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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    imatfaal wrote:
    Pinno wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    The Colombian champion's jersey - rarely seen in the WT peloton. Debuts on Sunday.

    I guess that's down to the SKY marketing machine and perhaps a little ego boosting on top.

    More that none of the Colombian road race winners have not been in WT teams recently - some Team Colombia and some lower teams. Surprising that none of the big names from Colombia recently have won - Darwin Attapuma is an ex-champion but it was before he was with a pro-team
    That was indeed my point. I can't remember the last time the Colombian colours were in a big race, aside from Uran in a TT.
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  • imatfaal
    imatfaal Posts: 2,716
    RichN95 wrote:
    imatfaal wrote:
    Pinno wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    The Colombian champion's jersey - rarely seen in the WT peloton. Debuts on Sunday.

    I guess that's down to the SKY marketing machine and perhaps a little ego boosting on top.

    More that none of the Colombian road race winners have not been in WT teams recently - some Team Colombia and some lower teams. Surprising that none of the big names from Colombia recently have won - Darwin Attapuma is an ex-champion but it was before he was with a pro-team
    That was indeed my point. I can't remember the last time the Colombian colours were in a big race, aside from Uran in a TT.

    The name Isreal Ochoa rings a bell - did he race in world tour?
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    imatfaal wrote:
    The name Isreal Ochoa rings a bell - did he race in world tour?
    No: http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/ri ... derid=1962
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  • imatfaal
    imatfaal Posts: 2,716
    Reynel Montoya in the 88 Vuelta
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,548
    Ben6899 wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    They really pushed the design envelope with that one.

    Not sure what you expected. You'll see from the photograph though, that it was well-judged.

    Absolutely class jersey.

    I agree, my comment was in response to Sky's Twitter feed announcement, which suggested it was some groundbreaking design.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,308
    imatfaal wrote:
    Reynel Montoya in the 88 Vuelta

    :shock:

    You do realise that level of knowledge is borderline nerd?
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    edited March 2017
    Pinno wrote:
    imatfaal wrote:
    Reynel Montoya in the 88 Vuelta

    :shock:

    You do realise that level of knowledge is borderline nerd?
    There's nothing borderline about it.
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,308
    RichN95 wrote:
    Pinno wrote:
    imatfaal wrote:
    Reynel Montoya in the 88 Vuelta

    :shock:

    You do realise that level of knowledge is borderline nerd?
    There's nothing borderline about it.

    :lol:

    Back OT: What's so ground breaking about it?
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    RichN95 wrote:
    Pinno wrote:
    imatfaal wrote:
    Reynel Montoya in the 88 Vuelta

    :shock:

    You do realise that level of knowledge is borderline nerd?
    There's nothing borderline about it.
    Question is, was it Google or genuine knowledge?

    I wasn't watching the vuelta in 1988 sadly as I was busy being born.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Pinno wrote:

    Back OT: What's so ground breaking about it?
    Who said it was ground-breaking? It's a standard Sky champions jersey - which the tend to do well.
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  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    andyp wrote:
    Ben6899 wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    They really pushed the design envelope with that one.

    Not sure what you expected. You'll see from the photograph though, that it was well-judged.

    Absolutely class jersey.

    I agree, my comment was in response to Sky's Twitter feed announcement, which suggested it was some groundbreaking design.

    Ah, gotcha! :)
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,308
    RichN95 wrote:
    imatfaal wrote:
    The name Isreal Ochoa rings a bell - did he race in world tour?
    No: http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/ri ... derid=1962

    Hang on, he was born in 1964. The records go back to 1999. If we presume that's when he started racing, he started at the age of 35 and retired at the age of 46? The mind boggles. Hang on...
    I looked in Wiki and the records there go back to 1993. If that is when he started, he had a 17 year career starting at the age of 29 and finishing at 46.
    Ludo Dierckxsens eat yer heart out.
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,308
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Pinno wrote:
    imatfaal wrote:
    Reynel Montoya in the 88 Vuelta

    :shock:

    You do realise that level of knowledge is borderline nerd?
    There's nothing borderline about it.
    Question is, was it Google or genuine knowledge?

    I wasn't watching the vuelta in 1988 sadly as I was busy being born.

