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well they ain't coming from people having prosecco parties in Whitehall. and quiz nights. and byo nights. and dancing the night before the funeral of the Monarch's husband.john80 said:
The visa applications are not coming from those sitting in a shelter getting bombed in Mariupol. The applications are coming primarily from outside Ukraine so yes the speed is embarrassingly slow however to suggest women and children are dying whilst waiting for it to be approved is stretching it a bit.MattFalle said:10% processing rate as women and children continue to die on a daily basis.
#efficiencies
they're coming from people in Ukraine and living in refugee accomodation and who have lost everything including family members so yes, John, they are coming from people who lives have been destroyed.
its not stretching it a bit..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Yeahbut, "BJ claims".pinno said:That's why you have to pressure cook goats.
It's only taken them 2 days and 14 hours?pblakeney said:Processed ≠ accepted. They could have processed 100% and rejected just under 90%.
BJ claims 1000/day are being processed. Work out the figures from there.
#pinchofsalt. - That salt can go on your goat too. 😉The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
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Thread on why Abramovic is involved in the peace talks - clue - he’s Putin’s best mate0 -
So now you have admitted where the visa applications ar coming from do you want to double down that women and children are dying whilst they are processed. It is a bit of a stretch. Those dying are not dying because of a visa system. They are dying because Russians keep killing them.MattFalle said:
well they ain't coming from people having prosecco parties in Whitehall. and quiz nights. and byo nights. and dancing the night before the funeral of the Monarch's husband.john80 said:
The visa applications are not coming from those sitting in a shelter getting bombed in Mariupol. The applications are coming primarily from outside Ukraine so yes the speed is embarrassingly slow however to suggest women and children are dying whilst waiting for it to be approved is stretching it a bit.MattFalle said:10% processing rate as women and children continue to die on a daily basis.
#efficiencies
they're coming from people in Ukraine and living in refugee accomodation and who have lost everything including family members so yes, John, they are coming from people who lives have been destroyed.
its not stretching it a bit.0 -
sorry?john80 said:
So now you have admitted where the visa applications ar coming from do you want to double down that women and children are dying whilst they are processed. It is a bit of a stretch. Those dying are not dying because of a visa system. They are dying because Russians keep killing them.MattFalle said:
well they ain't coming from people having prosecco parties in Whitehall. and quiz nights. and byo nights. and dancing the night before the funeral of the Monarch's husband.john80 said:
The visa applications are not coming from those sitting in a shelter getting bombed in Mariupol. The applications are coming primarily from outside Ukraine so yes the speed is embarrassingly slow however to suggest women and children are dying whilst waiting for it to be approved is stretching it a bit.MattFalle said:10% processing rate as women and children continue to die on a daily basis.
#efficiencies
they're coming from people in Ukraine and living in refugee accomodation and who have lost everything including family members so yes, John, they are coming from people who lives have been destroyed.
its not stretching it a bit.
wtaf?
the visa system thst is so rubbish it keeps them where tbey are getting killed is nothing to do with them being killed?
eh?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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as an aside, Radio 4 this evening, around 6:15 - full piece on the visa system and how its such an i herent failure.
v worth listening to on the Player of i..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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The battle of Trostianets has become Russia’s Falaise Pocket*. A staggering amount of carnage. Dozens and dozens of tanks, big guns and armour has been destroyed or captured. It’s astonishing.0
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And in the square, surrounded by blown up modern weapons, stands a T-34 memorial.
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It is not keeping them where they are being killed you Muppet. Russian troops routinely shelling people on evacuation routes is doing this. No one is sitting in a basement in Mariupol with no electricity, food or running water trying to fill in a UK visa application as th first step to seeking safety. So unless women and children are being murdered within Ukraine where they have been displaced to the West or surrounding counties they have fled to whilst they wait for a visa decision you are talking out of your arse.MattFalle said:
sorry?john80 said:
So now you have admitted where the visa applications ar coming from do you want to double down that women and children are dying whilst they are processed. It is a bit of a stretch. Those dying are not dying because of a visa system. They are dying because Russians keep killing them.MattFalle said:
well they ain't coming from people having prosecco parties in Whitehall. and quiz nights. and byo nights. and dancing the night before the funeral of the Monarch's husband.john80 said:
The visa applications are not coming from those sitting in a shelter getting bombed in Mariupol. The applications are coming primarily from outside Ukraine so yes the speed is embarrassingly slow however to suggest women and children are dying whilst waiting for it to be approved is stretching it a bit.MattFalle said:10% processing rate as women and children continue to die on a daily basis.
