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Don't think MF was lying, probably mistaken.davidof said:
I guess nobody wants to back their nonsense but look, you knew it was lies so why bother asking?Stevo_666 said:
Not sure how that is relevant to my question."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Well looks like our prospective refugee family has gone away, no contact with the charity for around a week despite the offer of making contact. But same charity has put forward the name of another possibility, a young-ish architect from Kharkiv who is already in the UK but has to find a new sponsor because her current one has been sectioned (!) Currently in temp accommodation but not far away so we are going to meet her face to face on Saturday."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]3
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good lord...PMark said:A leader like Putin with declining health can be very danagerous. So if he is still around in 2 years, I would much rather have Trump in the whitehouse as he is probably the only world leader which could talk Putin down from all out war, if it came to that.
Of course more sensible people in Russia could use his health to take power from Putin, come back to the table and start withdrawing troops, thereby allowing the west to start opening up relations/trade with Russia.0 -
what wss lies/mistsken?Stevo_666 said:.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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About kicking people from a non-EU country out of the UKMattFalle said:"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
grazie!
so Brexit and the expulsion of people didn't happrn?
Good-o, the labour shortage must be down to something else thrn.
Glad that's been cleared up..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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You claimed the UK had kicked Ukrainians out of the UK as part of Brexit. As Ukraine is not an EU member, your statement was incorrect.MattFalle said:grazie!
so Brexit and the expulsion of people didn't happrn?
Good-o, the labour shortage must be down to something else thrn.
Glad that's been cleared up.0 -
Which is why there is the requirement for a DBS check, but some on here suggested such safeguards could / should be ignored.rick_chasey said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61311046
Homes for Ukraine: Housing scheme called danger to refugees0 -
I have been pretty consistent that the UK immigration policy just hurts everyone, and I maintain that the troubles Ukrainian refugees are finding with trying to come to the UK are a feature of the overall policy not a bug.Dorset_Boy said:
Which is why there is the requirement for a DBS check, but some on here suggested such safeguards could / should be ignored.rick_chasey said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61311046
Homes for Ukraine: Housing scheme called danger to refugees
It is a shame that so many other countries have managed to sort this out but the UK can't or won't, but it is a reflection of the system that has been devised over many years to be difficult for exactly these kinds of people.0 -
oh fair play then - its a fair cop.Dorset_Boy said:
You claimed the UK had kicked Ukrainians out of the UK as part of Brexit. As Ukraine is not an EU member, your statement was incorrect.MattFalle said:grazie!
so Brexit and the expulsion of people didn't happrn?
Good-o, the labour shortage must be down to something else thrn.
Glad that's been cleared up.
csn i change the statement to say "foreigners" then?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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We really don't have any idea whether other countries have managed to sort out the safeguarding issues. Even in more normal times obtaining a DBS clearance isn't a swift process, let alone when suddenly there is a substantially increased demand.rick_chasey said:
I have been pretty consistent that the UK immigration policy just hurts everyone, and I maintain that the troubles Ukrainian refugees are finding with trying to come to the UK are a feature of the overall policy not a bug.Dorset_Boy said:
Which is why there is the requirement for a DBS check, but some on here suggested such safeguards could / should be ignored.rick_chasey said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61311046
Homes for Ukraine: Housing scheme called danger to refugees
It is a shame that so many other countries have managed to sort this out but the UK can't or won't, but it is a reflection of the system that has been devised over many years to be difficult for exactly these kinds of people.
I don't know how the safeguarding situation can be improved to make it quick.
There were plenty of reports of groups of men looking to 'help' single female refugees as they escaped Ukraine.
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Exactly.Dorset_Boy said:
You claimed the UK had kicked Ukrainians out of the UK as part of Brexit. As Ukraine is not an EU member, your statement was incorrect.MattFalle said:grazie!
so Brexit and the expulsion of people didn't happrn?
Good-o, the labour shortage must be down to something else thrn.
