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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    pblakeney said:

    This has aged well. Where should he go?

    "“Running against the worst candidate in the history of presidential politics puts pressure on me,” Trump told supporters at an airport campaign rally in Macon, Georgia. “Could you imagine if I lose? My whole life – what am I going to do? I’m going to say I lost to the worst candidate in the history of politics.”

    Trump said he might not feel so good after an election loss to Biden. “Maybe I have to leave the country, I don’t know,” he joked."

    Yeah but none of that applies now as he says he hasn't lost. None of it covers the election being stolen from him.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328
    Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    This has aged well. Where should he go?

    "“Running against the worst candidate in the history of presidential politics puts pressure on me,” Trump told supporters at an airport campaign rally in Macon, Georgia. “Could you imagine if I lose? My whole life – what am I going to do? I’m going to say I lost to the worst candidate in the history of politics.”

    Trump said he might not feel so good after an election loss to Biden. “Maybe I have to leave the country, I don’t know,” he joked."

    Yeah but none of that applies now as he says he hasn't lost. None of it covers the election being stolen from him.
    He has admitted that Biden won, but won't concede.
    Classic Trump logic.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    The fraud claims are obviously horrendous but clearly some of the psychology of what’s playing out is Republicans genuinely shocked that Trump lost.

    They should do some soul searching about how they got so out of touch and stuck in their bubble.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349

    The fraud claims are obviously horrendous but clearly some of the psychology of what’s playing out is Republicans genuinely shocked that Trump lost.

    They should do some soul searching about how they got so out of touch and stuck in their bubble.


    They probably thought that by slowing up the mail they'd done enough.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,559
    edited November 2020

    The fraud claims are obviously horrendous but clearly some of the psychology of what’s playing out is Republicans genuinely shocked that Trump lost.

    They should do some soul searching about how they got so out of touch and stuck in their bubble.

    You last sentence: an interesting parallel there with two of the mainstream parties in the UK, one of which you support.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328

    The fraud claims are obviously horrendous but clearly some of the psychology of what’s playing out is Republicans genuinely shocked that Trump lost.

    They should do some soul searching about how they got so out of touch and stuck in their bubble.

    You last sentence: an interesting parallel there with three of the mainstream parties in the UK, one of which you support.
    FTFY. You'd be corrected otherwise.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,317

    Dragonfly in the 3:20 at Haydock?

    With all that rain?! He doesn't like heavy going.

    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • You won, get over it.

    Who knew Remoaners and Trump voters were so alike?

    The UK should never forget the risk and damage to democracy that remoaners have caused in the last 4.5 years. If you went on or supported one of those remoaner marches you are no better than the Trump supporters in the attached picture.

    I will continue to hold the feet to the fire of those who refused to accept the democratic result. That I have Trump to bash them over the head with is a glorious bonus :smiley:
    your not holdin gany ones feet to the fire. Its a bicycle forum. Get a grip!
  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965

    Democracy doesn't stop fixed for ever more after one vote at one moment in time.

    Trump supporters are every bit as entitled to protest as Remainers were.

    They're every bit as entitled to oppose the new President's agenda as parliament was to oppose the May's Brexit deal.




    I'm not sure what's complicated.


    100%
    But it seems some posters on here don't like the idea that they are like Trump supporters.
    I don't think many disputed the result, maybe I'm mistaken.
    More denial...

    If you can find any evidence on here of Remainers making allegations of ballot stuffing and fraud, well, go ahead. I thought Brexit was a stupid idea in 2016, I still think so now, but I've never tried to suggest there was widespread election fraud... I don't remember that coming up on here but then again I haven't been in the Brexit thread for some time.

    There's a difference between thinking we voted for something completely stupid and questioning the integrity of the vote itself. But you know that.
    Whilst there are little to no remainers claiming the referendum was rigged. How many remainers have claimed that people who voted to leave were lied to, could not understand what they were voting for or were just too dumb to understand the arguments etc etc.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    john80 said:

    Democracy doesn't stop fixed for ever more after one vote at one moment in time.

