Donald Trump
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A genius like you can probably track my IP address.Pross said:
You can't even read. Texas and Texans get a say, internet trolls pretending to be from Texas don't get a say not even when they post in cliche ridden local dialect. Do y'all understand the point now? If not I'll simplify it. You aren't some Texan who stumbled on this forum whilst looking for advice on a Brompton. I'd be amazed if anyone has ever believed that although there's always a chance someone will believe anything if it appears to support their own point of view.swjohnsey said:
Texas does get a say. Texas controls 14% of electoral votes. They all went for Trump.Pross said:Yes but make believe Texans don't get a say as far as I'm aware.
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Trump doesn't have much support from the Republican Party but he has wide popular support. A 2024 run is a possibility.schlepcycling said:
Presumably Trump could enter the Republican primary in 2023 just like he did in 2015 and go from there. His problem is staying relevant without access to the vast machinery of the government to push his agenda and as they say a week is a long time in politics. Assuming that Biden's victory is ratified and he gets sworn in on January 20th, how much are people going to still be talking about Trump in 6, 12 or 18 months time. The news agenda is very fast moving and without the guaranteed publicity of the Presidency (except maybe his friends on Fox News) he'll be left somewhat shouting into the void. Also the problem for the Republican party is that if they back him in 2024 and he wins he can only serve 1 more term so they'd be looking for yet another post Trump candidate for 2028 and will others with Presidential ambitions be happy to put those ambitions on hold for potentially 8 more years.Pross said:Is there really any possibility of the Republicans choosing him as their candidate again? Would he run as an independent if not? I could imagine that playing to his ego and his desire to be seen to be taking on the "elite" but I'm not sure he could take the hammering he would get without Party support. Besides, by then he'll hopefully be tucked up in a nice Federal institution or at least have a record that prevents him standing.
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You might want to look at the history of the success of independents before posting this argument. He has literally no chance as an independent.step83 said:
Two trains of thought here.Pross said:Is there really any possibility of the Republicans choosing him as their candidate again? Would he run as an independent if not? I could imagine that playing to his ego and his desire to be seen to be taking on the "elite" but I'm not sure he could take the hammering he would get without Party support. Besides, by then he'll hopefully be tucked up in a nice Federal institution or at least have a record that prevents him standing.
Republicans could choose trump to run again knowing his popularity makes the odds of a win greater.
But then you have the risk of alienating a large portion of voters.
Conversely they may choose to distance themselves from him if these court cases fall though which appears likely.
He could easily run as an independent, it would suit his narrative as he could turn on both sides of the house citing corruption etc and how he would "drain the Swamp" as he keeps saying. Again he has a large support base to call on.1 -
Eric Trump's twitter is a bot.kingstongraham said:???
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He will endorse one of his sychophants instead. You will get the Hitler Himler 2024 ticket, instead.swjohnsey said:
Trump doesn't have much support from the Republican Party but he has wide popular support. A 2024 run is a possibility.schlepcycling said:
Presumably Trump could enter the Republican primary in 2023 just like he did in 2015 and go from there. His problem is staying relevant without access to the vast machinery of the government to push his agenda and as they say a week is a long time in politics. Assuming that Biden's victory is ratified and he gets sworn in on January 20th, how much are people going to still be talking about Trump in 6, 12 or 18 months time. The news agenda is very fast moving and without the guaranteed publicity of the Presidency (except maybe his friends on Fox News) he'll be left somewhat shouting into the void. Also the problem for the Republican party is that if they back him in 2024 and he wins he can only serve 1 more term so they'd be looking for yet another post Trump candidate for 2028 and will others with Presidential ambitions be happy to put those ambitions on hold for potentially 8 more years.Pross said:Is there really any possibility of the Republicans choosing him as their candidate again? Would he run as an independent if not? I could imagine that playing to his ego and his desire to be seen to be taking on the "elite" but I'm not sure he could take the hammering he would get without Party support. Besides, by then he'll hopefully be tucked up in a nice Federal institution or at least have a record that prevents him standing.