#efficiencies
they're coming from people in Ukraine and living in refugee accomodation and who have lost everything including family members so yes, John, they are coming from people who lives have been destroyed.
its not stretching it a bit.
wtaf?
the visa system thst is so rubbish it keeps them where tbey are getting killed is nothing to do with them being killed?
eh?
If you want to get critical why is it out civil service and only process so slowly. This is a common thread in UK life where we blame politicians when civil servants can't even ramp up basic admin.0 -
I am sure Priti Patel thinks it is working as she wants it toMattFalle said:as an aside, Radio 4 this evening, around 6:15 - full piece on the visa system and how its such an i herent failure.
v worth listening to on the Player of i.1 -
i think, my friend, you are 100% correct.surrey_commuter said:
I am sure Priti Patel thinks it is working as she wants it toMattFalle said:as an aside, Radio 4 this evening, around 6:15 - full piece on the visa system and how its such an i herent failure.
v worth listening to on the Player of i..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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this is mega. quoted for posterity.john80 said:
It is not keeping them where they are being killed you Muppet. Russian troops routinely shelling people on evacuation routes is doing this. No one is sitting in a basement in Mariupol with no electricity, food or running water trying to fill in a UK visa application as th first step to seeking safety. So unless women and children are being murdered within Ukraine where they have been displaced to the West or surrounding counties they have fled to whilst they wait for a visa decision you are talking out of your censored .MattFalle said:
sorry?john80 said:
So now you have admitted where the visa applications ar coming from do you want to double down that women and children are dying whilst they are processed. It is a bit of a stretch. Those dying are not dying because of a visa system. They are dying because Russians keep killing them.MattFalle said:
well they ain't coming from people having prosecco parties in Whitehall. and quiz nights. and byo nights. and dancing the night before the funeral of the Monarch's husband.john80 said:
The visa applications are not coming from those sitting in a shelter getting bombed in Mariupol. The applications are coming primarily from outside Ukraine so yes the speed is embarrassingly slow however to suggest women and children are dying whilst waiting for it to be approved is stretching it a bit.MattFalle said:10% processing rate as women and children continue to die on a daily basis.
#efficiencies
they're coming from people in Ukraine and living in refugee accomodation and who have lost everything including family members so yes, John, they are coming from people who lives have been destroyed.
its not stretching it a bit.
wtaf?
the visa system thst is so rubbish it keeps them where tbey are getting killed is nothing to do with them being killed?
eh?
If you want to get critical why is it out civil service and only process so slowly. This is a common thread in UK life where we blame politicians when civil servants can't even ramp up basic admin..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Because the politicians are the civil servants bosses. The former are responsible for what their staff do. They have been instructed by every Home Secretary for the last 12 years to make the process of applying for a visa as expensive, long-winded and complex as possible. Unless of course you have lots of money then you can come in no questions asked.john80 said:
It is not keeping them where they are being killed you Muppet. Russian troops routinely shelling people on evacuation routes is doing this. No one is sitting in a basement in Mariupol with no electricity, food or running water trying to fill in a UK visa application as th first step to seeking safety. So unless women and children are being murdered within Ukraine where they have been displaced to the West or surrounding counties they have fled to whilst they wait for a visa decision you are talking out of your censored .MattFalle said:
sorry?john80 said:
So now you have admitted where the visa applications ar coming from do you want to double down that women and children are dying whilst they are processed. It is a bit of a stretch. Those dying are not dying because of a visa system. They are dying because Russians keep killing them.MattFalle said:
well they ain't coming from people having prosecco parties in Whitehall. and quiz nights. and byo nights. and dancing the night before the funeral of the Monarch's husband.john80 said:
The visa applications are not coming from those sitting in a shelter getting bombed in Mariupol. The applications are coming primarily from outside Ukraine so yes the speed is embarrassingly slow however to suggest women and children are dying whilst waiting for it to be approved is stretching it a bit.MattFalle said:10% processing rate as women and children continue to die on a daily basis.
#efficiencies
they're coming from people in Ukraine and living in refugee accomodation and who have lost everything including family members so yes, John, they are coming from people who lives have been destroyed.
its not stretching it a bit.
wtaf?
the visa system thst is so rubbish it keeps them where tbey are getting killed is nothing to do with them being killed?
eh?
