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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,286
    edited March 2022
    ddraver said:

    MattFalle said:

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    Anyway, aside from the truisI've not really seen any major Ukrainian counters to really shift the state of play.

    they've started goung in over the past 24 hours and pushing back into Crimea as well.
    BBC report last night was strongly suggesting that taking Mariupol and so completing a land bridge to Crimea and blocking off Ukraine's access to the Black Sea may be the aim (this time)
    That would also require the taking of Odesa.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,691
    pblakeney said:

    ddraver said:

    MattFalle said:

    .

    Anyway, aside from the truisI've not really seen any major Ukrainian counters to really shift the state of play.

    they've started goung in over the past 24 hours and pushing back into Crimea as well.
    BBC report last night was strongly suggesting that taking Mariupol and so completing a land bridge to Crimea and blocking off Ukraine's access to the Black Sea may be the aim (this time)
    That would also require the taking of Odesa.
    Indeed, which is what they were hinting at too.

    I havent watched a BBC report on this - not for any conspiracy reasons, just don't watch TV news much any more - so I don't have much to compare it too in terms of how it might have changed
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    .
    nah fam, they've been there since day 1.

    this is just them now making the new Russian/Russian backed troops even more uncomfortable about going.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    ddraver said:

    pblakeney said:

    ddraver said:

    MattFalle said:

    .

    Anyway, aside from the truisI've not really seen any major Ukrainian counters to really shift the state of play.

    they've started goung in over the past 24 hours and pushing back into Crimea as well.
    BBC report last night was strongly suggesting that taking Mariupol and so completing a land bridge to Crimea and blocking off Ukraine's access to the Black Sea may be the aim (this time)
    That would also require the taking of Odesa.
    Indeed, which is what they were hinting at too.

    I havent watched a BBC report on this - not for any conspiracy reasons, just don't watch TV news much any more - so I don't have much to compare it too in terms of how it might have changed
    BBC has generally been good on the war.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,461
    Surely it would be effective for Russia to control access to the Black Sea by a naval blockade?
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Pross said:

    Surely it would be effective for Russia to control access to the Black Sea by a naval blockade?

    They have their eyes on part of Moldova
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,309
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    ddraver said:

    I want to know why bbc bitesize doesn't go into all the details of how different sulfur content affects the refining process. It's an outrage.

    In short - too long for stevo, mind - it's a PITA.

    Getting the sulphur out is expensive.

    Get it wet and it's become sulfuric acid which tends to play havoc with anything metal on the refinery (which I'm sure you're aware is a lot of it)

    Let it into the air and it become hydrogen sulphide which tends to quietly, but very effectively, unalive people.

    Working with H2S is a whole level of qualification above "normal" rig or refinery safety qualifications
    I can remember enough of my chemistry degree not to need patronising on this stuff. No centre leftie smartarse points for you again :)
    😆
    I do find it quite amusing when people go in for a spot of inverse intellectual snobbery with me :smile:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    .

    Pross said:

    Surely it would be effective for Russia to control access to the Black Sea by a naval blockade?

    They have their eyes on part of Moldova
    they have their eyes on lots of things but as we have seen, they're a bitshit.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,691
    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    ddraver said:

    I want to know why bbc bitesize doesn't go into all the details of how different sulfur content affects the refining process. It's an outrage.

    In short - too long for stevo, mind - it's a PITA.

    Getting the sulphur out is expensive.

    Get it wet and it's become sulfuric acid which tends to play havoc with anything metal on the refinery (which I'm sure you're aware is a lot of it)

    Let it into the air and it become hydrogen sulphide which tends to quietly, but very effectively, unalive people.

    Working with H2S is a whole level of qualification above "normal" rig or refinery safety qualifications
    I can remember enough of my chemistry degree not to need patronising on this stuff. No centre leftie smartarse points for you again :)
    😆
    I do find it quite amusing when people go in for a spot of inverse intellectual snobbery with me :smile:
    Unfortunately for you have so debased yourself over the past few years that no one takes you seriously anymore.

    Oh well :)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,309
    ddraver said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    ddraver said:

    I want to know why bbc bitesize doesn't go into all the details of how different sulfur content affects the refining process. It's an outrage.

    In short - too long for stevo, mind - it's a PITA.

    Getting the sulphur out is expensive.

    Get it wet and it's become sulfuric acid which tends to play havoc with anything metal on the refinery (which I'm sure you're aware is a lot of it)

    Let it into the air and it become hydrogen sulphide which tends to quietly, but very effectively, unalive people.

    Working with H2S is a whole level of qualification above "normal" rig or refinery safety qualifications
    I can remember enough of my chemistry degree not to need patronising on this stuff. No centre leftie smartarse points for you again :)
    😆
    I do find it quite amusing when people go in for a spot of inverse intellectual snobbery with me :smile:
    Unfortunately for you have so debased yourself over the past few years that no one takes you seriously anymore.

    Oh well :)
    More amusement for me - keep going :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    Russia's Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu has gone 'on the sick' according to the Daily Reich. Lots of chatter on Twitter etc about his absence as well. There are other rumours of house arrest. What's for definite is he hasn't been seen in public for 12 days and counting...
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,309

    Russia's Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu has gone 'on the sick' according to the Daily Reich. Lots of chatter on Twitter etc about his absence as well. There are other rumours of house arrest. What's for definite is he hasn't been seen in public for 12 days and counting...