4 years is a long time when you are 74 already. Things will move on. He's also lost the popular vote twice now, and the Democrats have sort of cottoned on to targeted campaigning.0 -
Ivanka Trump 2024.0
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I'm quite well aware of history, but his sheer arrogance may see him try. 10 years ago, would you have said we would have Trump as the president of the US and a global pandemic?john80 said:
You might want to look at the history of the success of independents before posting this argument. He has literally no chance as an independent.step83 said:
Two trains of thought here.Pross said:Is there really any possibility of the Republicans choosing him as their candidate again? Would he run as an independent if not? I could imagine that playing to his ego and his desire to be seen to be taking on the "elite" but I'm not sure he could take the hammering he would get without Party support. Besides, by then he'll hopefully be tucked up in a nice Federal institution or at least have a record that prevents him standing.
Republicans could choose trump to run again knowing his popularity makes the odds of a win greater.
But then you have the risk of alienating a large portion of voters.
Conversely they may choose to distance themselves from him if these court cases fall though which appears likely.
He could easily run as an independent, it would suit his narrative as he could turn on both sides of the house citing corruption etc and how he would "drain the Swamp" as he keeps saying. Again he has a large support base to call on.
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The American political system is rigged to preclude any viable 3rd party attempt. I can only recall one successful run and that was Teddy Roosevelt and the Bull Moose Party. About all a 3rd party attempt can do now is be a spoiler.step83 said:
I'm quite well aware of history, but his sheer arrogance may see him try. 10 years ago, would you have said we would have Trump as the president of the US and a global pandemic?john80 said:
You might want to look at the history of the success of independents before posting this argument. He has literally no chance as an independent.step83 said:
Two trains of thought here.Pross said:Is there really any possibility of the Republicans choosing him as their candidate again? Would he run as an independent if not? I could imagine that playing to his ego and his desire to be seen to be taking on the "elite" but I'm not sure he could take the hammering he would get without Party support. Besides, by then he'll hopefully be tucked up in a nice Federal institution or at least have a record that prevents him standing.
Republicans could choose trump to run again knowing his popularity makes the odds of a win greater.
But then you have the risk of alienating a large portion of voters.
Conversely they may choose to distance themselves from him if these court cases fall though which appears likely.
He could easily run as an independent, it would suit his narrative as he could turn on both sides of the house citing corruption etc and how he would "drain the Swamp" as he keeps saying. Again he has a large support base to call on.
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Which is what I was getting at, he might well run as an independent, he can't win but it would presumably be good for the Democrats as he would prise away a few tens of thousands of votes from the Republicans. Jorgensen got about 1.5 million I think?swjohnsey said:
The American political system is rigged to preclude any viable 3rd party attempt. I can only recall one successful run and that was Teddy Roosevelt and the Bull Moose Party. About all a 3rd party attempt can do now is be a spoiler.step83 said:
I'm quite well aware of history, but his sheer arrogance may see him try. 10 years ago, would you have said we would have Trump as the president of the US and a global pandemic?john80 said:
You might want to look at the history of the success of independents before posting this argument. He has literally no chance as an independent.step83 said:
Two trains of thought here.Pross said:Is there really any possibility of the Republicans choosing him as their candidate again? Would he run as an independent if not? I could imagine that playing to his ego and his desire to be seen to be taking on the "elite" but I'm not sure he could take the hammering he would get without Party support. Besides, by then he'll hopefully be tucked up in a nice Federal institution or at least have a record that prevents him standing.
Republicans could choose trump to run again knowing his popularity makes the odds of a win greater.
But then you have the risk of alienating a large portion of voters.
Conversely they may choose to distance themselves from him if these court cases fall though which appears likely.
He could easily run as an independent, it would suit his narrative as he could turn on both sides of the house citing corruption etc and how he would "drain the Swamp" as he keeps saying. Again he has a large support base to call on.
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I would be more like Ross Perot and guarantee a Demokrap win.bobmcstuff said:
Which is what I was getting at, he might well run as an independent, he can't win but it would presumably be good for the Democrats as he would prise away a few tens of thousands of votes from the Republicans. Jorgensen got about 1.5 million I think?swjohnsey said:
The American political system is rigged to preclude any viable 3rd party attempt. I can only recall one successful run and that was Teddy Roosevelt and the Bull Moose Party. About all a 3rd party attempt can do now is be a spoiler.step83 said:
I'm quite well aware of history, but his sheer arrogance may see him try. 10 years ago, would you have said we would have Trump as the president of the US and a global pandemic?john80 said:
You might want to look at the history of the success of independents before posting this argument. He has literally no chance as an independent.step83 said:
Two trains of thought here.Pross said:Is there really any possibility of the Republicans choosing him as their candidate again? Would he run as an independent if not? I could imagine that playing to his ego and his desire to be seen to be taking on the "elite" but I'm not sure he could take the hammering he would get without Party support. Besides, by then he'll hopefully be tucked up in a nice Federal institution or at least have a record that prevents him standing.