Glad that's been cleared up."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
You could, but it's not relevant here.MattFalle said:
oh fair play then - its a fair cop.Dorset_Boy said:
You claimed the UK had kicked Ukrainians out of the UK as part of Brexit. As Ukraine is not an EU member, your statement was incorrect.MattFalle said:grazie!
so Brexit and the expulsion of people didn't happrn?
Good-o, the labour shortage must be down to something else thrn.
Glad that's been cleared up.
csn i change the statement to say "foreigners" then?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
So Germany has been pretty successful, but then they have the infrastructure to do this, as they have experience taking on refugees from Syria (remember all that outcry? Merkel had screwed the pooch? How times have changed, eh?) and bluntly, their checks take a matter of hours, because they have better infrastructure for that kind of thing.Dorset_Boy said:
We really don't have any idea whether other countries have managed to sort out the safeguarding issues. Even in more normal times obtaining a DBS clearance isn't a swift process, let alone when suddenly there is a substantially increased demand.rick_chasey said:
I have been pretty consistent that the UK immigration policy just hurts everyone, and I maintain that the troubles Ukrainian refugees are finding with trying to come to the UK are a feature of the overall policy not a bug.Dorset_Boy said:
Which is why there is the requirement for a DBS check, but some on here suggested such safeguards could / should be ignored.rick_chasey said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61311046
Homes for Ukraine: Housing scheme called danger to refugees
It is a shame that so many other countries have managed to sort this out but the UK can't or won't, but it is a reflection of the system that has been devised over many years to be difficult for exactly these kinds of people.
I don't know how the safeguarding situation can be improved to make it quick.
There were plenty of reports of groups of men looking to 'help' single female refugees as they escaped Ukraine.
I mean, all they're doing is checking names on a database, how long does that need to take?0 -
Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I have sympathy for your point but the truth of the matter is that there is a deluge of people needing safety checks at the moment. They simply can't cope, and probably need to check any potential additional staff 🤔 just adding to the problem.rick_chasey said:
It is a shame that so many other countries have managed to sort this out but the UK can't or won't, but it is a reflection of the system that has been devised over many years to be difficult for exactly these kinds of people.
This is also the reason that airports are currently understaffed as an example.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
If you have even tried to help out on a school trip, you will know that a DBS check is not instantaneous and is more than seeing if a name appears on a list. FWIW, I don't believe it is the DBS checks on the host family that are causing delays, but the processing of the visa applications.rick_chasey said:
So Germany has been pretty successful, but then they have the infrastructure to do this, as they have experience taking on refugees from Syria (remember all that outcry? Merkel had screwed the pooch? How times have changed, eh?) and bluntly, their checks take a matter of hours, because they have better infrastructure for that kind of thing.Dorset_Boy said:
We really don't have any idea whether other countries have managed to sort out the safeguarding issues. Even in more normal times obtaining a DBS clearance isn't a swift process, let alone when suddenly there is a substantially increased demand.rick_chasey said:
I have been pretty consistent that the UK immigration policy just hurts everyone, and I maintain that the troubles Ukrainian refugees are finding with trying to come to the UK are a feature of the overall policy not a bug.Dorset_Boy said:
Which is why there is the requirement for a DBS check, but some on here suggested such safeguards could / should be ignored.rick_chasey said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61311046
Homes for Ukraine: Housing scheme called danger to refugees
It is a shame that so many other countries have managed to sort this out but the UK can't or won't, but it is a reflection of the system that has been devised over many years to be difficult for exactly these kinds of people.
I don't know how the safeguarding situation can be improved to make it quick.
There were plenty of reports of groups of men looking to 'help' single female refugees as they escaped Ukraine.