    That's interesting. Especially as he was one of the possible successors to Putin in the event that Vlad was removed from power. Possible North Korean style pre-emptive purge of those high enough up to be a danger to the Dear Leader.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,264

    Russia's Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu has gone 'on the sick' according to the Daily Reich. Lots of chatter on Twitter etc about his absence as well. There are other rumours of house arrest. What's for definite is he hasn't been seen in public for 12 days and counting...


    He ought to check how safe his balcony is...
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,495
    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    ddraver said:

    I want to know why bbc bitesize doesn't go into all the details of how different sulfur content affects the refining process. It's an outrage.

    In short - too long for stevo, mind - it's a PITA.

    Getting the sulphur out is expensive.

    Get it wet and it's become sulfuric acid which tends to play havoc with anything metal on the refinery (which I'm sure you're aware is a lot of it)

    Let it into the air and it become hydrogen sulphide which tends to quietly, but very effectively, unalive people.

    Working with H2S is a whole level of qualification above "normal" rig or refinery safety qualifications
    I can remember enough of my chemistry degree not to need patronising on this stuff. No centre leftie smartarse points for you again :)
    😆
    I do find it quite amusing when people go in for a spot of inverse intellectual snobbery with me :smile:
    Surely inverse intellectual snobbery would be thinking you were cleverer than you are 😉
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,309
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    ddraver said:

    I want to know why bbc bitesize doesn't go into all the details of how different sulfur content affects the refining process. It's an outrage.

    In short - too long for stevo, mind - it's a PITA.

    Getting the sulphur out is expensive.

    Get it wet and it's become sulfuric acid which tends to play havoc with anything metal on the refinery (which I'm sure you're aware is a lot of it)

    Let it into the air and it become hydrogen sulphide which tends to quietly, but very effectively, unalive people.

    Working with H2S is a whole level of qualification above "normal" rig or refinery safety qualifications
    I can remember enough of my chemistry degree not to need patronising on this stuff. No centre leftie smartarse points for you again :)
    😆
    I do find it quite amusing when people go in for a spot of inverse intellectual snobbery with me :smile:
    Surely inverse intellectual snobbery would be thinking you were cleverer than you are 😉
    Nope, in my books it would be someone who is less intelligent/less knowledgeable being condescending/patronising to someone who is more intelligent/more knowledgeable. Not the first time I've experienced it on here, mind ;)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,286
    I'm getting mixed messages. Russia are being beaten backwards and taking a tanking, pun intended. Yet NATO are going to build up forces. Why? One battalion would do the job from what we've seen.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    Show of force and intent.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    pblakeney said:

    I'm getting mixed messages. Russia are being beaten backwards and taking a tanking, pun intended. Yet NATO are going to build up forces. Why? One battalion would do the job from what we've seen.

    One battalion would do what job?
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    Show of force and intent.

    justify increased defence spending.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,286

    Show of force and intent.

    Yeah, but the horse has bolted and it now seems less necessary. Forces are required but if Putin is getting his asshanded to him then raising the numbers is questionable.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    A constant reminder that this is only going in one direction and it's a good way for NATO to 'show up' without showing up (for understandable reasons)
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,461
    pblakeney said:

    I'm getting mixed messages. Russia are being beaten backwards and taking a tanking, pun intended. Yet NATO are going to build up forces. Why? One battalion would do the job from what we've seen.

    Getting ready to invade Russia now they've seen how bad their army is :wink:
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,691
    Same...

    mixed messages on twitter (?!), but not quite ready to believe the best yet

    🤞
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,495
    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    ddraver said:

    I want to know why bbc bitesize doesn't go into all the details of how different sulfur content affects the refining process. It's an outrage.

    In short - too long for stevo, mind - it's a PITA.

    Getting the sulphur out is expensive.

    Get it wet and it's become sulfuric acid which tends to play havoc with anything metal on the refinery (which I'm sure you're aware is a lot of it)

    Let it into the air and it become hydrogen sulphide which tends to quietly, but very effectively, unalive people.

    Working with H2S is a whole level of qualification above "normal" rig or refinery safety qualifications
    I can remember enough of my chemistry degree not to need patronising on this stuff. No centre leftie smartarse points for you again :)
    😆
    I do find it quite amusing when people go in for a spot of inverse intellectual snobbery with me :smile:
    Surely inverse intellectual snobbery would be thinking you were cleverer than you are 😉
    Nope, in my books it would be someone who is less intelligent/less knowledgeable being condescending/patronising to someone who is more intelligent/more knowledgeable. Not the first time I've experienced it on here, mind ;)
    😴
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    It’s a very effective weapon indeed.

    When Stugna related videos started popping up on Twitter they were called out as fake because of Arabic writing that appeared on the targeting screen. Turns out a huge shipment was due to be sent to Middle Eastern customers, but Ukraine had decided to hold onto them instead. Wise move.

  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    pblakeney said:

    Show of force and intent.

    Yeah, but the horse has bolted and it now seems less necessary. Forces are required but if Putin is getting his asshanded to him then raising the numbers is questionable.
    NATO peiodically builds up shitloads of forces in the region to massive numbers.

    2017 was a huge one, was meant to happen last year but got canned due to Covid.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.