Republicans could choose trump to run again knowing his popularity makes the odds of a win greater.
But then you have the risk of alienating a large portion of voters.
Conversely they may choose to distance themselves from him if these court cases fall though which appears likely.
He could easily run as an independent, it would suit his narrative as he could turn on both sides of the house citing corruption etc and how he would "drain the Swamp" as he keeps saying. Again he has a large support base to call on.
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He is probably better at disguising his identity when posing on "My Little Pony" fan sites.tailwindhome said:Oops
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I see they are still counting although it is not clear in how many states.0
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All of them. He got 94% of the vote in California but a dead guy voted 67 million times. That's what I heard.TheBigBean said:I see they are still counting although it is not clear in how many states.
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No one notices when you say something sensible Coop.coopster_the_1st said:
The Republicans need to consider that if they don't back him, and Trump runs as an independent, they will end up splitting the vote and thus the Democrats get in again. So their decision is going to be which option they would preferPross said:Is there really any possibility of the Republicans choosing him as their candidate again? Would he run as an independent if not? I could imagine that playing to his ego and his desire to be seen to be taking on the "elite" but I'm not sure he could take the hammering he would get without Party support. Besides, by then he'll hopefully be tucked up in a nice Federal institution or at least have a record that prevents him standing.
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...and no one has considered that Trump might be a crumbling mess in 4 years.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
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pinno said:
...and no one has considered that Trump might be a crumbling mess
in 4 years.1 -
Would he need to run as an independent? He wasn't a republican before 2014, and Sanders isn't a Democrat. He is the party now. They back him no matter how batsh1t because if they don't, they'll get primaried themselves.pinno said:
No one notices when you say something sensible Coop.coopster_the_1st said:
The Republicans need to consider that if they don't back him, and Trump runs as an independent, they will end up splitting the vote and thus the Democrats get in again. So their decision is going to be which option they would preferPross said:Is there really any possibility of the Republicans choosing him as their candidate again? Would he run as an independent if not? I could imagine that playing to his ego and his desire to be seen to be taking on the "elite" but I'm not sure he could take the hammering he would get without Party support. Besides, by then he'll hopefully be tucked up in a nice Federal institution or at least have a record that prevents him standing.
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The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
And has no money. He could join forces with farage in a new transatlantic WASP party.First.Aspect said:pinno said:...and no one has considered that Trump might be a crumbling mess
in 4 years.0 -
When the dust finally settles, it will be clear the damage Trump has done to the Republican party (and trust in government).kingstongraham said:
Would he need to run as an independent? He wasn't a republican before 2014, and Sanders isn't a Democrat. He is the party now. They back him no matter how batsh1t because if they don't, they'll get primaried themselves.pinno said:
No one notices when you say something sensible Coop.coopster_the_1st said:
The Republicans need to consider that if they don't back him, and Trump runs as an independent, they will end up splitting the vote and thus the Democrats get in again. So their decision is going to be which option they would preferPross said:Is there really any possibility of the Republicans choosing him as their candidate again? Would he run as an independent if not? I could imagine that playing to his ego and his desire to be seen to be taking on the "elite" but I'm not sure he could take the hammering he would get without Party support. Besides, by then he'll hopefully be tucked up in a nice Federal institution or at least have a record that prevents him standing.
When all the news agencies are no longer being attacked and told that they were printing fake news all the time, they will be free to print what they like about Trump, in all it's 'glory'.
IF he ends up in court over tax affairs and other matters, the Republican party will distance themselves.
Perhaps even a law suit from a female - the current climate in the US is ripe for that.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
Trump won't be running in 2024.
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Waddling?tailwindhome said:Trump won't be running in 2024.
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Clarify which Trump.tailwindhome said:Trump won't be running in 2024.
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Donaldkingstongraham said:
Clarify which Trump.tailwindhome said:Trump won't be running in 2024.
Why would he?
He did it.
He won the Presidency
Nothing changes that
Why run again?
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'Cos he hates losing?seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
