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That captured % is comically high. Is that anything like normal, if there is a normal?thegreatdivide said:The latest tally on Oryx is:
Russia - 2609, of which: destroyed: 1352, damaged: 38, abandoned: 237, captured: 982
Of that the tanks score is:
Tanks (448, of which destroyed: 219, damaged: 6, abandoned: 41, captured: 182)
Note how many have been ‘captured’. Ukraine has lost many tanks, but they’re now well into the black with new Russian toys.0 -
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An i teresting read on life with a bike in Kharkiv
https://cyclingtips.com/2022/04/a-ukrainians-story-of-a-war-and-a-bike/?fbclid=IwAR1ECJvRIwS7DiDTG4j9S0Qj0emcqbJ-epD960gy6xn2VSQFisu4AI3KDX00 -
I'd expected some mention of Boris' visit to meet Zelensky in Kyiv...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61052643
The Ukraine govt seem appreciative of what we are doing overall. Quote from the article:
In a Facebook post, Andriy Sybiha, deputy head of the Ukrainian president's office, said: "The UK is the leader in defence support for Ukraine. The leader in the anti-war coalition. The leader in sanctions against the Russian aggressor.""I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Credit where it’s due I think the Government have done a good job in supporting the Ukraine with military supplies and diplomacy.Stevo_666 said:I'd expected some mention of Boris' visit to meet Zelensky in Kyiv...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61052643
The Ukraine govt seem appreciative of what we are doing overall. Quote from the article:
In a Facebook post, Andriy Sybiha, deputy head of the Ukrainian president's office, said: "The UK is the leader in defence support for Ukraine. The leader in the anti-war coalition. The leader in sanctions against the Russian aggressor."
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agree on supplies and diplomacy, on the refugee front they're been a total snd unmitigated disaster and embarrasment and should be held to account.skyblueamateur said:
Credit where it’s due I think the Government have done a good job in supporting the Ukraine with military supplies and diplomacy.Stevo_666 said:I'd expected some mention of Boris' visit to meet Zelensky in Kyiv...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61052643
The Ukraine govt seem appreciative of what we are doing overall. Quote from the article:
In a Facebook post, Andriy Sybiha, deputy head of the Ukrainian president's office, said: "The UK is the leader in defence support for Ukraine. The leader in the anti-war coalition. The leader in sanctions against the Russian aggressor.".The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Again, can’t argue with that.MattFalle said:
agree on supplies and diplomacy, on the refugee front they're been a total snd unmitigated disaster and embarrasment and should be held to account.skyblueamateur said:
Credit where it’s due I think the Government have done a good job in supporting the Ukraine with military supplies and diplomacy.Stevo_666 said:I'd expected some mention of Boris' visit to meet Zelensky in Kyiv...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61052643
The Ukraine govt seem appreciative of what we are doing overall. Quote from the article:
In a Facebook post, Andriy Sybiha, deputy head of the Ukrainian president's office, said: "The UK is the leader in defence support for Ukraine. The leader in the anti-war coalition. The leader in sanctions against the Russian aggressor."
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Again, can’t argue with that.MattFalle said:
agree on supplies and diplomacy, on the refugee front they're been a total snd unmitigated disaster and embarrasment and should be held to account.skyblueamateur said:
Credit where it’s due I think the Government have done a good job in supporting the Ukraine with military supplies and diplomacy.Stevo_666 said:I'd expected some mention of Boris' visit to meet Zelensky in Kyiv...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61052643
The Ukraine govt seem appreciative of what we are doing overall. Quote from the article:
In a Facebook post, Andriy Sybiha, deputy head of the Ukrainian president's office, said: "The UK is the leader in defence support for Ukraine. The leader in the anti-war coalition. The leader in sanctions against the Russian aggressor."
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.2 -
Not sure about this bit, tbh...Stevo_666 said:The leader in sanctions against the Russian aggressor."
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Zelensky has proven to be a master at modifying his message depending upon his audience. Probably realises the best approach with Boris is to massage his ego and allow him to think of himself in a Churchillian type role.imposter2.0 said:
Not sure about this bit, tbh...Stevo_666 said:The leader in sanctions against the Russian aggressor."
