Transfers 2017 : Rumours and fact

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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    RichN95 wrote:
    Looking at Roche's career, He's had five teams in 12 years. The only one he had signed a second contract with was AG2R.

    He left CA because they folded and spent 8 years at AG2R... not quite the journeyman you're implying...

    Bernie left Sky last year for the same reason, non? No Tour...
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    dish_dash wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Looking at Roche's career, He's had five teams in 12 years. The only one he had signed a second contract with was AG2R.

    He left CA because they folded and spent 8 years at AG2R... not quite the journeyman you're implying...
    He was a AG2R for four years 2009-12 and he was at Cofidis before CA. I was just stating facts, no implication.
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    yeah... only 4 at AG2R...
  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    dish_dash wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Looking at Roche's career, He's had five teams in 12 years. The only one he had signed a second contract with was AG2R.

    He left CA because they folded and spent 8 years at AG2R... not quite the journeyman you're implying...

    Bernie left Sky last year for the same reason, non? No Tour...


    Yeppa. Took a little pay cut in the process IIRC, but riding the Tour again meant more
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    Stijn Vandenbergh to AG2R according to Patrick Leferve.

    That'll go well.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    I should add that it's looking likely that Phil Gilbert will be riding in Etixx colours next season.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    andyp wrote:
    I should add that it's looking likely that Phil Gilbert will be riding in Etixx colours next season.

    Yes. I'm not sure if it's a good or bad thing. He really needs a change though.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    iainf72 wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    I should add that it's looking likely that Phil Gilbert will be riding in Etixx colours next season.

    Yes. I'm not sure if it's a good or bad thing. He really needs a change though.
    Bad surely. Him, Martin and Alaphilippe in the same team? I don't see how that works.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    Have Gilbert as the leader at MSR and give him a free role at Flanders. Then if he's still got form, have him as a wildcard in the Ardennes.
  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,718
    Gibert and Martin and Alaphillippe for the Ardennes.

    Super Sep and Boonen and Terpstra and Vandenberge for the cobbles

    Etixx are going to do well to cock up April 2017 as badly as 2016.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,652
    RichN95 wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    I should add that it's looking likely that Phil Gilbert will be riding in Etixx colours next season.

    Yes. I'm not sure if it's a good or bad thing. He really needs a change though.
    Bad surely. Him, Martin and Alaphilippe in the same team? I don't see how that works.

    He's 34 and has barely registered for the last couple of seasons. I can't see him bringing anything to Etixx that they haven't got in abundance already.
    Warning No formatter is installed for the format
  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    andyp wrote:
    Have Gilbert as the leader at MSR and give him a free role at Flanders. Then if he's still got form, have him as a wildcard in the Ardennes.



    Re MSR, I'll just leave this name here:

    Gaviria
  • mcstumpy
    mcstumpy Posts: 298
    Richmond Racer 2 wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    Have Gilbert as the leader at MSR and give him a free role at Flanders. Then if he's still got form, have him as a wildcard in the Ardennes.



    Re MSR, I'll just leave this name here:

    Gaviria

    Indeed. I'd bet the farm on him right now
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    jimmythecuckoo wrote:
    Gibert and Martin and Alaphillippe for the Ardennes.

    Super Sep and Boonen and Terpstra and Vandenberge for the cobbles
    Etixx are going to do well to fool up April 2017 as badly as 2016.

    I bet they'll give it a damn good go, though...

    Having Gilbert will only add to the general mayhem there. Too many chiefs, which has been their problem for years.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Lefevre dropping hints that he only has sponsorship until end of 2017. Coucke sold Omega Pharma (which owns Etixx) in 2014 and I wonder if that had a clause saying that the cycling sponsorship had to continue for two more years. Coucke now has to put his hand in his own pocket if he wants to keep sponsoring... Lefevre has also been muttering about retiring.

    Wonder what the future holds for the team post-2017... could make for some interesting transfer moves for 2018...
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    The team is owned by Zdenek Bakala, no? With Leferve as the manager. Bakala is worth a lot.
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    andyp wrote:
    The team is owned by Zdenek Bakala, no? With Leferve as the manager. Bakala is worth a lot.

    Good point. I'd forgotten about him.

    Just reading up on E-QS' board - actually the operating company is called Decolef Lux Sarl.

    It's a motley crew:
    Owner - Zdenek Bakala - Coal Mining & Media Investments
    Chairman - Bessel Kok - Formerly Telecoms Executive and Chess Management
    Vice-Chairman - Eddy Merckx
    CEO - Patrick Lefevre
    Board Member - Hans-Joerg Rudloff - Formerly head of Barclays' Investment Bank
    Board Member - Derk Saur - Founder of the Moscow Times and now Deputy Chairman of RBC (Russian Media House)
    Board Member - David Paul - Investment manager and CEO of Bakala's family investment fund
    Board Member - JP Smith - Presumably not the basketball player...
    Secretary-General - Auret van Zyl - Lawyer and Transaction/M&A Manager. Involved in a number of other Bakala entities.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Jon Dibben is going to ride as a stagliere for the rest of the season for Cannondale.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    The Bahrain team is official, more details on Monday.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    andyp wrote:
    The Bahrain team is official, more details on Monday.

    Wrecking Astana's claim to be the dodgiest team in terms of human rights....
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    RichN95 wrote:
    Jon Dibben is going to ride as a stagliere for the rest of the season for Cannondale.


    Interesting
  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    andyp wrote:
    The Bahrain team is official, more details on Monday.


    Ach balls
  • RonB
    RonB Posts: 3,984
    Richmond Racer 2 wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    The Bahrain team is official, more details on Monday.


    Ach balls

    Are they new sponsors? Another German lotto company perhaps?
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    andyp wrote:
    The Bahrain team is official, more details on Monday.

    Are they doing a women's team as well?
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    iainf72 wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    The Bahrain team is official, more details on Monday.

    Wrecking Astana's claim to be the dodgiest team in terms of human rights....

    My sentiments exactly.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    The Bahrain team is official, more details on Monday.

    Are they doing a women's team as well?


    Bravo!
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    The Bahrain team is official, more details on Monday.

    Are they doing a women's team as well?

    Strong paralympian squad by all accounts.
    Team My Man 2018: David gaudu, Pierre Latour, Romain Bardet, Thibaut pinot, Alexandre Geniez, Florian Senechal, Warren Barguil, Benoit Cosnefroy
  • secretsqirrel
    secretsqirrel Posts: 2,122
    Timoid. wrote:
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    The Bahrain team is official, more details on Monday.

    Are they doing a women's team as well?


    Bravo!

    Astana has a women's team. Sky doesn't.

    Just sayin' :?
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    The_Boy wrote:
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    The Bahrain team is official, more details on Monday.

    Are they doing a women's team as well?

    Strong paralympian squad by all accounts.

    :wink:
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    SecretSqirrel wrote:
    Timoid. wrote:
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    The Bahrain team is official, more details on Monday.

    Are they doing a women's team as well?


    Bravo!

    Astana has a women's team. Sky doesn't.

    Just sayin' :?


    Yeah, we can tell from the riders being popped

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