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  • I'm sure you aren't really that hard of understanding, so I don't know why you would pretend to be so.

    I agree this could have been in the Labour thread but the point still stands of the hypocrisy of the Labour party but they then endorse the Trump approach to C19.
    Hey, maybe you are. Why you would want to hide behind the persona of someone who doesn't understand basic words?
  • Jezyboy said:

    Given there's no world without covid and therefore its impossible to know its effect on GDP my sincerely held belief is that you can't simply put any loss in GDP down to covid and therefore its all censored.

    Or something like that.

    :)
  • elbowloh said:

    elbowloh said:

    Labour are promoting that Donald Trump handled C19 the best out of the major nations

    Because GDP is the one true measure of how you handle a pandemic.

    Number of cases and deaths is unimportant...
    I'm quoting the Labour Party endorsing the Trump approach. (I've endorse the Sweden approach which is left graph at -3.4%)

    It is a strange irony that it has been Labour that have always called for more and harder restrictions thus causing more damage to the economy.
    That's your interpretation. Just because they are saying the Tories have let us down doesn't mean that they endorse Trump. They're just saying compared to everyone else in the developed nations, we're done particularly badly.

    Why haven't you said they endorse the Japanese, Germans or Canadians.
    am I the only one to ponder why the USA bucks the strong correlation between deaths and economic woes or are those countries carefully chosen?
  • elbowloh said:

    elbowloh said:

    Labour are promoting that Donald Trump handled C19 the best out of the major nations

    Because GDP is the one true measure of how you handle a pandemic.

    Number of cases and deaths is unimportant...
    I'm quoting the Labour Party endorsing the Trump approach. (I've endorse the Sweden approach which is left graph at -3.4%)

    It is a strange irony that it has been Labour that have always called for more and harder restrictions thus causing more damage to the economy.
    That's your interpretation. Just because they are saying the Tories have let us down doesn't mean that they endorse Trump. They're just saying compared to everyone else in the developed nations, we're done particularly badly.

    Why haven't you said they endorse the Japanese, Germans or Canadians.
    am I the only one to ponder why the USA bucks the strong correlation between deaths and economic woes or are those countries carefully chosen?
    That's the G7 isn't it?

    It is interesting. The USA did have an almighty stimulus package early on, and got hit across the country at different times, without the countrywide restrictions the other countries had. Also some pretty big companies that have done well out of the pandemic.
  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,605

    elbowloh said:

    elbowloh said:

    Labour are promoting that Donald Trump handled C19 the best out of the major nations

    Because GDP is the one true measure of how you handle a pandemic.

    Number of cases and deaths is unimportant...
    I'm quoting the Labour Party endorsing the Trump approach. (I've endorse the Sweden approach which is left graph at -3.4%)

    It is a strange irony that it has been Labour that have always called for more and harder restrictions thus causing more damage to the economy.
    That's your interpretation. Just because they are saying the Tories have let us down doesn't mean that they endorse Trump. They're just saying compared to everyone else in the developed nations, we're done particularly badly.

    Why haven't you said they endorse the Japanese, Germans or Canadians.
    am I the only one to ponder why the USA bucks the strong correlation between deaths and economic woes or are those countries carefully chosen?
    It's been very inward looking over the past 4 years, which possibly sets it up well for a crisis which puts lots of strain on cross border travel?

    They also look to have completely prioritised the economy, rather than poorly play a balence.
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078

    elbowloh said:

    elbowloh said:

    Labour are promoting that Donald Trump handled C19 the best out of the major nations

    Because GDP is the one true measure of how you handle a pandemic.

    Number of cases and deaths is unimportant...
    I'm quoting the Labour Party endorsing the Trump approach. (I've endorse the Sweden approach which is left graph at -3.4%)

    It is a strange irony that it has been Labour that have always called for more and harder restrictions thus causing more damage to the economy.
    That's your interpretation. Just because they are saying the Tories have let us down doesn't mean that they endorse Trump. They're just saying compared to everyone else in the developed nations, we're done particularly badly.

    Why haven't you said they endorse the Japanese, Germans or Canadians.
    am I the only one to ponder why the USA bucks the strong correlation between deaths and economic woes or are those countries carefully chosen?
    Maybe the cost of funerals is so high that it's propping up the economy...
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  • rick_chasey
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    elbowloh said:

    elbowloh said:

    Labour are promoting that Donald Trump handled C19 the best out of the major nations

    Because GDP is the one true measure of how you handle a pandemic.

    Number of cases and deaths is unimportant...
    I'm quoting the Labour Party endorsing the Trump approach. (I've endorse the Sweden approach which is left graph at -3.4%)

    It is a strange irony that it has been Labour that have always called for more and harder restrictions thus causing more damage to the economy.
    That's your interpretation. Just because they are saying the Tories have let us down doesn't mean that they endorse Trump. They're just saying compared to everyone else in the developed nations, we're done particularly badly.

    Why haven't you said they endorse the Japanese, Germans or Canadians.
    am I the only one to ponder why the USA bucks the strong correlation between deaths and economic woes or are those countries carefully chosen?
    That's the G7 isn't it?

    It is interesting. The USA did have an almighty stimulus package early on, and got hit across the country at different times, without the countrywide restrictions the other countries had. Also some pretty big companies that have done well out of the pandemic.
    I've read some things suggesting that the type of stimulus the US did was more effective than the European social security model.
  • Interestingly the ultimate end point of the USA policy seems about the same as everyone else's? Or do I need to zoom in further...
  • Interestingly the ultimate end point of the USA policy seems about the same as everyone else's? Or do I need to zoom in further...