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The fact Zelensky is/was a comedian is sometimes used to suggest it's an odd choice for leader.
By contrast, I'd say comedians are generally incredibly bright and capable of viewing situations with both a critical and agile mind.1 -
the fact de pffeffel is a lying, cheating, adulterous, bully, spoilt rich kid multiple sacked for lying racist failure of a foreign secretary balloon head is sometimes used to suggest its an odd choice for a leader.morstar said:The fact Zelensky is/was a comedian is sometimes used to suggest it's an odd choice for leader.
By contrast, I'd say comedians are generally incredibly bright and capable of viewing situations with both a critical and agile mind..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Yep. It's just a matter of time before he starts smoking Cuban cigars and wearing a Homberg hat...mrb123 said:
Zelensky has proven to be a master at modifying his message depending upon his audience. Probably realises the best approach with Boris is to massage his ego and allow him to think of himself in a Churchillian type role.imposter2.0 said:
Not sure about this bit, tbh...Stevo_666 said:The leader in sanctions against the Russian aggressor."
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Best have a word with the senior Ukrainian official who said it then.imposter2.0 said:
Not sure about this bit, tbh...Stevo_666 said:The leader in sanctions against the Russian aggressor."
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
The Ukrainian govt seem to appreciate what he is doing. Credit where credit's due. I know that's not easy for some people.MattFalle said:
the fact de pffeffel is a lying, cheating, adulterous, bully, spoilt rich kid multiple sacked for lying racist failure of a foreign secretary balloon head is sometimes used to suggest its an odd choice for a leader.morstar said:The fact Zelensky is/was a comedian is sometimes used to suggest it's an odd choice for leader.
By contrast, I'd say comedians are generally incredibly bright and capable of viewing situations with both a critical and agile mind."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
It doesn't matter who said it. It's either true or it isn't. They're not going to say "Yeah, he gave us some missiles, but we still think he's a cxxt...."Stevo_666 said:
Best have a word with the senior Ukrainian official who said it then.imposter2.0 said:
Not sure about this bit, tbh...Stevo_666 said:The leader in sanctions against the Russian aggressor."
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Some of it is subjective to be fair, but he's saying it for a reason. Difficult for some people to give Boris credit sometimes as mentioned above, but in this case I think credit is due.imposter2.0 said:
It doesn't matter who said it. It's either true or it isn't. They're not going to say "Yeah, he gave us some missiles, but we still think he's a cxxt...."Stevo_666 said:
Best have a word with the senior Ukrainian official who said it then.imposter2.0 said:
Not sure about this bit, tbh...Stevo_666 said:The leader in sanctions against the Russian aggressor."
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Yes, some credit is due for him going there. But it doesn't change my overall opinion of him. I still think he's a lying, grifting, bungling, sack of sh11t.Stevo_666 said:
Some of it is subjective to be fair, but he's saying it for a reason. Difficult for some people to give Boris credit sometimes as mentioned above, but in this case I think credit is due.imposter2.0 said:
It doesn't matter who said it. It's either true or it isn't. They're not going to say "Yeah, he gave us some missiles, but we still think he's a cxxt...."Stevo_666 said:
Best have a word with the senior Ukrainian official who said it then.imposter2.0 said:
Not sure about this bit, tbh...Stevo_666 said:The leader in sanctions against the Russian aggressor."
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Even lying, grifting, bungling, sack of sh1ts have to present an image to their marks.
Marks in this case being the party and the electorate.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Stevo_666 said:
Some of it is subjective to be fair, but he's saying it for a reason. Difficult for some people to give Boris credit sometimes as mentioned above, but in this case I think credit is due.imposter2.0 said:
It doesn't matter who said it. It's either true or it isn't. They're not going to say "Yeah, he gave us some missiles, but we still think he's a cxxt...."Stevo_666 said:
Best have a word with the senior Ukrainian official who said it then.imposter2.0 said:
Not sure about this bit, tbh...Stevo_666 said:The leader in sanctions against the Russian aggressor."
It's quite cute that you're so desperate for a few anonymous people on a cycling forum to praise Johnson when he actually gets something right.1 -
What, you mean it wasn't a photo op at all taking up time and assets from units that are already really busy?pblakeney said:Even lying, grifting, bungling, sack of sh1ts have to present an image to their marks.