    Trump supporters are every bit as entitled to protest as Remainers were.

    They're every bit as entitled to oppose the new President's agenda as parliament was to oppose the May's Brexit deal.




    I'm not sure what's complicated.


    100%
    But it seems some posters on here don't like the idea that they are like Trump supporters.
    I don't think many disputed the result, maybe I'm mistaken.
    More denial...

    If you can find any evidence on here of Remainers making allegations of ballot stuffing and fraud, well, go ahead. I thought Brexit was a stupid idea in 2016, I still think so now, but I've never tried to suggest there was widespread election fraud... I don't remember that coming up on here but then again I haven't been in the Brexit thread for some time.

    There's a difference between thinking we voted for something completely stupid and questioning the integrity of the vote itself. But you know that.
    Whilst there are little to no remainers claiming the referendum was rigged. How many remainers have claimed that people who voted to leave were lied to, could not understand what they were voting for or were just too dumb to understand the arguments etc etc.
    All that's true isn't it?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    The fraud claims are obviously horrendous but clearly some of the psychology of what’s playing out is Republicans genuinely shocked that Trump lost.

    They should do some soul searching about how they got so out of touch and stuck in their bubble.

    You last sentence: an interesting parallel there with two of the mainstream parties in the UK, one of which you support.

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    john80 said:

    Democracy doesn't stop fixed for ever more after one vote at one moment in time.

    Trump supporters are every bit as entitled to protest as Remainers were.

    They're every bit as entitled to oppose the new President's agenda as parliament was to oppose the May's Brexit deal.




    I'm not sure what's complicated.


    100%
    But it seems some posters on here don't like the idea that they are like Trump supporters.
    I don't think many disputed the result, maybe I'm mistaken.
    More denial...

    If you can find any evidence on here of Remainers making allegations of ballot stuffing and fraud, well, go ahead. I thought Brexit was a stupid idea in 2016, I still think so now, but I've never tried to suggest there was widespread election fraud... I don't remember that coming up on here but then again I haven't been in the Brexit thread for some time.

    There's a difference between thinking we voted for something completely stupid and questioning the integrity of the vote itself. But you know that.
    Whilst there are little to no remainers claiming the referendum was rigged. How many remainers have claimed that people who voted to leave were lied to, could not understand what they were voting for or were just too dumb to understand the arguments etc etc.
    Looool
  • john80 said:

    Democracy doesn't stop fixed for ever more after one vote at one moment in time.

    Trump supporters are every bit as entitled to protest as Remainers were.

    They're every bit as entitled to oppose the new President's agenda as parliament was to oppose the May's Brexit deal.




    I'm not sure what's complicated.


    100%
    But it seems some posters on here don't like the idea that they are like Trump supporters.
    I don't think many disputed the result, maybe I'm mistaken.
    More denial...

    If you can find any evidence on here of Remainers making allegations of ballot stuffing and fraud, well, go ahead. I thought Brexit was a stupid idea in 2016, I still think so now, but I've never tried to suggest there was widespread election fraud... I don't remember that coming up on here but then again I haven't been in the Brexit thread for some time.

    There's a difference between thinking we voted for something completely stupid and questioning the integrity of the vote itself. But you know that.
    Whilst there are little to no remainers claiming the referendum was rigged. How many remainers have claimed that people who voted to leave were lied to, could not understand what they were voting for or were just too dumb to understand the arguments etc etc.
    Me
  • pblakeney said:

    The fraud claims are obviously horrendous but clearly some of the psychology of what’s playing out is Republicans genuinely shocked that Trump lost.

    They should do some soul searching about how they got so out of touch and stuck in their bubble.

    You last sentence: an interesting parallel there with three of the mainstream parties in the UK, one of which you support.
    FTFY. You'd be corrected otherwise.
    Labour, Tory and SNP right? Aren't they the three main parties in Westminster by number of MPs? I think to include the lib dems you need to go to a higher number of parties than three these days right? I might be out of date here so will stand to be corrected.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328

    pblakeney said:

    The fraud claims are obviously horrendous but clearly some of the psychology of what’s playing out is Republicans genuinely shocked that Trump lost.

