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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    Why do you think Johnson has a relationship with Lebedev, and why did he personally intervene to ensure he became a Lord despite protestations from people responsible UK security?

    because he's a lying, racist, cheating, adulterous douche bag who sleeps with prostitutes?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Meh, that's a side-quest for him.

    Lebedev owns the Evening Standard which gave Johnson a very very big backing during the mayoral elections when Johnson was standing. That's how they got to know each other.

    What does Lebedev get in return for that and the subsequent bunga bunga parties?

  • laurentian
    laurentian Posts: 2,548
    edited March 2022
    On the subject of grammar . . .

    ". . . otherwise it would be "the racist, lying, cheating <<should be a comma here>> adulterous douche bag de pffeffel slept with prostitute's work colleagues . . . "
    Wilier Izoard XP
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    noted - many apols.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited March 2022
    The real tragedy is that if you have a spare £10m to chuck about to host lots of parties and put up celebs and MPs in nice surroundings you can buy yourself a remarkable amount of influence.

    That's the language oligarchs and kleptocrats understand. They see money as power and use their power to make more money.

    That's it. They steal, they create fictions, they murder and they use money to buy elections, assassinate or imprison rivals and buy off western governments for influence.

  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    edited March 2022
    john80 said:

    The OP claim was indicating he went to a party and was sleeping with prostitute's.

    That was your inference - not my claim. All you have to do is read what I said.

    (or more specifically, 'read what I wrote' - given that written accuracy is important..)

  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644



    They steal, they create fictions, they murder and they use money to buy elections, assassinate or imprison rivals and buy off western governments for influence.

    you make that sound like its a bad thing.

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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    Only if you're on the receiving end of the murder or the losing side in elections, which I guess is the reason Stevo is so happy.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,461

    The real tragedy is that if you have a spare £10m to chuck about to host lots of parties and put up celebs and MPs in nice surroundings you can buy yourself a remarkable amount of influence.

    That's the language oligarchs and kleptocrats understand. They see money as power and use their power to make more money.

    That's it. They steal, they create fictions, they murder and they use money to buy elections, assassinate or imprison rivals and buy off western governments for influence.

    This is hardly a new phenomenon though, just different people. In the past the rich people were 'home grown'.
  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965

    john80 said:

    The OP claim was indicating he went to a party and was sleeping with prostitute's.

    That was your inference - not my claim. All you have to do is read what I said.

    (or more specifically, 'read what I wrote' - given that written accuracy is important..)

    Why bring it in. You could have just said he went to Lebedevs house for the weekend without bringing women into it couldn't you. As Lebedev owns a media outlet I wonder how many other parties former PM's have attended of people that own media outlets. So if the girls are not relevant and hardly worth a mention as lets face it females in a room is no a sacking offence then why is everyone else on here leaping to the Profumo comparison. Its not just me reading into your words and inferring things.

    Should Lebedev be in the Lords, or is he a fit and proper person to own a UK medial publication are the better questions?
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    edited March 2022
    john80 said:

    john80 said:

    The OP claim was indicating he went to a party and was sleeping with prostitute's.

    That was your inference - not my claim. All you have to do is read what I said.

    (or more specifically, 'read what I wrote' - given that written accuracy is important..)

    Why bring it in. You could have just said he went to Lebedevs house for the weekend without bringing women into it couldn't you. As Lebedev owns a media outlet I wonder how many other parties former PM's have attended of people that own media outlets. So if the girls are not relevant and hardly worth a mention as lets face it females in a room is no a sacking offence then why is everyone else on here leaping to the Profumo comparison. Its not just me reading into your words and inferring things.

    Should Lebedev be in the Lords, or is he a fit and proper person to own a UK medial publication are the better questions?
    Again John, I think you're a bit 'behind the curve' on this topic. Lebedev's invitation (the one which Rory Stewart declined, and spaffer accepted) specifically mentioned that the party would have 'girls' in attendance. That's why I referred to it. These parties were apparently well-known. Spaffer ditched his security detail for the weekend and most likely went there to get his end away, because he can't help himself.

