Donald Trump
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Nothing to do with me, he was addressing Jesus. I guess he means Corbyn - the initials JC are exactly the same.Pinno wrote:ddraver wrote:Jesus, the concept of time and place really mean very little to you...
I am beginning to think Stevo works in Whitehall and is paid by Cameron himself."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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Getting just a little bit tedious now.0 -
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The awareness of his vulgarity and nous deficieny in the first para. The parallel with those who voted in Hitler in the last para.Rick Chasey wrote:Stevo 666 wrote:At least those Republican voters have a reasonable degree of awareness about Trump, his shortcomings and what might go wrong if he is elected.
I don't see any of that in the letter."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
If you think the alternative to voting in Hilter is worse, you fundamentally don't understand what either option is or means.
If you think Trump is moderate, you don't understand what moderate means.
So no, there isn't.0 -
Trump is a freakshow and is a outcome of the stale political process and the disengaged public. A Farage on steroids.
He's unelectable as the President and will only galvanise the opposition in the election in November which makes the democrat nominee a certainty.
It's now how do the Republican Party return to relevance and an authenticity which is lacking in their choice political candidates and an outcome of a party which has lost its way and the on the journey the electorate as well.
Another Clinton in office, better than The Donald, but that's hardly a high bar.“Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring”
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I didn't think either. Just pointing out evidence to support what I said above, that there is a degree of awareness demonstrated. Read it again and you might get my point.Rick Chasey wrote:If you think the alternative to voting in Hilter is worse, you fundamentally don't understand what either option is or means.
If you think Trump is moderate, you don't understand what moderate means.
So no, there isn't."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Really not a fan. She's cut from the same cloth as Cameron, Osbourne, Hunt etc who whatever you think about politics and however you vote you cannot think they re not just CUUUHHHUUNNNTTTstables of the first order. She believes in nothing except that she should be in charge. To continue the Nazi analogy she'd be the one giving up Anne Frank if she thought it would win her more favourRick Chasey wrote:A lot of anti-Clinton chat here - why?
To steal a quote, I feel like her ambition will die the second she is elected president, the next 4 years will just be an afterpartyWe're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Forget what the Americans will have to endure under HC (who cares?), it is imperative for all concerned that HC maintains the progress Obama has made diplomatically such as with Iran for example. Obama's lack of a desire for conflict has kept a lid on any escalation of hostilities towards Putin. Internationally, he has kept the US in good standing. All of which matters not one jot with the American public because there is such a high percentage of Rednecks and idiots who's noises drown out the intelligent 'liberals'.
Bush jnr obliterated the tri-partite talks with Isreal that Clinton had set up and was to a certain degree 'working' when he said "You either with us or against us". Bush was such an idiot of a President and the option of Trump is actually worse.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
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Really not a fan. She's cut from the same cloth as Cameron, Osbourne, Hunt etc who whatever you think about politics and however you vote you cannot think they re not just CUUUHHHUUNNNTTTstables of the first order. She believes in nothing except that she should be in charge. To continue the Nazi analogy she'd be the one giving up Anne Frank if she thought it would win her more favourRick Chasey wrote:A lot of anti-Clinton chat here - why?
To steal a quote, I feel like her ambition will die the second she is elected president, the next 4 years will just be an afterparty
She and her husband make an odious pair. The unsecured email server she had installed has potentially shocking ramifications. Ed Snowden gets to freeze his ass off in Russia whilst she runs for president??????
Benghazi? Even a UK Foreign Secretary would find himself on the back benches after that debacle.
Her brothers get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars from crooks and racketeers who just coincidentally receive Presidential pardons from her husband.
The scandal and lying just follow them. She even lies when she doesn't need to - landing under gunfire in Bosnia for example.
Claiming to have lost all the paperwork pertaining to her links to a client of her law firm when it was supposed to be handed over to the FBI and then it miraculously turning up in the White House some time later.
The internet is awash with stories on this pair. Even if you discount the vast majority as being conspiratorial, there is enough reading to keep anyone going for a while.0 -
^ That said, given the option Bally - would you honestly prefer Trump in the Whitehouse?seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
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Pinno, Trump would be a disaster. The only grounds I could find to vote for Clinton is that she isn't Trump.0
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leaving Iran free to do what the hell they pleasePinno wrote:Forget what the Americans will have to endure under HC (who cares?), it is imperative for all concerned that HC maintains the progress Obama has made diplomatically such as with Iran for example.
leaving Russia free to do what the hell they pleasePinno wrote:Obama's lack of a desire for conflict has kept a lid on any escalation of hostilities towards Putin.
Among people who are happy to see Russia, Iran etc. free to do what the hell they please. And there's a pretty good case that his policies - and more, the way he's gone about getting them pushed through, his contempt for his opponents, his willingness to see American influence around the world reduced - have contributed heavily to the rise of TrumpismPinno wrote:Internationally, he has kept the US in good standing.
Useful tip whenever someone uses the word Redneck: imagine how the sentence would look if you substitute it with a word like "Black" . Essentially: you are guilty of bigotry here.Pinno wrote:All of which matters not one jot with the American public because there is such a high percentage of Rednecks and idiots who's noises drown out the intelligent 'liberals'.
