Donald Trump
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This kind of ignorance and complete sense of humour failure is, ironically, the best evidence that he's for real...darkhairedlord said:
Whoosh.swjohnsey said:
No they don't. I took the oath several times over my twenty years and it was to protect and defend the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. From personal experience most folks in the military are Republican, most, not all.darkhairedlord said:bompington said:
Yes, now you're getting it!First.Aspect said:
So what's the issue exactly? That people voted illegally because they voted democrat?kingstongraham said:
Exactly. They are military and he is their commander in chief. It is disloyalty to not vote trump, treason even. They swear an oath to trump.bompington said:
Yes, now you're getting it!First.Aspect said:
So what's the issue exactly? That people voted illegally because they voted democrat?kingstongraham said:0 -
You can still get an 8% return on Biden winning.0
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Who with?TheBigBean said:You can still get an 8% return on Biden winning.
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I thought the state called the recount due to it being within X percent? I may well be wrong.bobmcstuff said:
A full hand recount of all the votes isn't mandated by Georgia election law.swjohnsey said:
Because it is Georgia election law?First.Aspect said:
If there won't be much of a change, why is it interesting to watch and why is it happening at all?swjohnsey said:I'm not expecting much of a change. Whether I accept the result or not is immaterial, I don't live in Georgia or have any standing.
They have to do an audit of one race. This is usually hand spot checks, apparently. They have gone for the nuclear option, presumably because the Republican secretary of state - who's been defending the process - has been under a lot of pressure from the party.
Trump can still request a recount after this - but it would be done by machine.
The cases being thrown at the various states are a two fold attack, firstly to sow distrust in the voting systems. An secondly if they can drag out the process so state legislatures have the authority to appoint a slate of electors in the manner they see fit. As in, disregard the will of voters.
Now while I cannot see that happening I guess it would be possible though I would assume there would be some public outcry and legal issues if so as its never happened from what I can tell in US history.
If my understanding is correct it would go to Congress and if they cannot decide there then come January 20th Pelosi as leader of the house end up as interim president. Which would really irritate Trump.
Mean time his going to keep churning from his two new favourite rightwing media sources who going from various fact checking sources appear to be a bit rubbish.0 -
If one candidate does not get at least 270 votes when the electoral college meets the election goes to the House of Representatives. Each state delegation gets one vote. In that scenario the election probably goes to Trump. The senate will select a vice president.0
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This is entirely wrong.swjohnsey said:If one candidate does not get at least 270 votes when the electoral college meets the election goes to the House of Representatives. Each state delegation gets one vote. In that scenario the election probably goes to Trump. The senate will select a vice president.
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You should stick to something you know.First.Aspect said:
This is entirely wrong.swjohnsey said:If one candidate does not get at least 270 votes when the electoral college meets the election goes to the House of Representatives. Each state delegation gets one vote. In that scenario the election probably goes to Trump. The senate will select a vice president.
"12th Amendment
The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate; -- The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted; -- The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.-- The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.0 -
I stand corrected.swjohnsey said:
You should stick to something you know.First.Aspect said:
This is entirely wrong.swjohnsey said:If one candidate does not get at least 270 votes when the electoral college meets the election goes to the House of Representatives. Each state delegation gets one vote. In that scenario the election probably goes to Trump. The senate will select a vice president.
"12th Amendment
The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate; -- The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted; -- The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.-- The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
What an awesome democratic system. Was it designed by a Republican by any chance? I am just wondering if there is any was a Democrat who has lost could possibly stay in power.
Clue is in the name I guess.0 -
Republican party didn't come into existance until around 1860. They were the ones who freed the slaves.First.Aspect said:
I stand corrected.swjohnsey said:
You should stick to something you know.First.Aspect said:
This is entirely wrong.swjohnsey said:If one candidate does not get at least 270 votes when the electoral college meets the election goes to the House of Representatives. Each state delegation gets one vote. In that scenario the election probably goes to Trump. The senate will select a vice president.
"12th Amendment
The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate; -- The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted; -- The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.-- The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
What an awesome democratic system. Was it designed by a Republican by any chance? I am just wondering if there is any was a Democrat who has lost could possibly stay in power.
Clue is in the name I guess.0 -
BetfairFirst.Aspect said:
Who with?TheBigBean said:You can still get an 8% return on Biden winning.