    They should do some soul searching about how they got so out of touch and stuck in their bubble.

    You last sentence: an interesting parallel there with three of the mainstream parties in the UK, one of which you support.
    FTFY. You'd be corrected otherwise.
    Labour, Tory and SNP right? Aren't they the three main parties in Westminster by number of MPs? I think to include the lib dems you need to go to a higher number of parties than three these days right? I might be out of date here so will stand to be corrected.
    Pedant correction as usual.
    He certainly does not support one of the main two parties.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • Did really nobody get the joke?
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328
    edited November 2020

    Did really nobody get the joke?

    Out of touch and stuck in their bubble? Yes. I'd extend that to the Liberals too.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • pblakeney said:

    Did really nobody get the joke?

    Out of touch and stuck in their bubble? Yes. I'd extend that to the Liberals too.
    Please tell me you're all being obtuse on purpose, otherwise I worry.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328

    pblakeney said:

    Did really nobody get the joke?

    Out of touch and stuck in their bubble? Yes. I'd extend that to the Liberals too.
    Please tell me you're all being obtuse on purpose, otherwise I worry.
    You think the politicians are in touch with the electorate and not in a bubble?
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • pblakeney said:

    pblakeney said:

    Did really nobody get the joke?

    Out of touch and stuck in their bubble? Yes. I'd extend that to the Liberals too.
    Please tell me you're all being obtuse on purpose, otherwise I worry.
    You think the politicians are in touch with the electorate and not in a bubble?
    https://youtu.be/vKOb-kmOgpI
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435

    john80 said:

    Democracy doesn't stop fixed for ever more after one vote at one moment in time.

    Trump supporters are every bit as entitled to protest as Remainers were.

    They're every bit as entitled to oppose the new President's agenda as parliament was to oppose the May's Brexit deal.




    I'm not sure what's complicated.


    100%
    But it seems some posters on here don't like the idea that they are like Trump supporters.
    I don't think many disputed the result, maybe I'm mistaken.
    More denial...

    If you can find any evidence on here of Remainers making allegations of ballot stuffing and fraud, well, go ahead. I thought Brexit was a stupid idea in 2016, I still think so now, but I've never tried to suggest there was widespread election fraud... I don't remember that coming up on here but then again I haven't been in the Brexit thread for some time.

    There's a difference between thinking we voted for something completely stupid and questioning the integrity of the vote itself. But you know that.
    Whilst there are little to no remainers claiming the referendum was rigged. How many remainers have claimed that people who voted to leave were lied to, could not understand what they were voting for or were just too dumb to understand the arguments etc etc.
    Me
    They were lied to. Brexit was, is and will be a stupid idea.

    I don't think anybody stuffed ballot boxes with leave votes though.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    Anyway, Georgia recount ongoing: No differences so far. 48 of 149 counties reporting, 4 of which no difference at all, and the rest fairly insignificant.

    Trump's obviously said the recount is a scam too.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328
    edited November 2020
    Yeah, all bubbles are bad. I think this forum is good for seeing all views, even the ones I disagree with. Believe it or not.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited November 2020
    pblakeney said:

    Yeah, all bubbles are bad. I think this forum is good for seeing all views, even the ones I disagree with. Believe it or not.

    Honestly, you don't get many proper left wing takes on here, if at all.

    If your free-market City of London recruiter is as left wing as you get, you're not really very left wing.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,328

    pblakeney said:

    Yeah, all bubbles are bad. I think this forum is good for seeing all views, even the ones I disagree with. Believe it or not.

    Honestly, you don't get many proper left wing takes on here, if at all.

    If your free-market City of London recruiter is as left wing as you get, you're not really very left wing.
    I'm not, you're not, but there are others. I do also have other sites for those opinions.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,915

    pblakeney said:

    Yeah, all bubbles are bad. I think this forum is good for seeing all views, even the ones I disagree with. Believe it or not.

    Honestly, you don't get many proper left wing takes on here, if at all.