    You mean yer Mum was busy. Some people :roll:
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  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    As long as it's not worn with white shorts, it's all good

    I don't mind white shorts. Apart from them getting covered in dirt quickly they can look good. No offence but I get the feeling some of this is just saying they don't like them as it seems to be popular on the internet
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    sherer wrote:
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    As long as it's not worn with white shorts, it's all good

    I don't mind white shorts. Apart from them getting covered in dirt quickly they can look good. No offence but I get the feeling some of this is just saying they don't like them as it seems to be popular on the internet

    No offence taken, my friend. I just really, really dislike them and always have :lol:

    But then if I had my way, I'd ban black socks, sloping top tubes, and anything that appeared after 1990... #42goingon82
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    Black socks I agree with, they need to be banned, as well as socks that are far too long
  • imatfaal
    imatfaal Posts: 2,716
    Pinno wrote:
    imatfaal wrote:
    Reynel Montoya in the 88 Vuelta

    :shock:

    You do realise that level of knowledge is borderline nerd?


    The borderline bit makes it a complement :-)

    And to your follow-up - I am much better at google than I am at remembering cycling stats; but most of the names of winners were so unknown that I was pretty sure they had never raced in Europe - I checked the ones that rang a bell
  • sloppyschleckonds
    sloppyschleckonds Posts: 8,019
    sherer wrote:
    Black socks I agree with, they need to be banned, as well as socks that are far too long

    A couple of chaps from Texas & Kilburn would disagree

    I quite like these:

    Assos-Cento-Sock-Evo8-Red.jpg
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  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    SloppySchleckonds wrote:
    sherer wrote:
    Black socks I agree with, they need to be banned, as well as socks that are far too long

    A couple of chaps from Texas & Kilburn would disagree

    Well they're wrong.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,308
    They look like a freebie from Texaco. Perhaps for every 100 gallons of 'gasoline' you buy, you get a free pair of socks.
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  • Paul 8v
    Paul 8v Posts: 5,458
    White shorts... It might be a popular thing to say on the Internet but they are truly hideous. Especially when it rains
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,308
    Paul 8v wrote:
    White shorts... It might be a popular thing to say on the Internet but they are truly hideous. Especially risky if the wearer has IBS.

    FTFY
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Paul 8v wrote:
    White shorts... It might be a popular thing to say on the Internet but they are truly hideous. Especially when it rains
    The one thing that the most rabid Sky hater must give them credit for is never using anything other than their usual black shorts with prize jerseys (aside from the Rapha band).
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  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,815
    Apologies if it has been said already, but may I say that Astana look a million times better this year with black shorts.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    MrB123 wrote:
    Apologies if it has been said already, but may I say that Astana look a million times better this year with black shorts.
    I keep thinking they're Gazprom though
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    RichN95 wrote:
    MrB123 wrote:
    Apologies if it has been said already, but may I say that Astana look a million times better this year with black shorts.
    I keep thinking they're Gazprom though

    They look good. But it's terrible branding for Astana/Expo whatever. You can't see any detail on who they are sponsored by.

    BMC on the other hand have got it spot on. Black shorts with a very visible white BMC on the arse... which in my view is the best sponsorship position in the peloton (unless you're going to win all the time).
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    dish_dash wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    MrB123 wrote:
    Apologies if it has been said already, but may I say that Astana look a million times better this year with black shorts.
    I keep thinking they're Gazprom though

    They look good. But it's terrible branding for Astana/Expo whatever. You can't see any detail on who they are sponsored by.

    BMC on the other hand have got it spot on. Black shorts with a very visible white BMC on the ars*... which in my view is the best sponsorship position in the peloton (unless you're going to win all the time).
    Surely Steve Cummings has the most marketable arse in the peloton - often seen on camera as he potters around at the back.
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    RichN95 wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    MrB123 wrote:
    Apologies if it has been said already, but may I say that Astana look a million times better this year with black shorts.
    I keep thinking they're Gazprom though

    They look good. But it's terrible branding for Astana/Expo whatever. You can't see any detail on who they are sponsored by.

    BMC on the other hand have got it spot on. Black shorts with a very visible white BMC on the ars*... which in my view is the best sponsorship position in the peloton (unless you're going to win all the time).
    Surely Steve Cummings has the most marketable ars* in the peloton - often seen on camera as he potters around at the back.

    I do love a bit of Nederburg wine.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,308
    RichN95 wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    MrB123 wrote:
    Apologies if it has been said already, but may I say that Astana look a million times better this year with black shorts.
    I keep thinking they're Gazprom though

    They look good. But it's terrible branding for Astana/Expo whatever. You can't see any detail on who they are sponsored by.

    BMC on the other hand have got it spot on. Black shorts with a very visible white BMC on the ars*... which in my view is the best sponsorship position in the peloton (unless you're going to win all the time).
    Surely Steve Cummings has the most marketable ars* in the peloton - often seen on camera as he potters around at the back.

    You got to admire Steve Cummings; he just pulls an opportunistic one out of he bag once in a while. Lets hope he can do it again at 36 (March 19th).
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  • Paul 8v
    Paul 8v Posts: 5,458
    He's had some cracking wins to be fair
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