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And yet you still voted for them.swjohnsey said:
Republican party didn't come into existance until around 1860. They were the ones who freed the slaves.First.Aspect said:
I stand corrected.swjohnsey said:
You should stick to something you know.First.Aspect said:
This is entirely wrong.swjohnsey said:If one candidate does not get at least 270 votes when the electoral college meets the election goes to the House of Representatives. Each state delegation gets one vote. In that scenario the election probably goes to Trump. The senate will select a vice president.
"12th Amendment
The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate; -- The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted; -- The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.-- The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
What an awesome democratic system. Was it designed by a Republican by any chance? I am just wondering if there is any was a Democrat who has lost could possibly stay in power.
Clue is in the name I guess.0 -
Are they still in business?TheBigBean said:
BetfairFirst.Aspect said:
Who with?TheBigBean said:You can still get an 8% return on Biden winning.
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Couldn't figure out where to post this. Thought you guys would get a kick out of it. When I was very young this was a weekly newspaper for kids. I'm 72 years old and this hit schools in May 1953. I don't recall it but I would have only been 5 or 6.
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What odds are they offering on Liverpool having won the title last year?First.Aspect said:
Are they still in business?TheBigBean said:
BetfairFirst.Aspect said:
Who with?TheBigBean said:You can still get an 8% return on Biden winning.
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I got the weekly reader when I was a kid. I'm 73.0
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It's an exchange, so yes. If you think it is an easy return then take it. It was shorter at one point.First.Aspect said:
Are they still in business?TheBigBean said:
BetfairFirst.Aspect said:
Who with?TheBigBean said:You can still get an 8% return on Biden winning.
Just bear in mind the old adage - no one knows more than the market.0 -
That's not true for niche sports.TheBigBean said:
It's an exchange, so yes. If you think it is an easy return then take it. It was shorter at one point.First.Aspect said:
Are they still in business?TheBigBean said:
BetfairFirst.Aspect said:
Who with?TheBigBean said:You can still get an 8% return on Biden winning.
Just bear in mind the old adage - no one knows more than the market.0 -
You are - but it doesn't really matter. They chose to do a full hand recount of this race.step83 said:
I thought the state called the recount due to it being within X percent? I may well be wrong.bobmcstuff said:
A full hand recount of all the votes isn't mandated by Georgia election law.swjohnsey said:
Because it is Georgia election law?First.Aspect said:
If there won't be much of a change, why is it interesting to watch and why is it happening at all?swjohnsey said:I'm not expecting much of a change. Whether I accept the result or not is immaterial, I don't live in Georgia or have any standing.
They have to do an audit of one race. This is usually hand spot checks, apparently. They have gone for the nuclear option, presumably because the Republican secretary of state - who's been defending the process - has been under a lot of pressure from the party.
Trump can still request a recount after this - but it would be done by machine.
https://georgia.gov/election-recount-rules-georgia
"State law does not require an automatic recount of votes. However, a candidate can request a recount if the difference between the number of votes is not more than 1%. That request has to be made within two business days of the results being certified."
This recount was initiated by the secretary of state, Trump will still be able to request a recount afterwards.0 -
It's still not going to happen.First.Aspect said:
I stand corrected.swjohnsey said:
You should stick to something you know.First.Aspect said:
This is entirely wrong.swjohnsey said:If one candidate does not get at least 270 votes when the electoral college meets the election goes to the House of Representatives. Each state delegation gets one vote. In that scenario the election probably goes to Trump. The senate will select a vice president.
"12th Amendment
The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate; -- The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted; -- The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.-- The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
What an awesome democratic system. Was it designed by a Republican by any chance? I am just wondering if there is any was a Democrat who has lost could possibly stay in power.
Clue is in the name I guess.0 -
I dont know. Betfair arent sure and theyd know.bobmcstuff said:
It's still not going to happen.First.Aspect said:
I stand corrected.swjohnsey said:
You should stick to something you know.First.Aspect said:
This is entirely wrong.swjohnsey said:If one candidate does not get at least 270 votes when the electoral college meets the election goes to the House of Representatives. Each state delegation gets one vote. In that scenario the election probably goes to Trump. The senate will select a vice president.
"12th Amendment
The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate; -- The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted; -- The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.-- The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
What an awesome democratic system. Was it designed by a Republican by any chance? I am just wondering if there is any was a Democrat who has lost could possibly stay in power.
Clue is in the name I guess.
