Donald Trump
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Video has been cut. Shame.briantrumpet said:Haha. What a snowflake....
Snowflake.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
The more I read about this, the more I think the key point is not that a selection of neo-nazis and Trump sightseers barged their way into the Capitol but that even after that, 8 Senators and over 100 Representatives voted to try to overturn the election result. The whole thing also feels like a set up for how that part of the Republican party will contest the next election: that the last one was stolen from them.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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...1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
The more footage that comes out, the more it looks like a ragtag band of radicalised sightseers with some much more sinister elements in it using them as cover - it looks like it was very close to being a lot, lot worse.rjsterry said:The more I read about this, the more I think the key point is not that a selection of neo-nazis and Trump sightseers barged their way into the Capitol but that even after that, 8 Senators and over 100 Representatives voted to try to overturn the election result. The whole thing also feels like a set up for how that part of the Republican party will contest the next election: that the last one was stolen from them.
And yes, after that, two thirds of the Republicans in the house stuck with the false narrative that had brought them there.
And Pence is still not breaking with Trump after a mob he incited went searching for Pence chanting they were going to hang him.0 -
kingstongraham said:
Not in public, but they're apparently not spoken since Wednesday.rjsterry said:
And Pence is still not breaking with Trump after a mob he incited went searching for Pence chanting they were going to hang him.0 -
kingstongraham said:
The more footage that comes out, the more it looks like a ragtag band of radicalised sightseers with some much more sinister elements in it using them as cover - it looks like it was very close to being a lot, lot worse.
https://youtu.be/gjjqzPZp67s
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That will teach him.elbowloh said:
Not in public, but they're apparently not spoken since Wednesday.kingstongraham said:
And Pence is still not breaking with Trump after a mob he incited went searching for Pence chanting they were going to hang him.
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kingstongraham said:
That will teach him.elbowloh said:
Not in public, but they're apparently not spoken since Wednesday.kingstongraham said:
And Pence is still not breaking with Trump after a mob he incited went searching for Pence chanting they were going to hang him.
I'm not inclined to give any of the people who supported Trump an inch, but it's not entirely inconceivable that Pence is justifiably terrified of the consequences of bringing Trump down. That he might also deserve being in a tight spot would not lessen the fear.0 -
Am hearing that corporate America is pulling funding donations from the Republican Party and house members who voted against certification.
Clearly they are part of the conspiracy of aliens from the future disguised as humans who are now running our major companies.0 -
I honestly think removing Trump now will do more harm than good. He's going anyway.
Early removing through the 25th amendment or impeachment will just make his most ardent supports even more entrenched in their view that the election was stolen and there is a conspiracy to get rid of Trump through any means possible.0 -
Just put him in a publicity vacuum (which is already happening) and let the days count down.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I don't think it helps to indulge them any further.elbowloh said:I honestly think removing Trump now will do more harm than good. He's going anyway.
Early removing through the 25th amendment or impeachment will just make his most ardent supports even more entrenched in their view that the election was stolen and there is a conspiracy to get rid of Trump through any means possible.0 -
elbowloh said:
I honestly think removing Trump now will do more harm than good. He's going anyway.
Early removing through the 25th amendment or impeachment will just make his most ardent supports even more entrenched in their view that the election was stolen and there is a conspiracy to get rid of Trump through any means possible.
I think that this is the calculus Pelosi is making - trying to make sure he can't use what power he has left to wreck what he's leaving behind, but setting things up for a judicial reckoning once he's lost those levers. At least if the Senate part of the impeachment process comes after 20 Jan, the Senate programme won't be dictated by McConnell.
