoted them.Pross said:
Can you give us all some examples of Johnson's bravery then please?Stevo_666 said:
I guess you don't have many opportunities to male light of a situation like Ukraine. This was one of them. Sadly it involved breaking a Cake Stop rule and giving BJ some credit.surrey_commuter said:
I will continue in the CS tradition and not read the article but based upon the bit you have quoted I don't think it is 100% seriousStevo_666 said:
More likely he doesn't like the article either and is trying to divert...MattFalle said:
because he knows that you're just trying to divert attention from the total failure that is de pffeffel.Stevo_666 said:
Why are you so uppity about me asking someone else a question? (Unless you're MF's spokesman)pangolin said:
No, as we've all made very clear we all support Russia. WTF are you on about?Stevo_666 said:
I was right about some people not liking itMattFalle said:
well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
Any thought about blaming the Russians for what they've done?
Definitely an unpopular article..."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
