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Did Putin get a two for one deal?rjsterry said:I've changed my mind. I don't think she is the vaguely sensible one.
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From his wiki, seems like a real wrongun.rjsterry said:Keep your enemies closer.
Kadyrov rules the Chechen Republic through despotism and repression.[7][8][9][10] Over the years, he has come under criticism from international organisations for a wide array of human rights abuses under his watch, with Human Rights Watch calling the forced disappearances and torture so widespread they constituted crimes against humanity.[11] During his tenure, he has advocated restricting the public lives of women, and led anti-gay purges in the Republic.[12][13] Ramzan Kadyrov has been frequently accused of involvement in the kidnapping, assassination, and torture of human rights activists, critics, and their relatives, within both Chechnya as well as in other regions of the Russian Federation and abroad, through the political use of police and military forces.0 -
Western democracies can't go around putting bounties on the heads of states of other countries. They can however bar him from ever coming into their country and they can refuse to lift sanctions until he is gone though. I think state sponsored assassinations is a step too far to the world of the rogue states personally.pinno said:Given the economic effects of this conflict, here's a hypothetical:
Western govts, get together and put a £250m bounty on Putins head plus guarantees:
A complete withdrawal from Ukraine and in return, a lifting of sanctions.
Then people on the inside might just be tempted.
Also, Putin may become totally isolated if the lifting of sanctions comes with fulfilling the bounty.
I know there's a $50m dollar bounty on his head but it's not enough.0 -
One doesn't have to go public with the offer.john80 said:
Western democracies can't go around putting bounties on the heads of states of other countries. They can however bar him from ever coming into their country and they can refuse to lift sanctions until he is gone though. I think state sponsored assassinations is a step too far to the world of the rogue states personally.pinno said:Given the economic effects of this conflict, here's a hypothetical:
Western govts, get together and put a £250m bounty on Putins head plus guarantees:
A complete withdrawal from Ukraine and in return, a lifting of sanctions.
Then people on the inside might just be tempted.
Also, Putin may become totally isolated if the lifting of sanctions comes with fulfilling the bounty.
I know there's a $50m dollar bounty on his head but it's not enough.
The cost of this war will run into untold millions (never mind the tragic loss of life) and such a move could be classed as sheer economics.
Economics see:
Russia Ukraine news: BC businessman pushes $50M rewardhttps://www.timescolonist.com › highlights › bc-busines...
7 Mar 2022 — A B.C. businessman has offered $1 million in seed money for a $50-million reward for whoever brings Russian President Vladimir Putin to the ...
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Really? US historical activity in Central and South America for example not chiming any bells?john80 said:
Western democracies can't go around putting bounties on the heads of states of other countries... ... I think state sponsored assassinations is a step too far to the world of the rogue states personally.0 -
State sponsored murder is illegal in many western countriespinno said:Given the economic effects of this conflict, here's a hypothetical:
Western govts, get together and put a £250m bounty on Putins head plus guarantees:
A complete withdrawal from Ukraine and in return, a lifting of sanctions.
Then people on the inside might just be tempted.
Also, Putin may become totally isolated if the lifting of sanctions comes with fulfilling the bounty.
I know there's a $50m dollar bounty on his head but it's not enough.0 -
Oh for sure, but he likes to match his military gear with Prada boots. Another one who likes to denounce Western decadence while buying as much overpriced luxury tat as he can find.rick_chasey said:
From his wiki, seems like a real wrongun.rjsterry said:Keep your enemies closer.
Kadyrov rules the Chechen Republic through despotism and repression.[7][8][9][10] Over the years, he has come under criticism from international organisations for a wide array of human rights abuses under his watch, with Human Rights Watch calling the forced disappearances and torture so widespread they constituted crimes against humanity.[11] During his tenure, he has advocated restricting the public lives of women, and led anti-gay purges in the Republic.[12][13] Ramzan Kadyrov has been frequently accused of involvement in the kidnapping, assassination, and torture of human rights activists, critics, and their relatives, within both Chechnya as well as in other regions of the Russian Federation and abroad, through the political use of police and military forces.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Not in the US though.surrey_commuter said:
State sponsored murder is illegal in many western countriespinno said:Given the economic effects of this conflict, here's a hypothetical:
Western govts, get together and put a £250m bounty on Putins head plus guarantees:
A complete withdrawal from Ukraine and in return, a lifting of sanctions.