If you want to get critical why is it out civil service and only process so slowly. This is a common thread in UK life where we blame politicians when civil servants can't even ramp up basic admin.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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I love the power which you think politicians wield over the civil service. So is your claim that the politicians are going on air to say they have simplified the process and are trying to ramp up processing them. That same said politician then says to the civil service boss I want to to stall all applications as much as possible and you can only use three people to do it. If this is the case then senior civil servants really have not power and I wonder why we pay them.rjsterry said:
Because the politicians are the civil servants bosses. The former are responsible for what their staff do. They have been instructed by every Home Secretary for the last 12 years to make the process of applying for a visa as expensive, long-winded and complex as possible. Unless of course you have lots of money then you can come in no questions asked.john80 said:
It is not keeping them where they are being killed you Muppet. Russian troops routinely shelling people on evacuation routes is doing this. No one is sitting in a basement in Mariupol with no electricity, food or running water trying to fill in a UK visa application as th first step to seeking safety. So unless women and children are being murdered within Ukraine where they have been displaced to the West or surrounding counties they have fled to whilst they wait for a visa decision you are talking out of your censored .MattFalle said:
sorry?john80 said:
So now you have admitted where the visa applications ar coming from do you want to double down that women and children are dying whilst they are processed. It is a bit of a stretch. Those dying are not dying because of a visa system. They are dying because Russians keep killing them.MattFalle said:
well they ain't coming from people having prosecco parties in Whitehall. and quiz nights. and byo nights. and dancing the night before the funeral of the Monarch's husband.john80 said:
The visa applications are not coming from those sitting in a shelter getting bombed in Mariupol. The applications are coming primarily from outside Ukraine so yes the speed is embarrassingly slow however to suggest women and children are dying whilst waiting for it to be approved is stretching it a bit.MattFalle said:10% processing rate as women and children continue to die on a daily basis.
#efficiencies
they're coming from people in Ukraine and living in refugee accomodation and who have lost everything including family members so yes, John, they are coming from people who lives have been destroyed.
its not stretching it a bit.
wtaf?
the visa system thst is so rubbish it keeps them where tbey are getting killed is nothing to do with them being killed?
eh?
If you want to get critical why is it out civil service and only process so slowly. This is a common thread in UK life where we blame politicians when civil servants can't even ramp up basic admin.
It would seem to me that a lot of people disagree with the visa system in principle and therefore any implementation of one is unacceptable. Those are the same people that fail to realise the impact to the UK of not having a system.0 -
'Yes Minister' emphasised that one.john80 said:
I love the power which you think politicians wield over the civil service...rjsterry said:
Because the politicians are the civil servants bosses. The former are responsible for what their staff do. They have been instructed by every Home Secretary for the last 12 years to make the process of applying for a visa as expensive, long-winded and complex as possible. Unless of course you have lots of money then you can come in no questions asked.john80 said:
It is not keeping them where they are being killed you Muppet. Russian troops routinely shelling people on evacuation routes is doing this. No one is sitting in a basement in Mariupol with no electricity, food or running water trying to fill in a UK visa application as th first step to seeking safety. So unless women and children are being murdered within Ukraine where they have been displaced to the West or surrounding counties they have fled to whilst they wait for a visa decision you are talking out of your censored .MattFalle said:
sorry?john80 said:
So now you have admitted where the visa applications ar coming from do you want to double down that women and children are dying whilst they are processed. It is a bit of a stretch. Those dying are not dying because of a visa system. They are dying because Russians keep killing them.MattFalle said:
well they ain't coming from people having prosecco parties in Whitehall. and quiz nights. and byo nights. and dancing the night before the funeral of the Monarch's husband.john80 said:
The visa applications are not coming from those sitting in a shelter getting bombed in Mariupol. The applications are coming primarily from outside Ukraine so yes the speed is embarrassingly slow however to suggest women and children are dying whilst waiting for it to be approved is stretching it a bit.MattFalle said:10% processing rate as women and children continue to die on a daily basis.
#efficiencies
they're coming from people in Ukraine and living in refugee accomodation and who have lost everything including family members so yes, John, they are coming from people who lives have been destroyed.
its not stretching it a bit.
wtaf?
the visa system thst is so rubbish it keeps them where tbey are getting killed is nothing to do with them being killed?
eh?
If you want to get critical why is it out civil service and only process so slowly. This is a common thread in UK life where we blame politicians when civil servants can't even ramp up basic admin.