Well there are some things I couldn't disagree with much...Pinno wrote:Bush jnr obliterated the tri-partite talks with Isreal that Clinton had set up and was to a certain degree 'working' when he said "You either with us or against us". Bush was such an idiot of a President and the option of Trump is actually worse.0 -
So, let me get this right are you saying Iran and Russia should only do what what the west decides is right for them to do, behave? It seems to me when the west decides to intervene in places Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya et al, they make as big a c0ck up as Russia and Iran could potentially do.bompington wrote:
leaving Iran free to do what the hell they pleasePinno wrote:Forget what the Americans will have to endure under HC (who cares?), it is imperative for all concerned that HC maintains the progress Obama has made diplomatically such as with Iran for example.
leaving Russia free to do what the hell they pleasePinno wrote:Obama's lack of a desire for conflict has kept a lid on any escalation of hostilities towards Putin.All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0 -
Coming from you, no. Ever since you had your little sense of humour failure over my 'Join the Labour party' thread you've been pretty much the same. If you don't like my post above, tough.ddraver wrote:"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:A lot of anti-Clinton chat here - why?
Likes dropping bombs - or getting the USAF to drop them for her.
Some serious anti-freedom moves (e.g. introducing legislation which would have meant that people desecrating the US flag would face a year in prison and a $100k fine).
Pro-action to tackle global warming but also a supporter of offshore drilling and fracking, accepts millions of dollars from oil companies and refusing to either support or oppose the Keystone XL pipeline.
Pro-death penalty.
Mad, staring, psychotic eyes.0 -
Calm down Bompington/Bianchimoon. I said:
"Obama's lack of a desire for conflict has kept a lid on any escalation of hostilities towards Putin. "
Which is quite different from:
"Obama has escalated the tensions with Iran and Russia to the extent we are now back into a cold war". Which is what Trump would do, instantly FWIW.
Now, as far as Iran is concerned, the US has for years demonised and entrenched views regarding them. They are quite a moderate country. They have a good education system, women before the reign of successive Ayatollah's, had freedoms over and above the like's of Saudi (our super duper humanistic allies) and all the time that US foreign policy decreed Iran as a member of the Axis of Evil, the Ayatollah's reigned supreme. It looks like those days are over and making enemies of them does no good whatsoever and it would quickly descend back to that should US foreign policy change.
Look at the recent incident with a US dinghy/boat, whatever it was, when they strayed into Iranian waters, it was resolved amicably in 48 hours. That would never have happened 5 years ago.
I have known a number of Iranians and they are moderate, well educated and far removed form the devil incarnate that the west portrays them as.
A bigot?! Are you a Bigot regarding the Iranians? Touche sir.
America - there is a huge number of gun touting Americans intent on keeping their guns despite the increasing atrocities. There is still a huge black/white divide. There is still a huge underclass. They still don't have a health care system because 'not having a choice of doctor' would be akin to Communism even if he was free.. etc etc The term 'Rednecks' is a general term that I have used for the gun touting, knee-jerk sector of society. If you want me to use a different term, just let me know.
I see so little difference between the fundamentalist Christians on one side and the fundamentalist muslims on the other. They are both invidious and they both cause division and heartache. One does it under the banner of 'freedom' and the other under the banner of some twisted interpretation of Islam. The common denominator: Religion or at least, the interpretation of what some mythical deity is supposed to have said.
Let's talk about Guantanamo bay and funding Iraq when it suited them and then invading them when they became naughty boys etc etc. US foreign policy has stunk for years. I hate ISIS but I just wonder to what extent considering the sheer scale of interference that the West has metered upon them, that they have come about as a direct result of our interference - the common denominator: Oil and Power.
Which brings me full circle. Any future American president will have a very hard job maintaining the diplomatic balance between what is becoming a really complex world. In that sense, Obama has been one of the least confrontational presidents and Trump would be the opposite.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
I think you've mis read my post?Pinno wrote:Calm down Bompington/Bianchimoon. I said:All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0 -
bianchimoon wrote:
I think you've mis read my post?Pinno wrote:Calm down Bompington/Bianchimoon. I said:
I'll back pedal and look at it again.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
Back pedalling done. I did mis read it. I'll hold my hands up for that one.
I think we sing from the same hymn sheet. However, i'm not asking you to go on a date.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
Pinno wrote:Back pedalling done. I did mis read it. I'll hold my hands up for that one.
I think we sing from the same hymn sheet. However, i'm not asking you to go on a date.
All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0 -
Nope, just comparing the Republican voters and Labour members on a particular point. Like I said above, if you dont like it that's tough.orraloon wrote:"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Pinno wrote:America - there is a huge number of gun touting Americans intent on keeping their guns despite the increasing atrocities. There is still a huge black/white divide. There is still a huge underclass. They still don't have a health care system because 'not having a choice of doctor' would be akin to Communism even if he was free.. etc etc The term 'Rednecks' is a general term that I have used for the gun touting, knee-jerk sector of society. If you want me to use a different term, just let me know.
I could live with you using the term American.0
