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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,280
    It could equally be argued that Putin was emboldened by no open support for Ukraine after the Crimea invasion.
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  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    surrey_commuter said:

    shirley_basso said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    MattFalle said:

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ukraine-spent-seven-years-begging-three-pms-for-weapons-and-no-one-listened-58t5m9kkq

    That's a very long article with no explanation, have you been taking tip from Rick? ;)

    For some reason I can't see the bit that answers my question above about your claim that Boris forced all citizens of a non-EU country to leave the UK. Can you quote the relevant part?
    Since Russia invaded Crimea the UK Govt has refused to sell arms to Ukraine. As FS and PM Boris was central to that policy since 2016.
    Genuine question: When did the UK start training Ukranian troops?

    Not that I am remotely an apologist for this government, but is there a diplomatic reason not to sell arms, in order to not further antagonise Russia at the time, who seemed to have stopped progressing their invasion?
    In the Times article referenced above it says about to weeks before the current invasion.

    It is no secret it is all in speeches and appearances before select committees.

    I get the bit about not antagonising the Russians but that does not fit the narrative of Boris being a long-term staunch ally.
    Thanks. For some reason in my head I had it as way longer than that.

    Agree about the Boris-Russia ally - I was trying to give the benefit of the doubt.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,295
    surrey_commuter said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    MattFalle said:

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ukraine-spent-seven-years-begging-three-pms-for-weapons-and-no-one-listened-58t5m9kkq

    That's a very long article with no explanation, have you been taking tip from Rick? ;)

    For some reason I can't see the bit that answers my question above about your claim that Boris forced all citizens of a non-EU country to leave the UK. Can you quote the relevant part?
    Since Russia invaded Crimea the UK Govt has refused to sell arms to Ukraine. As FS and PM Boris was central to that policy since 2016.
    Not sure how that is relevant to my question.
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    What was your question again?
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  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,114
    edited May 2022
    Stevo_666 said:



    Not sure how that is relevant to my question.

    I guess nobody wants to back their nonsense but look, you knew it was lies so why bother asking?
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661


    Hmm
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,491
    The odds of Putin surviving another 2 years are not what they might be.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,722
    rjsterry said:

    The odds of Putin surviving another 2 years are not what they might be.

    The odds aren’t good, but surely better than Trump’s chances of returning to power in 2024?
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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    blazing_saddles said:

    rjsterry said:

    The odds of Putin surviving another 2 years are not what they might be.

    The odds aren’t good, but surely better than Trump’s chances of returning to power in 2024?
    I would not be laying that bet

    He only lost by a smidgin
    Who would beat him to the Reublican nomination
    Unlikely to be against an incumbent Dem
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Unless he's in prison, Trump will be Rep nomination and v v v difficult to beat with Electoral College system and current changes in voting legislation being enacted by the Reps.

    Dems are going to have to work v v v hard to win in '24
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,256
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    MattFalle said:

    Unless he's in prison, Trump will be Rep nomination and v v v difficult to beat with Electoral College system and current changes in voting legislation being enacted by the Reps.

    Dems are going to have to work v v v hard to win in '24


    Indeed. Unless one of the courts manage to get him on criminal charges, he's got the GOP by the sphericals, and red states are taking control of the electoral process wherever they can. It's not going to be pretty.
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    essentially its setting the scene for the US to be a republican country for generations.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,280
    edited May 2022
    blazing_saddles said:

    rjsterry said:

    The odds of Putin surviving another 2 years are not what they might be.

    The odds aren’t good, but surely better than Trump’s chances of returning to power in 2024?
    I'd pick Trump being president over Putin still being around as a bet.
    I'd rather neither.
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    the only saving grace is that apart from the coke head son, the rest have realised that furthering their political ambitions is just opening them up to litigation, so they sre going to stick to behind the scenes manouvering snd grifting.

    the coke head one is just too stupid to realise this.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,124
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vPAoaRPi2k
    A quick history of stupidity and disregard for other forms of life on Earth.

  • PMark
    PMark Posts: 160
    A leader like Putin with declining health can be very danagerous. So if he is still around in 2 years, I would much rather have Trump in the whitehouse as he is probably the only world leader which could talk Putin down from all out war, if it came to that.

    Of course more sensible people in Russia could use his health to take power from Putin, come back to the table and start withdrawing troops, thereby allowing the west to start opening up relations/trade with Russia.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    PMark said:

    A leader like Putin with declining health can be very danagerous. So if he is still around in 2 years, I would much rather have Trump in the whitehouse as he is probably the only world leader which could talk Putin down from all out war, if it came to that.

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    that's the best laugh i've had in ages. sheer delight.

    ffs.

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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,256
    MattFalle said:

    PMark said:

    A leader like Putin with declining health can be very danagerous. So if he is still around in 2 years, I would much rather have Trump in the whitehouse as he is probably the only world leader which could talk Putin down from all out war, if it came to that.

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    that's the best laugh i've had in ages. sheer delight.

    ffs.


    He's barely able to deal with a cup of water. Or English.
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    briantrumpet said:

    MattFalle said:

    PMark said:

    A leader like Putin with declining health can be very danagerous. So if he is still around in 2 years, I would much rather have Trump in the whitehouse as he is probably the only world leader which could talk Putin down from all out war, if it came to that.

    .

    that's the best laugh i've had in ages. sheer delight.

    ffs.


    He's barely able to deal with a cup of water. Or English.
    tbf, he's just a turbo balloon head
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,113
    MattFalle said:

    PMark said:

    A leader like Putin with declining health can be very danagerous. So if he is still around in 2 years, I would much rather have Trump in the whitehouse as he is probably the only world leader which could talk Putin down from all out war, if it came to that.

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    that's the best laugh i've had in ages. sheer delight.

    ffs.

    I don't know, look how he did in North Korea.

    Oh.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited May 2022
    PMark said:

    A leader like Putin with declining health can be very danagerous. So if he is still around in 2 years, I would much rather have Trump in the whitehouse as he is probably the only world leader which could talk Putin down from all out war, if it came to that.

    Of course more sensible people in Russia could use his health to take power from Putin, come back to the table and start withdrawing troops, thereby allowing the west to start opening up relations/trade with Russia.

    He was literally helping Putin *in* Ukraine you idiot.

    It was all recorded and got played in all the various hearings he had.
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,256
    Where's Nick these days?
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited May 2022
    First.Aspect said:

    MattFalle said:

    PMark said:

    A leader like Putin with declining health can be very danagerous. So if he is still around in 2 years, I would much rather have Trump in the whitehouse as he is probably the only world leader which could talk Putin down from all out war, if it came to that.

    .

    that's the best laugh i've had in ages. sheer delight.

    ffs.

    I don't know, look how he did in North Korea.

    Oh.
    oh thst was just s glitch.

    look how well he did negotiating the return of the pictures Putin has of the girls pissingon him in the flat in Moscow. Now thats real negotiating skill.

    oh.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    ok, bad example.

    look at how he got Mexico to pay for the wall.


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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited May 2022
    ok, my bad again.

    The trade war with China. Yes, the trade war.

    look at how he won that. real art of the deal stuff.

    oh.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,113
    He also gave Aberdeenshire Council what's for, with that offshore wind farm.

    Oh.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,113
    Shouldn't forget how he supported Boeing against Bombardier, by forcing Airbus to buy all the rights to that really good Bombardier plane for $1.

    Oh.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    I personally loved the reduction of the national debt.

    oh.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    or the way he reopened all those steelworks


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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,256
    Shall I create a Trump thread?

    Oh.
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