    The better question would be, is spaffer a fit and proper person to be prime minister of the United Kingdom. Most of us already know the answer to that - even if you don't.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,307

    MattFalle said:

    john80 said:

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    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    mrb123 said:



    Spot the odd one out...

    The one named by the Kremlin as the most active anti-Russian leader?
    https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/03/24/ukraine-war-latest-russia-news-putin-peace-nato-zelensky/
    Oh, well if that's what the Kremlin says...
    Another one who swallows the theories about about Boris being a Kremlin undercover agent. Bit gullible?
    There's more evidence to suggest that he is - and not so much evidence to suggest he isn't. Personally, I think it highly likely that the Russians have kompromat on him.
    To be compromised would he not need to be embarrassed by his behaviour. Cue the honey trap operation that failed when the guy asked for copies of the photos so he could brag about the standard of female he had bedded.
    No, not really. The guy is shameless, we already know that. If he cared about stuff like that, he might try a bit harder to look less like a sack of sh11t all the time. While he might not care about his own behaviour, I'm sure the Tory 'moral majority' would have something to say.

    I'm sure the Lebedev family didn't invite spaffer to their Italian mansion for the weekend "with girls" because they liked his company.
    You got any sources for you lebedev claims above. Particularly the claims that he was at a party with what you are presumably calling prostitute's.
    Just a quick Google brings up quite a few - https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-invited-lebedevs-villa-girls-26485306

    I really don’t understand the unequivocal support of Johnson when he is obviously utterly woeful.

    Now Rory Stewart I could vote for.
    because he is a rich lying adulterous cheating racist who, for some reason, working class racists look up to and aspire to be.

    he's taken the pissout of a whole tranche of English society who have deep throated him and Rees Mogg and, for some reason, still believe he's working for them whilst every day messing up their lives and laughing, openly, in their faces.

    you honestly couldn't make thisshit up.
    "Prove it with hard evidence"

    🤮
    So you can't? No surprise...
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    on a more important note, some good news to come out of Ukraine

    Unfortunately i don't think it would have hurt enough but couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke


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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,094
    Reports that Russia are now claiming they only ever wanted to secure Donbas and Crimea and their military campaign will now turn to securing those objectives.

    Be interesting how this develops.
    [Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    Reports that Russia are now claiming they only ever wanted to secure Donbas and Crimea and their military campaign will now turn to securing those objectives.

    Be interesting how this develops.

    yup - some General declared today that they had secured their primary objectives and were moving onto their main aim, as per DeV's post.

    Quite strange primary objectives - ie turn world opinion against you, get smashed to bits, destruction of your own economy and your President about to get charged with war crimes - but hey, if thats what they were after.

    Methinks they'll get smashed there for a bit as well and then negotiations will happen - tricky bit for the Ukrainians is balancing forces around all the fronts
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    MattFalle said:

    - tricky bit for the Ukrainians is balancing forces around all the fronts

    It will be tricky for the Russians, too. Not to mention that their morale will be even further down down the toilet than it is now...

  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,691
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
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    MattFalle said:

    - tricky bit for the Ukrainians is balancing forces around all the fronts

    It will be tricky for the Russians, too. Not to mention that their morale will be even further down down the toilet than it is now...

    agree completely.

    if it wasn't a #shitshow before, its getting even worse now.

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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,691
    Meanwhile...Russian attempts to join into Culture Wars that barely register outside of twitter and internet forums is just...so weird...?!?!

    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,495
    ddraver said:

    Meanwhile...Russian attempts to join into Culture Wars that barely register outside of twitter and internet forums is just...so weird...?!?!

    Will he start walking around with his tie down to his knees and wearing clothes he has slept in to complete the look?
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,263
    Let's not get our hopes up too much, but along with suggestions that Russia's ambitions are being reframed as only wanting to secure Donbas and Crimea as an outcome after all...

  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,127
    MattFalle said:

    Reports that Russia are now claiming they only ever wanted to secure Donbas and Crimea and their military campaign will now turn to securing those objectives.