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Yes. I mean we could list out all the things that have been said on air and turned out to be untrue but we've not got all day. The HO seems to also have some pretty fundamental organisational problems as they seem to lurch from one screw up to another, but the general and specific policy direction set by the last two or three Home Secretaries has been absolutely unambiguous: reduce immigration by any means.john80 said:
I love the power which you think politicians wield over the civil service. So is your claim that the politicians are going on air to say they have simplified the process and are trying to ramp up processing them. That same said politician then says to the civil service boss I want to to stall all applications as much as possible and you can only use three people to do it. If this is the case then senior civil servants really have not power and I wonder why we pay them.rjsterry said:
Because the politicians are the civil servants bosses. The former are responsible for what their staff do. They have been instructed by every Home Secretary for the last 12 years to make the process of applying for a visa as expensive, long-winded and complex as possible. Unless of course you have lots of money then you can come in no questions asked.john80 said:
It is not keeping them where they are being killed you Muppet. Russian troops routinely shelling people on evacuation routes is doing this. No one is sitting in a basement in Mariupol with no electricity, food or running water trying to fill in a UK visa application as th first step to seeking safety. So unless women and children are being murdered within Ukraine where they have been displaced to the West or surrounding counties they have fled to whilst they wait for a visa decision you are talking out of your censored .MattFalle said:
sorry?john80 said:
So now you have admitted where the visa applications ar coming from do you want to double down that women and children are dying whilst they are processed. It is a bit of a stretch. Those dying are not dying because of a visa system. They are dying because Russians keep killing them.MattFalle said:
well they ain't coming from people having prosecco parties in Whitehall. and quiz nights. and byo nights. and dancing the night before the funeral of the Monarch's husband.john80 said:
The visa applications are not coming from those sitting in a shelter getting bombed in Mariupol. The applications are coming primarily from outside Ukraine so yes the speed is embarrassingly slow however to suggest women and children are dying whilst waiting for it to be approved is stretching it a bit.MattFalle said:10% processing rate as women and children continue to die on a daily basis.
#efficiencies
they're coming from people in Ukraine and living in refugee accomodation and who have lost everything including family members so yes, John, they are coming from people who lives have been destroyed.
its not stretching it a bit.
wtaf?
the visa system thst is so rubbish it keeps them where tbey are getting killed is nothing to do with them being killed?
eh?
If you want to get critical why is it out civil service and only process so slowly. This is a common thread in UK life where we blame politicians when civil servants can't even ramp up basic admin.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Profit from it too.rjsterry said:
Yes. The HO seems to also have some pretty fundamental organisational problems as they seem to lurch from one screw up to another, but the general and specific policy direction set by the last two or three Home Secretaries has been absolutely unambiguous: reduce immigration by any means.john80 said:
I love the power which you think politicians wield over the civil service. So is your claim that the politicians are going on air to say they have simplified the process and are trying to ramp up processing them. That same said politician then says to the civil service boss I want to to stall all applications as much as possible and you can only use three people to do it. If this is the case then senior civil servants really have not power and I wonder why we pay them.rjsterry said:
Because the politicians are the civil servants bosses. The former are responsible for what their staff do. They have been instructed by every Home Secretary for the last 12 years to make the process of applying for a visa as expensive, long-winded and complex as possible. Unless of course you have lots of money then you can come in no questions asked.john80 said:
It is not keeping them where they are being killed you Muppet. Russian troops routinely shelling people on evacuation routes is doing this. No one is sitting in a basement in Mariupol with no electricity, food or running water trying to fill in a UK visa application as th first step to seeking safety. So unless women and children are being murdered within Ukraine where they have been displaced to the West or surrounding counties they have fled to whilst they wait for a visa decision you are talking out of your censored .MattFalle said:
sorry?john80 said:
So now you have admitted where the visa applications ar coming from do you want to double down that women and children are dying whilst they are processed. It is a bit of a stretch. Those dying are not dying because of a visa system. They are dying because Russians keep killing them.MattFalle said:
well they ain't coming from people having prosecco parties in Whitehall. and quiz nights. and byo nights. and dancing the night before the funeral of the Monarch's husband.john80 said:
The visa applications are not coming from those sitting in a shelter getting bombed in Mariupol. The applications are coming primarily from outside Ukraine so yes the speed is embarrassingly slow however to suggest women and children are dying whilst waiting for it to be approved is stretching it a bit.MattFalle said:10% processing rate as women and children continue to die on a daily basis.