    Pretty close to the rest of the G7 basket cases. It's how they had the persistence to fall behind, but keep at it until they got there that is impressive.
  • Interestingly the ultimate end point of the USA policy seems about the same as everyone else's? Or do I need to zoom in further...

    They've largely ignored coronavirus and stuck with the economy as the priority. This has worked to a degree (no worse on death than UK, France, Spain, Italy) thanks to the lower population density. But with so much in its favour they could, and should, have done much better.
  • elbowloh said:

    elbowloh said:

    elbowloh said:

    Labour are promoting that Donald Trump handled C19 the best out of the major nations

    Because GDP is the one true measure of how you handle a pandemic.

    Number of cases and deaths is unimportant...
    I'm quoting the Labour Party endorsing the Trump approach. (I've endorse the Sweden approach which is left graph at -3.4%)

    It is a strange irony that it has been Labour that have always called for more and harder restrictions thus causing more damage to the economy.
    That's your interpretation. Just because they are saying the Tories have let us down doesn't mean that they endorse Trump. They're just saying compared to everyone else in the developed nations, we're done particularly badly.

    Why haven't you said they endorse the Japanese, Germans or Canadians.
    am I the only one to ponder why the USA bucks the strong correlation between deaths and economic woes or are those countries carefully chosen?
    Maybe the cost of funerals is so high that it's propping up the economy...
    Or he cost of going to hospital?
    Profit from misery!
  • Interestingly the ultimate end point of the USA policy seems about the same as everyone else's? Or do I need to zoom in further...

    They aren't done yet.

  • Interestingly the ultimate end point of the USA policy seems about the same as everyone else's? Or do I need to zoom in further...

    especially when the general consensus is that Trump is an uncaring mad man yet he his record on deaths is no worse and his economic performance is top of class.

    It does baffle me how the general British perception is that Boris has done well in impossible circumstances yet Trump is a maniac with an out of control death count.
  • Interestingly the ultimate end point of the USA policy seems about the same as everyone else's? Or do I need to zoom in further...

    especially when the general consensus is that Trump is an uncaring mad man yet he his record on deaths is no worse and his economic performance is top of class.

    It does baffle me how the general British perception is that Boris has done well in impossible circumstances yet Trump is a maniac with an out of control death count.
    This is what it seems to be showing to me as well. I am almost certainly missing something.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    So,

    Will he run again in ‘24 or is he just milking the cow then skidaddle with the spondoolies?
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Interestingly the ultimate end point of the USA policy seems about the same as everyone else's? Or do I need to zoom in further...

    especially when the general consensus is that Trump is an uncaring mad man yet he his record on deaths is no worse and his economic performance is top of class.

    It does baffle me how the general British perception is that Boris has done well in impossible circumstances yet Trump is a maniac with an out of control death count.
    This is what it seems to be showing to me as well. I am almost certainly missing something.
    population density.
    Little or no commuting between major population centres.
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    edited December 2020

    Interestingly the ultimate end point of the USA policy seems about the same as everyone else's? Or do I need to zoom in further...

    especially when the general consensus is that Trump is an uncaring mad man yet he his record on deaths is no worse and his economic performance is top of class.

    It does baffle me how the general British perception is that Boris has done well in impossible circumstances yet Trump is a maniac with an out of control death count.
    I don't think anyone has said Boris has done well?

    As for Trump, it seems to be more of a case that it's remarkable that the US has done well in spite of Trump's actions. don't forget, its the individual states that are responsible for the lockdowns, not Trump.
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  • Trump's mate Giuliani has coped a dose of the phantom virus.
    If somebody has to get it, I can think of nobody more deserving.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Giuliani has finally tested positive for covid. Of all the people who it seemed unbelievable it hadn't happened yet, only pence left.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    So hair dye doesn't protect you then.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    orraloon said:

    So hair dye doesn't protect you then.

    Nor does wiping snot all over your mouth and eyes, apparently...

    https://mobile.twitter.com/timjhogan/status/1329562651287023624
  • What about injecting bleach? Can they now test it on the ex mayor?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    What about injecting bleach? Can they now test it on the ex mayor?

    Be careful about suggesting that. People got very upset when I suggested Coopster do that.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227

    What about injecting bleach? Can they now test it on the ex mayor?

    Be careful about suggesting that. People got very upset when I suggested Coopster do that.
    If he did it certainly didn't clean up his language.
  • Coops is a character name only, I doubt he has feelings only a computer to type his pile of disinformation until his shift ends. Or am I wrong in my suspicions?
  • You can say what you like about Giuliani. People like trump and will stick up for him. Does anyone really like Giuliani enough to do that?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    Coops is a character name only, I doubt he has feelings only a computer to type his pile of disinformation until his shift ends. Or am I wrong in my suspicions?

    Who knows but a lot of people got very upset by it.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,814

    Coops is a character name only, I doubt he has feelings only a computer to type his pile of disinformation until his shift ends. Or am I wrong in my suspicions?

    Who knows but a lot of people got very upset by it.
    Snowflakes?
  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965

    Coops is a character name only, I doubt he has feelings only a computer to type his pile of disinformation until his shift ends. Or am I wrong in my suspicions?

    Who knows but a lot of people got very upset by it.
    People don't like a hypocrite and this was the real reason for the outrage. Nobody was really that upset for Coopster.
  • john80 said:

    Coops is a character name only, I doubt he has feelings only a computer to type his pile of disinformation until his shift ends. Or am I wrong in my suspicions?

    Who knows but a lot of people got very upset by it.
    People don't like a hypocrite and this was the real reason for the outrage. Nobody was really that upset for Coopster.
    Nah, people like to pretend they can't recognise a joke.