    If your free-market City of London recruiter is as left wing as you get, you're not really very left wing.

    pblakeney said:

    Yeah, all bubbles are bad. I think this forum is good for seeing all views, even the ones I disagree with. Believe it or not.

    Honestly, you don't get many proper left wing takes on here, if at all.

    If your free-market City of London recruiter is as left wing as you get, you're not really very left wing.
    If this your new definition of left-wing or the more traditional one that worries about workers' rights and wants more state spending?
  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965

    john80 said:

    Democracy doesn't stop fixed for ever more after one vote at one moment in time.

    Trump supporters are every bit as entitled to protest as Remainers were.

    They're every bit as entitled to oppose the new President's agenda as parliament was to oppose the May's Brexit deal.




    I'm not sure what's complicated.


    100%
    But it seems some posters on here don't like the idea that they are like Trump supporters.
    I don't think many disputed the result, maybe I'm mistaken.
    More denial...

    If you can find any evidence on here of Remainers making allegations of ballot stuffing and fraud, well, go ahead. I thought Brexit was a stupid idea in 2016, I still think so now, but I've never tried to suggest there was widespread election fraud... I don't remember that coming up on here but then again I haven't been in the Brexit thread for some time.

    There's a difference between thinking we voted for something completely stupid and questioning the integrity of the vote itself. But you know that.
    Whilst there are little to no remainers claiming the referendum was rigged. How many remainers have claimed that people who voted to leave were lied to, could not understand what they were voting for or were just too dumb to understand the arguments etc etc.
    All that's true isn't it?
    In your head yes.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    pblakeney said:

    Yeah, all bubbles are bad. I think this forum is good for seeing all views, even the ones I disagree with. Believe it or not.

    Honestly, you don't get many proper left wing takes on here, if at all.

    If your free-market City of London recruiter is as left wing as you get, you're not really very left wing.

    pblakeney said:

    Yeah, all bubbles are bad. I think this forum is good for seeing all views, even the ones I disagree with. Believe it or not.

    Honestly, you don't get many proper left wing takes on here, if at all.

    If your free-market City of London recruiter is as left wing as you get, you're not really very left wing.
    If this your new definition of left-wing or the more traditional one that worries about workers' rights and wants more state spending?
    There's a whole swathe of proper Corbynite types who are the left-wing equivalent of say a Coopster, who we never hear from.

  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,348
    john80 said:

    john80 said:

    Democracy doesn't stop fixed for ever more after one vote at one moment in time.

    Trump supporters are every bit as entitled to protest as Remainers were.

    They're every bit as entitled to oppose the new President's agenda as parliament was to oppose the May's Brexit deal.




    I'm not sure what's complicated.


    100%
    But it seems some posters on here don't like the idea that they are like Trump supporters.
    I don't think many disputed the result, maybe I'm mistaken.
    More denial...

    If you can find any evidence on here of Remainers making allegations of ballot stuffing and fraud, well, go ahead. I thought Brexit was a stupid idea in 2016, I still think so now, but I've never tried to suggest there was widespread election fraud... I don't remember that coming up on here but then again I haven't been in the Brexit thread for some time.

    There's a difference between thinking we voted for something completely stupid and questioning the integrity of the vote itself. But you know that.
    Whilst there are little to no remainers claiming the referendum was rigged. How many remainers have claimed that people who voted to leave were lied to, could not understand what they were voting for or were just too dumb to understand the arguments etc etc.
    All that's true isn't it?
    In your head yes.
    nonsense

    it's a fact leavers were lied to
    it's a fact leavers didn't know what they were voting for beyond 'leave the eu'
    after years i've yet to hear any leaver explain why it's factually (rather than jingoistically) a good idea

    the uk's problems are the creation of the uk's political system, leaving the eu will not solve them, it merely strips citizens of their rights and drives the uk further towards plutocracy
    my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny
  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    edited November 2020
    Remoaners are still in denial that their side lied as well. If Trump supporters did this they would be rightly lambasted, but remoaners give out a free pass to lies their side told.

    Remoaners are getting more like Trump supporters every day...