Donald Trump
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Part of me does feel that there is value in government being able to speak directly to the governed.rick_chasey said:TBH it wouldn’t be a bad thing if they banned all people in government.
No PMs, no MPs. The lot.
Do they even need to be on Twitter.
The past 4 years have somewhat challenged that belief.0 -
When you're discussing cancel culture it should be in the context that the people who 'stormed' the Capitol building were every bit as radicalized by online content as the young Muslim who straps on the suicide vest.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
I agree it’s not legally enforceable or anything they’ve committed to.Jezyboy said:I'm not sure Twitter has any obligation to follow the precident they set for themselves though?
It's an interesting moment, shows politicians probably still have to keep some ties with traditional media, and shows that Twitter won't stand for being a complete free for all, no matter how big a draw you are.
However, it will get referenced at later points when legislation is debated or a court case comes to bear and so on. The decisions made this week will be used as benchmarks for all sorts of discussion.
They could potentially become a de facto standard for defining the boundaries of social media companies responsibility.
The debate around free speech is perpetual and this is no different. But the social media companies have now established a line. Neither side will forget that and it is significant due to its high profile.
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At the moment, Twitter's playing whack-a-mole with Trump, suspending any account he's trying to use to circumvent his ban.
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Incredible isn't it?
A US president reacting just like the average troll who finds himself banned from an internet forum."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
blazing_saddles said:
Incredible isn't it?
A US president reacting just like the average troll who finds himself banned from an internet forum.
He always was a troll - a lot of the things he did was just to get a reaction from people who cared about norms 'n' stuff. It's just not often that people like that become POTUS, rather than just pleasuring themselves on a minor cycling forum.0 -
Lol - Twitter only decided to not stand for it days before he ceases to be PresidentJezyboy said:I'm not sure Twitter has any obligation to follow the precident they set for themselves though?
It's an interesting moment, shows politicians probably still have to keep some ties with traditional media, and shows that Twitter won't stand for being a complete free for all, no matter how big a draw you are.1 -
surrey_commuter said:
Lol - Twitter only decided to not stand for it days before he ceases to be PresidentJezyboy said:I'm not sure Twitter has any obligation to follow the precident they set for themselves though?
It's an interesting moment, shows politicians probably still have to keep some ties with traditional media, and shows that Twitter won't stand for being a complete free for all, no matter how big a draw you are.
Quite. A bit like all the Republicans who have suddenly decided that Trump's behaviour has 'crossed a line'...0 -
Can we add political parties?rick_chasey said:
Ok shall we list all the things you don’t need but do do?TheBigBean said:
And my comment was a reference to everyone.rick_chasey said:
My comment was a reference to governing.TheBigBean said:
Does anyone need to be on Twitter?rick_chasey said:TBH it wouldn’t be a bad thing if they banned all people in government.
No PMs, no MPs. The lot.
Do they even need to be on Twitter.
That seems really constructive.
I’ll start: replying to my comment with a pointless one that misses the point.
Then you'd have elected politicians representing their constituents instead of a party.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I suspect that would be too difficult to police.pblakeney said:
Can we add political parties?rick_chasey said:
Ok shall we list all the things you don’t need but do do?TheBigBean said:
And my comment was a reference to everyone.rick_chasey said:
My comment was a reference to governing.TheBigBean said:
Does anyone need to be on Twitter?rick_chasey said:TBH it wouldn’t be a bad thing if they banned all people in government.
No PMs, no MPs. The lot.
Do they even need to be on Twitter.
That seems really constructive.
I’ll start: replying to my comment with a pointless one that misses the point.
Then you'd have elected politicians representing their constituents instead of a party.
In the past I didn’t know if I was still a member of the Lib Dems or not. It’s not like a subscription - your membership just expires after a while, so if I didn’t know without looking it up
how would Twitter?0 -
I'm talking about political parties existing at all. No Con, Lab, L/D......in this country, none.rick_chasey said:
I suspect that would be too difficult to police.pblakeney said:
Can we add political parties?rick_chasey said:
Ok shall we list all the things you don’t need but do do?TheBigBean said:
And my comment was a reference to everyone.rick_chasey said:
My comment was a reference to governing.TheBigBean said:
Does anyone need to be on Twitter?rick_chasey said:TBH it wouldn’t be a bad thing if they banned all people in government.
No PMs, no MPs. The lot.
Do they even need to be on Twitter.
That seems really constructive.
I’ll start: replying to my comment with a pointless one that misses the point.
Then you'd have elected politicians representing their constituents instead of a party.
In the past I didn’t know if I was still a member of the Lib Dems or not. It’s not like a subscription - your membership just expires after a while, so if I didn’t know without looking it up
how would Twitter?
#movingthediscussionforwardThe above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Oh.
It’s a big like cycling teams.
You can’t police people working together in an organised way so why ban something that’ll happen anyway and you can’t enforce?
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Stevo: https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tried-to-stage-coup-former-wh-adviser-fiona-hill-2021-1
Here’s what I read0 -
He did last longer than coopster though.briantrumpet said:blazing_saddles said:Incredible isn't it?
A US president reacting just like the average troll who finds himself banned from an internet forum.
He always was a troll - a lot of the things he did was just to get a reaction from people who cared about norms 'n' stuff. It's just not often that people like that become POTUS, rather than just pleasuring themselves on a minor cycling forum.0 -
Trump should maybe have a room set up in the white house where he could make statements from. That would be a way around the twitter ban.0
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I personally am glad it has come to an end. The main problem with Twitter is that once they get followers what they say is very hard to challenge. He has spent 4 years walking out of interviews where anything he said was challenged. This is not good for democracy. You can't have a conversation about a zebra standing in front of you if the other guy insists it's a horse.0
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There is a difference and some ground between MPs converging where it suits and diverging where they don't, to a party Whip.rick_chasey said:Oh.
It’s a big like cycling teams.
You can’t police people working together in an organised way so why ban something that’ll happen anyway and you can’t enforce?The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
rick_chasey said:
Stevo: https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tried-to-stage-coup-former-wh-adviser-fiona-hill-2021-1
Here’s what I read
Until I heard his remarks from his speech on the 6th, I wasn't entirely convinced. The only thing that has prevented Trump and his goons from subverting American democracy fatally was incompetence and stupidity, not lack of intent. A stupid arsonist who burns down the wrong building is still an arsonist.
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Thanks. Possibly that what he hoped would happen although if you're only hoping the military would joining its a pretty badly planned one. Also the language used such as "suggested" does point to there being an element of speculation in that article.rick_chasey said:Stevo: https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tried-to-stage-coup-former-wh-adviser-fiona-hill-2021-1
Here’s what I read"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Are you suggesting you don't think he'd still generate countless clicks after Biden takes over?surrey_commuter said:
Lol - Twitter only decided to not stand for it days before he ceases to be PresidentJezyboy said:I'm not sure Twitter has any obligation to follow the precident they set for themselves though?
It's an interesting moment, shows politicians probably still have to keep some ties with traditional media, and shows that Twitter won't stand for being a complete free for all, no matter how big a draw you are.0 -
its almost like other points of view cant be valid or something.rick_chasey said:0 -
Ahhh this makes things clearerrick_chasey said:
I suspect that would be too difficult to police.pblakeney said:
Can we add political parties?rick_chasey said:
Ok shall we list all the things you don’t need but do do?TheBigBean said:
And my comment was a reference to everyone.rick_chasey said:
My comment was a reference to governing.TheBigBean said:
Does anyone need to be on Twitter?rick_chasey said:TBH it wouldn’t be a bad thing if they banned all people in government.
No PMs, no MPs. The lot.
Do they even need to be on Twitter.
That seems really constructive.
I’ll start: replying to my comment with a pointless one that misses the point.
Then you'd have elected politicians representing their constituents instead of a party.
In the past I didn’t know if I was still a member of the Lib Dems or not. It’s not like a subscription - your membership just expires after a while, so if I didn’t know without looking it up
how would Twitter?
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Arrested as per CNN, furniture maker from Florida and then he tried to sell it on flea bay.
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They're really not very bright... read down the thread... this chap brought his mum with him, then stuck it on Facebook.diamonddog said:
Arrested as per CNN, furniture maker from Florida and then he tried to sell it on flea bay.
Numpty
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Bless him, he needed his mum to tie his shoe laces and make sure he got home ok.0
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tbf, they would have traced him pretty quick by the patches on his hat and vest.briantrumpet said:
They're really not very bright... read down the thread... this chap brought his mum with him, then stuck it on Facebook.diamonddog said:
Arrested as per CNN, furniture maker from Florida and then he tried to sell it on flea bay.
Numpty
#patches.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. 😀1
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