It's both hilarious and mind boggling that those who egged on the insurrection are already calling for 'unity & healing', trying to bypass the consequences of their actions, as if nothing happened.0 -
A lot of it is about denying him everything an ex president is entitled to - the secret service protection, the pension, the after dinner talk stuff, potentially having a library named after him.
they just want him gone and for him to be officially 100% the worst Pres. ever..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I suppose it does mean he can't pardon himself before he leaves office...and also stops him from running again in 2024.0
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Even if he can pardon himself you are correct my friend.elbowloh said:I suppose it does mean he can't pardon himself before he leaves office...and also stops him from running again in 2024.
And being able to pardon himself or not doesn't actually matter: he'll sign the paperwork and if they do decide to prosecute he'll draw the legal shenanigans out so long they'll just give up.
Look at his tax returns - they've been after them for 4 years and nada, zip, nilch, nowt. And no, the Washington Post publishing bits doesn't count - its the official stuff they are failing to get, nit journalistic inadmissable in court findings.....The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Lets see what Deutsche Bank do......First.Aspect said:Am hearing that corporate America is pulling funding donations from the Republican Party and house members who voted against certification.
Clearly they are part of the conspiracy of aliens from the future disguised as humans who are now running our major companies..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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MattFalle said:
Lets see what Deutsche Bank do......First.Aspect said:Am hearing that corporate America is pulling funding donations from the Republican Party and house members who voted against certification.
Clearly they are part of the conspiracy of aliens from the future disguised as humans who are now running our major companies.
Yes, that's going to be interesting. Things could change very quickly if they think he's about to lose a lot of what he's claiming to be worth. I think they might be getting a little twitchy right now.0 -
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rick_chasey said:
The one thing that DB can be relied upon is to disappoint you.
Appalling organisation.
Quite probably, but they'll still try to cut their losses if they see Trump's clout/wealth waning. They'll not do it for any moral reason.0 -
DB are a lot more experienced in ars* covering than Trump et al are - do not hold out any hopes they will pull through with anything helpful.
If they do, great, but I wouldn't hold your breath.0 -
They sponsored Ullrich back in the day, he used to disappoint me too.rick_chasey said:The one thing that DB can be relied upon is to disappoint you.
Appalling organisation.2 -
tbf Richard, you've only ever dealt with tbe lowest reaches of the personnel department dealing with filing clerks, etc, so I don't suspect you show up much on their (bike)radar...rick_chasey said:The one thing that DB can be relied upon is to disappoint you.
Appalling organisation..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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and how would you have dealt with the USA if youd told Trump to do one?kingstongraham said:Yes, we have to deal with the country, not fawn over its leader.
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id like not to see this guy but he represents a very large body of opinion. just not mine.kingstongraham said:
What is your opinion of this still being there?john80 said:I don't think twitter takes an editorial decision if it takes people off for consistently posting false information. Even with the highest of thresholds trump should have been barred years ago. The quantity of easily disprovable claims is the real problem with social media. If the flick is for breaching rules such as not inciting riots then is this really an editorial decision. In my view it is breaching terms of use.
I think they are making editorial decisions, and they should be doing more. They should be kicking off anyone who is consistently abusive and threatening.0 -
that essay on the matter aligns with your opinions. If that makes it excellent great!rick_chasey said:https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/01/capitol-riot-senior-trump-official-calls-him-a-fascist.html
This essay on the matter is excellent.0 -
Your crush on a pseudonym is weird.MattFalle said:
tbf Richard, you've only ever dealt with tbe lowest reaches of the personnel department dealing with filing clerks, etc, so I don't suspect you show up much on their (bike)radar...rick_chasey said:The one thing that DB can be relied upon is to disappoint you.
Appalling organisation.0 -
I'm glad you read it. What was it you disagreed with?david37 said:
that essay on the matter aligns with your opinions. If that makes it excellent great!rick_chasey said:https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/01/capitol-riot-senior-trump-official-calls-him-a-fascist.html
This essay on the matter is excellent.0 -
I think there is a position between those two.david37 said:
and how would you have dealt with the USA if youd told Trump to do one?kingstongraham said:Yes, we have to deal with the country, not fawn over its leader.
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