Then people on the inside might just be tempted.
Also, Putin may become totally isolated if the lifting of sanctions comes with fulfilling the bounty.
I know there's a $50m dollar bounty on his head but it's not enough.0 -
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but only if you get caught doing itsurrey_commuter said:
State sponsored murder is illegal in many western countriespinno said:Given the economic effects of this conflict, here's a hypothetical:
Western govts, get together and put a £250m bounty on Putins head plus guarantees:
A complete withdrawal from Ukraine and in return, a lifting of sanctions.
Then people on the inside might just be tempted.
Also, Putin may become totally isolated if the lifting of sanctions comes with fulfilling the bounty.
I know there's a $50m dollar bounty on his head but it's not enough..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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tbh, its a bit of a poisoned chalice.rick_chasey said:
From his wiki, seems like a real wrongun.rjsterry said:Keep your enemies closer.
Kadyrov rules the Chechen Republic through despotism and repression.[7][8][9][10] Over the years, he has come under criticism from international organisations for a wide array of human rights abuses under his watch, with Human Rights Watch calling the forced disappearances and torture so widespread they constituted crimes against humanity.[11] During his tenure, he has advocated restricting the public lives of women, and led anti-gay purges in the Republic.[12][13] Ramzan Kadyrov has been frequently accused of involvement in the kidnapping, assassination, and torture of human rights activists, critics, and their relatives, within both Chechnya as well as in other regions of the Russian Federation and abroad, through the political use of police and military forces.
get it wrong, Putin will slot/poison you.
get it wrong/wrong, the Ukrainians will slot you like the other 6 generals
Get it right - well, right in fuckedupness that is mad vlad's world, the rest of the world will get you..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I doubt Shinyboots will be stupid enough to go anywhere near where he might actually get shot. From what I've read his thugs have mostly only ever gone up against civilians and the odd poorly armed rebel.MattFalle said:
tbh, its a bit of a poisoned chalice.rick_chasey said:
From his wiki, seems like a real wrongun.rjsterry said:Keep your enemies closer.
Kadyrov rules the Chechen Republic through despotism and repression.[7][8][9][10] Over the years, he has come under criticism from international organisations for a wide array of human rights abuses under his watch, with Human Rights Watch calling the forced disappearances and torture so widespread they constituted crimes against humanity.[11] During his tenure, he has advocated restricting the public lives of women, and led anti-gay purges in the Republic.[12][13] Ramzan Kadyrov has been frequently accused of involvement in the kidnapping, assassination, and torture of human rights activists, critics, and their relatives, within both Chechnya as well as in other regions of the Russian Federation and abroad, through the political use of police and military forces.
get it wrong, Putin will slot/poison you.
get it wrong/wrong, the Ukrainians will slot you like the other 6 generals
Get it right - well, right in fuckedupness that is mad vlad's world, the rest of the world will get you.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Tbf, Shineyboots will have to go where mad vlad tells him to go.rjsterry said:
I doubt Shinyboots will be stupid enough to go anywhere near where he might actually get shot. From what I've read his thugs have mostly only ever gone up against civilians and the odd poorly armed rebel.MattFalle said:
tbh, its a bit of a poisoned chalice.rick_chasey said:
From his wiki, seems like a real wrongun.rjsterry said:Keep your enemies closer.
Kadyrov rules the Chechen Republic through despotism and repression.[7][8][9][10] Over the years, he has come under criticism from international organisations for a wide array of human rights abuses under his watch, with Human Rights Watch calling the forced disappearances and torture so widespread they constituted crimes against humanity.[11] During his tenure, he has advocated restricting the public lives of women, and led anti-gay purges in the Republic.[12][13] Ramzan Kadyrov has been frequently accused of involvement in the kidnapping, assassination, and torture of human rights activists, critics, and their relatives, within both Chechnya as well as in other regions of the Russian Federation and abroad, through the political use of police and military forces.
get it wrong, Putin will slot/poison you.
get it wrong/wrong, the Ukrainians will slot you like the other 6 generals
Get it right - well, right in fuckedupness that is mad vlad's world, the rest of the world will get you.
its part of the reason why all the generals were slotted - they were told to go closer to the front to promote morale, which, looking back on it, maybe wasn't such a great idea.
tbf though, not sure appointing a chechyn (sic) war criminal will really gel the Russian armed forces together at a time when they're getting smashed to bits.....The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Don't forget the Russian general who was run over by his own men.