#efficiencies
they're coming from people in Ukraine and living in refugee accomodation and who have lost everything including family members so yes, John, they are coming from people who lives have been destroyed.
its not stretching it a bit.
wtaf?
the visa system thst is so rubbish it keeps them where tbey are getting killed is nothing to do with them being killed?
eh?
If you want to get critical why is it out civil service and only process so slowly. This is a common thread in UK life where we blame politicians when civil servants can't even ramp up basic admin.2 -
reduce immigration AND get as many immigrants out as possible..
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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They are following the electorate that voted them in. I would say those that want increased immigration are in the minority if this was the only issue going on. Senior civil servants are on the pay scale on or above that of local council heads. Whilst they don't crown themselves in glory they are making civil servants look bad. Take from that what you will.rjsterry said:
Yes. I mean we could list out all the things that have been said on air and turned out to be untrue but we've not got all day. The HO seems to also have some pretty fundamental organisational problems as they seem to lurch from one screw up to another, but the general and specific policy direction set by the last two or three Home Secretaries has been absolutely unambiguous: reduce immigration by any means.john80 said:
I love the power which you think politicians wield over the civil service. So is your claim that the politicians are going on air to say they have simplified the process and are trying to ramp up processing them. That same said politician then says to the civil service boss I want to to stall all applications as much as possible and you can only use three people to do it. If this is the case then senior civil servants really have not power and I wonder why we pay them.rjsterry said:
Because the politicians are the civil servants bosses. The former are responsible for what their staff do. They have been instructed by every Home Secretary for the last 12 years to make the process of applying for a visa as expensive, long-winded and complex as possible. Unless of course you have lots of money then you can come in no questions asked.john80 said:
It is not keeping them where they are being killed you Muppet. Russian troops routinely shelling people on evacuation routes is doing this. No one is sitting in a basement in Mariupol with no electricity, food or running water trying to fill in a UK visa application as th first step to seeking safety. So unless women and children are being murdered within Ukraine where they have been displaced to the West or surrounding counties they have fled to whilst they wait for a visa decision you are talking out of your censored .MattFalle said:
sorry?john80 said:
So now you have admitted where the visa applications ar coming from do you want to double down that women and children are dying whilst they are processed. It is a bit of a stretch. Those dying are not dying because of a visa system. They are dying because Russians keep killing them.MattFalle said:
well they ain't coming from people having prosecco parties in Whitehall. and quiz nights. and byo nights. and dancing the night before the funeral of the Monarch's husband.john80 said:
The visa applications are not coming from those sitting in a shelter getting bombed in Mariupol. The applications are coming primarily from outside Ukraine so yes the speed is embarrassingly slow however to suggest women and children are dying whilst waiting for it to be approved is stretching it a bit.MattFalle said:10% processing rate as women and children continue to die on a daily basis.
#efficiencies
they're coming from people in Ukraine and living in refugee accomodation and who have lost everything including family members so yes, John, they are coming from people who lives have been destroyed.
its not stretching it a bit.
wtaf?
the visa system thst is so rubbish it keeps them where tbey are getting killed is nothing to do with them being killed?
eh?
If you want to get critical why is it out civil service and only process so slowly. This is a common thread in UK life where we blame politicians when civil servants can't even ramp up basic admin.0 -
Racist country elects racist government.
Nice.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
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in ehat way?rick_chasey said:
Check out France innit.pblakeney said:Racist country elects racist government.
Nice..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Come on Matt. Get on board. The majority of western countries are racist. Don't question the stat just accept it.MattFalle said:
in ehat way?rick_chasey said:
Check out France innit.pblakeney said:Racist country elects racist government.
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Chinks of light for Kyiv and the area, at least, for the mo.
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It’s definitely looking positive.briantrumpet said:Chinks of light for Kyiv and the area, at least, for the mo.
They’ve pretty much pulled out of Chernobyl too. The I AEA are going to try and get back in and asses the situation. Seemingly some of the Russians had dug trenches in the most contaminated area and are now allegedly being treated for radiation in Belarus.
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why should racism, in any form, be accepted in any way?john80 said:
Come on Matt. Get on board. The majority of western countries are racist. Don't question the stat just accept it.MattFalle said:
in ehat way?rick_chasey said:
Check out France innit.pblakeney said:Racist country elects racist government.
Nice.
do you find racism acceptable?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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There's an interesting development... I'd assumed this was another Russian strike against Ukrainian fuel supply...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzgiqnpJRGo
