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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    elbowloh said:

    Full blown authoritarian attempt to overthrow the election result going on by the Republican Party.

    They’re not backing down.

    TBF, it's only a (relatively) small number and not supported by the Senate Majority Leader. Hopefully Pence will see sense and not support it.
    FWIW I would suggest hoping people see the better side is not really an effective tactic in this scenario

    Sounds like you want boots on the streets.....


    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    MattFalle said:

    elbowloh said:

    Full blown authoritarian attempt to overthrow the election result going on by the Republican Party.

    They’re not backing down.

    TBF, it's only a (relatively) small number and not supported by the Senate Majority Leader. Hopefully Pence will see sense and not support it.
    FWIW I would suggest hoping people see the better side is not really an effective tactic in this scenario

    Sounds like you want boots on the streets.....


    No, you just lack imagination.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,915
    It would be good if a few expressions could enter the language such as "losing like Trump" to mean a very bad loser. Trump would hate that.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    edited January 2021

    It would be good if a few expressions could enter the language such as "losing like Trump" to mean a very bad loser. Trump would hate that.

    For a while loser.com redirected to Trump's Wiki page.

    Also https://djtrumplibrary.com/ is worth a visit.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,551
    Quite something this. Audio recording of Trump trying to pressure the Georgia governor into changing the election result.

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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    Snap. It's quite extraordinary, isn't it?
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Anyone think he's doing jail time if he stays in the US after his Presidency ends? It feels like he's upset too many people and agencies to avoid any comeback.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    Pross said:

    Anyone think he's doing jail time if he stays in the US after his Presidency ends? It feels like he's upset too many people and agencies to avoid any comeback.


    It's going to be an interesting one to watch. I'm sure there's several metric tonnes of stuff out there, including plenty of financial stuff from before he became president. The biggest question is the political one, and the willingness to charge him as an ex-President - my US history is so poor that I don't know if they've ever had a mobster so deranged as President. He makes Nixon look like Mother Teresa.

    My suspicion with this tape is that Raffensperger let this conversation to run on so that Trump could provide plenty of irrefutable evidence about his criminality.
  • MattFalle said:

    elbowloh said:

    Full blown authoritarian attempt to overthrow the election result going on by the Republican Party.

    They’re not backing down.

    TBF, it's only a (relatively) small number and not supported by the Senate Majority Leader. Hopefully Pence will see sense and not support it.
    FWIW I would suggest hoping people see the better side is not really an effective tactic in this scenario

    Sounds like you want boots on the streets.....


    No, you just lack imagination.
    Now We know you are trolling!
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited January 2021

    MattFalle said:

    elbowloh said:

    Full blown authoritarian attempt to overthrow the election result going on by the Republican Party.

    They’re not backing down.

    TBF, it's only a (relatively) small number and not supported by the Senate Majority Leader. Hopefully Pence will see sense and not support it.
    FWIW I would suggest hoping people see the better side is not really an effective tactic in this scenario

    Sounds like you want boots on the streets.....


    No, you just lack imagination.
    So you want a protest. Something nice and jumpers, few placards, back home on the train, dinner and pseudo discussion, back to the recruitment office to sell jobs to fascists the next day. Cool.

    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    MattFalle said:

    elbowloh said:

    Full blown authoritarian attempt to overthrow the election result going on by the Republican Party.

    They’re not backing down.

    TBF, it's only a (relatively) small number and not supported by the Senate Majority Leader. Hopefully Pence will see sense and not support it.
    FWIW I would suggest hoping people see the better side is not really an effective tactic in this scenario

    Sounds like you want boots on the streets.....


    No, you just lack imagination.
    Now We know you are trolling!
    😅

    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    elbowloh said:

    Full blown authoritarian attempt to overthrow the election result going on by the Republican Party.

    They’re not backing down.

    TBF, it's only a (relatively) small number and not supported by the Senate Majority Leader. Hopefully Pence will see sense and not support it.
    FWIW I would suggest hoping people see the better side is not really an effective tactic in this scenario

    Sounds like you want boots on the streets.....


    No, you just lack imagination.
    So you want a protest.

    Pross said:

    Anyone think he's doing jail time if he stays in the US after his Presidency ends? It feels like he's upset too many people and agencies to avoid any comeback.


    Not a chance. He has too much political payback owing, too many extraordinarily rich donors and his supporters are all mad. Far too risky for the judiciary.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    elbowloh said:

    Full blown authoritarian attempt to overthrow the election result going on by the Republican Party.

    They’re not backing down.

    TBF, it's only a (relatively) small number and not supported by the Senate Majority Leader. Hopefully Pence will see sense and not support it.
    FWIW I would suggest hoping people see the better side is not really an effective tactic in this scenario

    Sounds like you want boots on the streets.....


    No, you just lack imagination.
    So you want a protest.

    Pross said:

    Anyone think he's doing jail time if he stays in the US after his Presidency ends? It feels like he's upset too many people and agencies to avoid any comeback.


    Not a chance. He has too much political payback owing, too many extraordinarily rich donors and his supporters are all mad. Far too risky for the judiciary.
    He'll bang his head falling out of golf cart.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited January 2021
    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    elbowloh said:

    Full blown authoritarian attempt to overthrow the election result going on by the Republican Party.

    They’re not backing down.

    TBF, it's only a (relatively) small number and not supported by the Senate Majority Leader. Hopefully Pence will see sense and not support it.
    FWIW I would suggest hoping people see the better side is not really an effective tactic in this scenario

    Sounds like you want boots on the streets.....


    No, you just lack imagination.
    So you want a protest. Something nice and jumpers, few placards, back home on the train, dinner and pseudo discussion, back to the recruitment office to sell jobs to fascists the next day. Cool.

    No. That’s not what I want.

    You need serious people who people listen to continue to point and explain what the Reps are doing - particularly republicans who are pro-democracy.

    Your Mitt Romney’s of this world.

    They all need to get organised and mount their own material response to it.

    Sitting and hoping they fail is not a strategy.

    Less useful but Biden needs to spell it out.

    You need to get serious people who people listen to explaining how America is actually one of the world’s leaders when it comes to vote counting.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    So more coordinated (and well financed) iterations of this

  • rjsterry said:

    Quite something this. Audio recording of Trump trying to pressure the Georgia governor into changing the election result.

    Read an interesting view on this, that Trump kept saying crazy things, and waiting for the SoS to agree. If he had, Trump would then have released the tape. But he didn't.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    edited January 2021

    Read an interesting view on this, that Trump kept saying crazy things, and waiting for the SoS to agree. If he had, Trump would then have released the tape. But he didn't.


    I would assume that Raffensperger would have been expecting some sort of 'perfect call' like this, and would be reasonably clear in his mind what sort of things to say (or not to say). I think he was ready, given Trump's record, to push back on any misrepresentation of the call.

  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190

    Read an interesting view on this, that Trump kept saying crazy things, and waiting for the SoS to agree. If he had, Trump would then have released the tape. But he didn't.


    I would assume that Raffensperger would have been expecting some sort of 'perfect call' like this, and would be reasonably clear in his mind what sort of things to say (or not to say). I think he was ready, given Trump's record, to push back on any misrepresentation of the call.

    Whilst good to see his own side disputing his nonsense, it’s all a bit too late.
    The moron will soon be gone but as said many times on here and now acknowledged by this Ryan fella. A lot of damage has already been done.

    In his own businesses, he just fires dissenters, here he is trying to out manoeuvre superior intellects.

    Too little, too late though.
  • Paul Ryan could have done with finding a sense of duty while he still had some actual power.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    Here's some trolling I do approve of:


  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463

    Here's some trolling I do approve of:


    Presumably he'd have diplomatic immunity but if they are patient would that end after Biden's inauguration? ;)
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    D/I or not, you always reserve the right to refuse entry or ask to leave anyone you want for a valid reaso and this would most deffo be one of them....

    #getorfmaland
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Also, would he be entitled to use the jet after the inauguration or will he have to catch a commercial flight back home? Maybe he'll move to Scotland to avoid the Feds.
  • He could probably say he was working there, head of his "organisation". To be fair, as it's a golf course, he'd be doing as much work as he has been most of the last four years.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    edited January 2021

    He could probably say he was working there, head of his "organisation". To be fair, as it's a golf course, he'd be doing as much work as he has been most of the last four years.

    This. And diplomatic immunity. So other than the two good reasons that a group of random blokes on an internet forum can immediately spot, she has a point.

    But for the cost of a dimplomatic incident with the current head of the world's largest economy, who will remain highly influential for the forseeable future, a smart ass comment like that is well worth it.
  • He could probably say he was working there, head of his "organisation". To be fair, as it's a golf course, he'd be doing as much work as he has been most of the last four years.

    This. And diplomatic immunity. So other than the two good reasons that a group of random blokes on an internet forum can immediately spot, she has a point.

    But for the cost of a dimplomatic incident with the current head of the world's largest economy, who will remain highly influential for the forseeable future, a smart censored comment like that is well worth it.
    You think?
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167

    He could probably say he was working there, head of his "organisation". To be fair, as it's a golf course, he'd be doing as much work as he has been most of the last four years.

    This. And diplomatic immunity. So other than the two good reasons that a group of random blokes on an internet forum can immediately spot, she has a point.

    But for the cost of a dimplomatic incident with the current head of the world's largest economy, who will remain highly influential for the forseeable future, a smart censored comment like that is well worth it.
    You think?
    Yes, even from the grave. The GOP will be infused with Trumpist lunatics like Ted Cruz, for a very long time. If you look back Sarah Palin and the Tea Party were earlier examples of how moderate Republicans were forced to pander to extremists, and now there are over 100 in office willing to bet that conspiracy theorism and populism is a way to stay there.
  • He could probably say he was working there, head of his "organisation". To be fair, as it's a golf course, he'd be doing as much work as he has been most of the last four years.

    This. And diplomatic immunity. So other than the two good reasons that a group of random blokes on an internet forum can immediately spot, she has a point.

    But for the cost of a dimplomatic incident with the current head of the world's largest economy, who will remain highly influential for the forseeable future, a smart censored comment like that is well worth it.
    You think?
    Yes, even from the grave. The GOP will be infused with Trumpist lunatics like Ted Cruz, for a very long time. If you look back Sarah Palin and the Tea Party were earlier examples of how moderate Republicans were forced to pander to extremists, and now there are over 100 in office willing to bet that conspiracy theorism and populism is a way to stay there.
    Hmmm. I've a feeling that after today, he might not be very important at all for the next few years.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,327

    Here's some trolling I do approve of:


    Is it this coming to pass?


    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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