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all illegalorraloon said:
Really? US historical activity in Central and South America for example not chiming any bells?john80 said:
Western democracies can't go around putting bounties on the heads of states of other countries... ... I think state sponsored assassinations is a step too far to the world of the rogue states personally.0 -
good point well presented.shirley_basso said:Don't forget the Russian general who was run over by his own men.
They're not all getting slotted by the Ukrainians
as well, he may not actually have the know how in organising a conventional war fighting force so may just end up jeffing it up.
Chechnya was v different to this remember..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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One lives in hope that a Russian, Ukranian or Chechnyan slots him.0
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Also shows that it doesn't make things any better. Needs to come from them.surrey_commuter said:
all illegalorraloon said:
Really? US historical activity in Central and South America for example not chiming any bells?john80 said:
Western democracies can't go around putting bounties on the heads of states of other countries... ... I think state sponsored assassinations is a step too far to the world of the rogue states personally.0 -
You missed the get it right in Putin's view, Putin then sees him as a threat and has him poisoned.MattFalle said:
tbh, its a bit of a poisoned chalice.rick_chasey said:
From his wiki, seems like a real wrongun.rjsterry said:Keep your enemies closer.
Kadyrov rules the Chechen Republic through despotism and repression.[7][8][9][10] Over the years, he has come under criticism from international organisations for a wide array of human rights abuses under his watch, with Human Rights Watch calling the forced disappearances and torture so widespread they constituted crimes against humanity.[11] During his tenure, he has advocated restricting the public lives of women, and led anti-gay purges in the Republic.[12][13] Ramzan Kadyrov has been frequently accused of involvement in the kidnapping, assassination, and torture of human rights activists, critics, and their relatives, within both Chechnya as well as in other regions of the Russian Federation and abroad, through the political use of police and military forces.
get it wrong, Putin will slot/poison you.
get it wrong/wrong, the Ukrainians will slot you like the other 6 generals
Get it right - well, right in fuckedupness that is mad vlad's world, the rest of the world will get you.0 -
very good point very well presented.Dorset_Boy said:
You missed the get it right in Putin's view, Putin then sees him as a threat and has him poisoned.MattFalle said:
tbh, its a bit of a poisoned chalice.rick_chasey said:
From his wiki, seems like a real wrongun.rjsterry said:Keep your enemies closer.
Kadyrov rules the Chechen Republic through despotism and repression.[7][8][9][10] Over the years, he has come under criticism from international organisations for a wide array of human rights abuses under his watch, with Human Rights Watch calling the forced disappearances and torture so widespread they constituted crimes against humanity.[11] During his tenure, he has advocated restricting the public lives of women, and led anti-gay purges in the Republic.[12][13] Ramzan Kadyrov has been frequently accused of involvement in the kidnapping, assassination, and torture of human rights activists, critics, and their relatives, within both Chechnya as well as in other regions of the Russian Federation and abroad, through the political use of police and military forces.
get it wrong, Putin will slot/poison you.
get it wrong/wrong, the Ukrainians will slot you like the other 6 generals
Get it right - well, right in fuckedupness that is mad vlad's world, the rest of the world will get you.
tbh though, I think they realise yhat it won't be a poisoning - as he's a Chechyn (sic) they've just take him to the nearest cellar and slot him.