I cant be bothered to go back and add apostrophes.0 -
They're not sure by a very, very small amount (8%). Also presumably weighted by the amount of people betting on it.First.Aspect said:
I dont know. Betfair arent sure and theyd know.bobmcstuff said:
It's still not going to happen.First.Aspect said:
I stand corrected.swjohnsey said:
You should stick to something you know.First.Aspect said:
This is entirely wrong.swjohnsey said:If one candidate does not get at least 270 votes when the electoral college meets the election goes to the House of Representatives. Each state delegation gets one vote. In that scenario the election probably goes to Trump. The senate will select a vice president.
"12th Amendment
The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate; -- The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted; -- The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.-- The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
What an awesome democratic system. Was it designed by a Republican by any chance? I am just wondering if there is any was a Democrat who has lost could possibly stay in power.
Clue is in the name I guess.
I cant be bothered to go back and add apostrophes.
If Trump is still president 21st January it is tantamount to a coup.0 -
Betfair are a marketplace, so it's other people who are offering those odds.First.Aspect said:
I dont know. Betfair arent sure and theyd know.bobmcstuff said:
It's still not going to happen.First.Aspect said:
I stand corrected.swjohnsey said:
You should stick to something you know.First.Aspect said:
This is entirely wrong.swjohnsey said:If one candidate does not get at least 270 votes when the electoral college meets the election goes to the House of Representatives. Each state delegation gets one vote. In that scenario the election probably goes to Trump. The senate will select a vice president.
"12th Amendment
The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate; -- The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted; -- The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.-- The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
What an awesome democratic system. Was it designed by a Republican by any chance? I am just wondering if there is any was a Democrat who has lost could possibly stay in power.
Clue is in the name I guess.
I cant be bothered to go back and add apostrophes.
8/100 sounds amazing odds.0 -
I don't understand why the popular vote winner odds are 1.03 for Biden.
The next president I can kind of get, as he could die, or something weird. But popular vote? He's won that.0 -
Not if he pops off before the vote is certified.kingstongraham said:I don't understand why the popular vote winner odds are 1.03 for Biden.
The next president I can kind of get, as he could die, or something weird. But popular vote? He's won that.0 -
I suppose £10k might be worth it. Pay for a special offer at Martin Wishart when it reopens.darkhairedlord said:
Not if he pops off before the vote is certified.kingstongraham said:I don't understand why the popular vote winner odds are 1.03 for Biden.
The next president I can kind of get, as he could die, or something weird. But popular vote? He's won that.0 -
He's still won the popular vote, even then. Dude won election somewhere even though he died of covid.darkhairedlord said:
Not if he pops off before the vote is certified.kingstongraham said:I don't understand why the popular vote winner odds are 1.03 for Biden.
The next president I can kind of get, as he could die, or something weird. But popular vote? He's won that.0 -
Have you read the small print?kingstongraham said:
He's still won the popular vote, even then. Dude won election somewhere even though he died of covid.darkhairedlord said:
Not if he pops off before the vote is certified.kingstongraham said:I don't understand why the popular vote winner odds are 1.03 for Biden.
The next president I can kind of get, as he could die, or something weird. But popular vote? He's won that.0 -
I couldn't see anything about certification in there.First.Aspect said:
Have you read the small print?kingstongraham said:
He's still won the popular vote, even then. Dude won election somewhere even though he died of covid.darkhairedlord said:
Not if he pops off before the vote is certified.kingstongraham said:I don't understand why the popular vote winner odds are 1.03 for Biden.
The next president I can kind of get, as he could die, or something weird. But popular vote? He's won that.
I think 1000/1 for pence to be next president are pretty decent odds too.
Edit, scratch that, just read the rules of that market. It's who will be elected president in the 2020 election.0 -
What are the odds on Trump?kingstongraham said:
I couldn't see anything about certification in there.First.Aspect said:
Have you read the small print?kingstongraham said:
He's still won the popular vote, even then. Dude won election somewhere even though he died of covid.darkhairedlord said:
Not if he pops off before the vote is certified.kingstongraham said:I don't understand why the popular vote winner odds are 1.03 for Biden.
The next president I can kind of get, as he could die, or something weird. But popular vote? He's won that.
I think 1000/1 for pence to be next president are pretty decent odds too.
Edit, scratch that, just read the rules of that market. It's who will be elected president in the 2020 election.0