I mean, all they're doing is checking names on a database, how long does that need to take?1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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It's a Catch-22. If they relax the DBS checks, Rick would be complaining about the govt not safeguarding refugees: if they keep them, he'll be complaining about how long the process takes.Dorset_Boy said:
Which is why there is the requirement for a DBS check, but some on here suggested such safeguards could / should be ignored.rick_chasey said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61311046
Homes for Ukraine: Housing scheme called danger to refugees"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Not sure of the rules on working, but there are a few practices advertising for architectural staff at the moment.Stevo_666 said:Well looks like our prospective refugee family has gone away, no contact with the charity for around a week despite the offer of making contact. But same charity has put forward the name of another possibility, a young-ish architect from Kharkiv who is already in the UK but has to find a new sponsor because her current one has been sectioned (!) Currently in temp accommodation but not far away so we are going to meet her face to face on Saturday.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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I am confused, can somebody give me a brief summary of the argument that we are welcoming to refugees/immigrants0
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well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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well, yeah itis, but lets not digress.Stevo_666 said:
You could, but it's not relevant here.MattFalle said:
oh fair play then - its a fair cop.Dorset_Boy said:
You claimed the UK had kicked Ukrainians out of the UK as part of Brexit. As Ukraine is not an EU member, your statement was incorrect.MattFalle said:grazie!
so Brexit and the expulsion of people didn't happrn?
Good-o, the labour shortage must be down to something else thrn.
Glad that's been cleared up.
csn i change the statement to say "foreigners" then?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I was right about some people not liking itMattFalle said:
well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
Any thought about blaming the Russians for what they've done?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
No, as we've all made very clear we all support Russia. WTF are you on about?Stevo_666 said:
I was right about some people not liking itMattFalle said:
well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
Any thought about blaming the Russians for what they've done?
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Why are you so uppity about me asking someone else a question? (Unless you're MF's spokesman)pangolin said:
No, as we've all made very clear we all support Russia. WTF are you on about?Stevo_666 said:
I was right about some people not liking itMattFalle said:
well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
Any thought about blaming the Russians for what they've done?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
i may have expressed my sentiments ref the Russians in posts passim..... generally ends with the words #fukk'emStevo_666 said:
I was right about some people not liking itMattFalle said:
well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
Any thought about blaming the Russians for what they've done?
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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because he knows that you're just trying to divert attention from the total failure that is de pffeffel.Stevo_666 said:
Why are you so uppity about me asking someone else a question? (Unless you're MF's spokesman)pangolin said:
No, as we've all made very clear we all support Russia. WTF are you on about?Stevo_666 said:
I was right about some people not liking itMattFalle said:
well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
Any thought about blaming the Russians for what they've done?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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MattFalle said:
because he knows that you're just trying to divert attention from the total failure that is de pffeffel.Stevo_666 said:
Why are you so uppity about me asking someone else a question? (Unless you're MF's spokesman)pangolin said:
No, as we've all made very clear we all support Russia. WTF are you on about?Stevo_666 said:
I was right about some people not liking itMattFalle said:
well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
Any thought about blaming the Russians for what they've done?
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More likely he doesn't like the article either and is trying to divert...MattFalle said:
because he knows that you're just trying to divert attention from the total failure that is de pffeffel.Stevo_666 said:
Why are you so uppity about me asking someone else a question? (Unless you're MF's spokesman)pangolin said:
No, as we've all made very clear we all support Russia. WTF are you on about?Stevo_666 said:
I was right about some people not liking itMattFalle said:
well he's not exactly going to say "well, thanks for doingfuck all since Russia invaded Crimea, and you've apologised for doing so, so at least my daughter who hss been raped by Russian soldiers will be consoled, but yeah, now that our country has been destroyed we'd better pay lip service to your PM".Stevo_666 said:Some people on here might not like this
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/05/03/residents-boris-johnson-street-ukraine-revere-brave-clever-man/
Quote from a resident of Boris Johnson Street:
“I heard that your Prime Minister’s speech was coming up, and yes, I certainly want to listen,” Alex Lerner, 62, told The Telegraph. “He is a very strong and clever and brave man. It is wonderful that this street has been named after him, as it is important for us Ukrainians to know not just our own heroes, but those from overseas who helped our country.”
Any thought about blaming the Russians for what they've done?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