Marks in this case being the party and the electorate..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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The desperation not give BJ credit for anything on here is pretty clear. Sometimes a bit of balance is needed.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
Some of it is subjective to be fair, but he's saying it for a reason. Difficult for some people to give Boris credit sometimes as mentioned above, but in this case I think credit is due.imposter2.0 said:
It doesn't matter who said it. It's either true or it isn't. They're not going to say "Yeah, he gave us some missiles, but we still think he's a cxxt...."Stevo_666 said:
Best have a word with the senior Ukrainian official who said it then.imposter2.0 said:
Not sure about this bit, tbh...Stevo_666 said:The leader in sanctions against the Russian aggressor."
It's quite cute that you're so desperate for a few anonymous people on a cycling forum to praise Johnson when he actually gets something right.
Although that said, it was a senior Ukrainian official who was giving him the credit - I was just passing on the info. Have you had a word with him about his desperation?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Q is though how much of this is de pffeffel doing a Thatcher and how much of it is the FO/6 pushing it?
Given his general evidenced ways methinks de p and the rest of the tory scum wouldn't generally give two hoots of a lamb to it - probably get in the way of a good party/climing non dom status application..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I love how the bar is so low that literally not f@cking every single thing up is classed as a win.
Well done PM. You managed to turn up and not make an utter arse out of yourself.
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That's credit I guess, albeit through clenched teethrick_chasey said:I love how the bar is so low that literally not f@cking every single thing up is classed as a win.
Well done PM. You managed to turn up and not make an utter censored out of yourself.
What do you think of the Ukrainian praise for the UK that I posted above?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I read in the Times that the Govt specifically asks Ukraine to be very vocal. Whether true or not I think Zelensky is clever enough to spot how needy Boris is and play him like a banjo.Stevo_666 said:
That's credit I guess, albeit through clenched teethrick_chasey said:I love how the bar is so low that literally not f@cking every single thing up is classed as a win.
Well done PM. You managed to turn up and not make an utter censored out of yourself.
What do you think of the Ukrainian praise for the UK that I posted above?0 -
I think you're desperate for someone to acknowledge it..Stevo_666 said:
That's credit I guess, albeit through clenched teethrick_chasey said:I love how the bar is so low that literally not f@cking every single thing up is classed as a win.
Well done PM. You managed to turn up and not make an utter censored out of yourself.
What do you think of the Ukrainian praise for the UK that I posted above?2 -
well, not that we know of so far.rick_chasey said:I love how the bar is so low that literally not f@cking every single thing up is classed as a win.
Well done PM. You managed to turn up and not make an utter censored out of yourself.
wonder if he apologised for saying that Brexit was the same as the current situation in Ukraine?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Stevo_666 said:
The desperation not give BJ credit for anything on here is pretty clear. Sometimes a bit of balance is needed.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
Some of it is subjective to be fair, but he's saying it for a reason. Difficult for some people to give Boris credit sometimes as mentioned above, but in this case I think credit is due.imposter2.0 said:
It doesn't matter who said it. It's either true or it isn't. They're not going to say "Yeah, he gave us some missiles, but we still think he's a cxxt...."Stevo_666 said:
Best have a word with the senior Ukrainian official who said it then.imposter2.0 said:
Not sure about this bit, tbh...Stevo_666 said:The leader in sanctions against the Russian aggressor."
It's quite cute that you're so desperate for a few anonymous people on a cycling forum to praise Johnson when he actually gets something right.
Although that said, it was a senior Ukrainian official who was giving him the credit - I was just passing on the info. Have you had a word with him about his desperation?
He wasn't posting a cycling forum. That would be desperate.0 -
So what is your view of von der Leyen doing the same the day before?MattFalle said:Q is though how much of this is de pffeffel doing a Thatcher and how much of it is the FO/6 pushing it?
Given his general evidenced ways methinks de p and the rest of the tory scum wouldn't generally give two hoots of a lamb to it - probably get in the way of a good party/climing non dom status application.
Or were you not aware that she popped into Kyiv on Friday?1