Political military rivals will be happy, no one else will care as there will be a power vacuum at the top to be filled..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Shiny Boots’ right hand man got pumped in the first few days of the war at Hostomel airfield. Probably targeted by the UF Drone Squad in that Guardian article. The indignity of getting humped by the IT crowd.2
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well yeah, the russians have already said they are going to concentrate on the Donbras region, so move assets from somewhere to somewhere new.
thats the official line
unofficially they are getting nowhere, so move on.
from the Ukranian POV, transporting assets means means convoys, means rich pickings.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I got the impression Ukraine had a lot of forces in and around Kyiv too - so they are freed up the same as the Russians around Kyiv are.0
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I'll refer to orraloon's post.surrey_commuter said:
State sponsored murder is illegal in many western countriespinno said:Given the economic effects of this conflict, here's a hypothetical:
Western govts, get together and put a £250m bounty on Putins head plus guarantees:
A complete withdrawal from Ukraine and in return, a lifting of sanctions.
Then people on the inside might just be tempted.
Also, Putin may become totally isolated if the lifting of sanctions comes with fulfilling the bounty.
I know there's a $50m dollar bounty on his head but it's not enough.
It might be illegal but it doesn't stop it happening.
Putin is a c*nt and doesn't play by the rules. Why should we?seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
because having the moral highground is important in a war of misinformation,0
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not much point in having a secret bountypinno said:
I'll refer to orraloon's post.surrey_commuter said:
State sponsored murder is illegal in many western countriespinno said:Given the economic effects of this conflict, here's a hypothetical:
Western govts, get together and put a £250m bounty on Putins head plus guarantees:
A complete withdrawal from Ukraine and in return, a lifting of sanctions.
Then people on the inside might just be tempted.
Also, Putin may become totally isolated if the lifting of sanctions comes with fulfilling the bounty.
I know there's a $50m dollar bounty on his head but it's not enough.
It might be illegal but it doesn't stop it happening.
Putin is a c*nt and doesn't play by the rules. Why should we?0 -
because you need to retain the moral high ground. and its illegal. you need to stay within the Law and the Geneva Convention.pinno said:
I'll refer to orraloon's post.surrey_commuter said:
State sponsored murder is illegal in many western countriespinno said:Given the economic effects of this conflict, here's a hypothetical:
Western govts, get together and put a £250m bounty on Putins head plus guarantees:
A complete withdrawal from Ukraine and in return, a lifting of sanctions.
Then people on the inside might just be tempted.
Also, Putin may become totally isolated if the lifting of sanctions comes with fulfilling the bounty.
I know there's a $50m dollar bounty on his head but it's not enough.
It might be illegal but it doesn't stop it happening.
Putin is a c*nt and doesn't play by the rules. Why should we?
they do something. you do something
they do something worse. you do something worse.
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its a fuckinghorrible business anyway. play by the rules.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Not the Chicago way then? 😉
#JimMaloneUntouchableThe above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
He does sound like a bit of a rascal, doesn't he? Could it be that he is being brought in to take responsibility for using chemical or bio weapons. I sincerely hope not.rick_chasey said:
From his wiki, seems like a real wrongun.rjsterry said:Keep your enemies closer.
Kadyrov rules the Chechen Republic through despotism and repression.[7][8][9][10] Over the years, he has come under criticism from international organisations for a wide array of human rights abuses under his watch, with Human Rights Watch calling the forced disappearances and torture so widespread they constituted crimes against humanity.[11] During his tenure, he has advocated restricting the public lives of women, and led anti-gay purges in the Republic.[12][13] Ramzan Kadyrov has been frequently accused of involvement in the kidnapping, assassination, and torture of human rights activists, critics, and their relatives, within both Chechnya as well as in other regions of the Russian Federation and abroad, through the political use of police and military forces.Bianchi ImpulsoBMC Teammachine SLR02 01Trek Domane AL3“When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. “ ~H.G. Wells Edit - "Unless it's a BMX"0 -
Something I was reading likened him to the VDV: mostly for show and effective at terrorising civilians, but little actual use in a real fight. MF probably much better placed to comment, though.MattFalle said:
good point well presented.shirley_basso said:Don't forget the Russian general who was run over by his own men.
They're not all getting slotted by the Ukrainians
as well, he may not actually have the know how in organising a conventional war fighting force so may just end up jeffing it up.
Chechnya was v different to this remember.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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