    Be interesting how this develops.

    yup - some General declared today that they had secured their primary objectives and were moving onto their main aim, as per DeV's post.

    Quite strange primary objectives - ie turn world opinion against you, get smashed to bits, destruction of your own economy and your President about to get charged with war crimes - but hey, if thats what they were after.

    Methinks they'll get smashed there for a bit as well and then negotiations will happen - tricky bit for the Ukrainians is balancing forces around all the fronts
    How were their main objectives met by attacking Kyiv and Mariupol? That's like trying to scratch your back by grabbing your testicles.

  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,263

    MattFalle said:

    Reports that Russia are now claiming they only ever wanted to secure Donbas and Crimea and their military campaign will now turn to securing those objectives.

    Be interesting how this develops.

    yup - some General declared today that they had secured their primary objectives and were moving onto their main aim, as per DeV's post.

    Quite strange primary objectives - ie turn world opinion against you, get smashed to bits, destruction of your own economy and your President about to get charged with war crimes - but hey, if thats what they were after.

    Methinks they'll get smashed there for a bit as well and then negotiations will happen - tricky bit for the Ukrainians is balancing forces around all the fronts
    How were their main objectives met by attacking Kyiv and Mariupol? That's like trying to scratch your back by grabbing your testicles.


    Doesn't that work for you then?
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    When they've shrivelled up back inside you due to having your army crushed?
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,127
    As soon as I saw the word shriveled I thought of winter cycling. For some reason.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    When they've shrivelled up back inside you due to having your army crushed?

    or one of your President's "friends" has kicked them back in you for the same reason?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    As soon as I saw the word shriveled I thought of winter cycling. For some reason.

    just #wankitout
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    MattFalle said:

    Reports that Russia are now claiming they only ever wanted to secure Donbas and Crimea and their military campaign will now turn to securing those objectives.

    Be interesting how this develops.

    yup - some General declared today that they had secured their primary objectives and were moving onto their main aim, as per DeV's post.

    Quite strange primary objectives - ie turn world opinion against you, get smashed to bits, destruction of your own economy and your President about to get charged with war crimes - but hey, if thats what they were after.

    Methinks they'll get smashed there for a bit as well and then negotiations will happen - tricky bit for the Ukrainians is balancing forces around all the fronts
    How were their main objectives met by attacking Kyiv and Mariupol? That's like trying to scratch your back by grabbing your testicles.

    exactly.

    it all smells a bit fishy

    #fish
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,127
    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    Reports that Russia are now claiming they only ever wanted to secure Donbas and Crimea and their military campaign will now turn to securing those objectives.

    Be interesting how this develops.

    yup - some General declared today that they had secured their primary objectives and were moving onto their main aim, as per DeV's post.

    Quite strange primary objectives - ie turn world opinion against you, get smashed to bits, destruction of your own economy and your President about to get charged with war crimes - but hey, if thats what they were after.

    Methinks they'll get smashed there for a bit as well and then negotiations will happen - tricky bit for the Ukrainians is balancing forces around all the fronts
    How were their main objectives met by attacking Kyiv and Mariupol? That's like trying to scratch your back by grabbing your testicles.

    exactly.

    it all smells a bit fishy

    #fish
    Your last two hashtsgs have been wankitout and fish. Just sayin....
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    Reports that Russia are now claiming they only ever wanted to secure Donbas and Crimea and their military campaign will now turn to securing those objectives.

    Be interesting how this develops.

    yup - some General declared today that they had secured their primary objectives and were moving onto their main aim, as per DeV's post.

    Quite strange primary objectives - ie turn world opinion against you, get smashed to bits, destruction of your own economy and your President about to get charged with war crimes - but hey, if thats what they were after.

    Methinks they'll get smashed there for a bit as well and then negotiations will happen - tricky bit for the Ukrainians is balancing forces around all the fronts
    How were their main objectives met by attacking Kyiv and Mariupol? That's like trying to scratch your back by grabbing your testicles.

    exactly.

    it all smells a bit fishy

    #fish
    Your last two hashtsgs have been wankitout and fish. Just sayin....
    bored and hungry?

    #experiments
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.