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I think the point is, they are treating people who have been unfairly arrested for 'looting and rioting' when they have been protesting, will lose the right to vote for a period, after which, assuming they are innocent, will resume their right to vote.step83 said:
My point being, they are branding protesters (who under the first amendment hold the right to protest) as felons. So this act goes against the first amendment. Obviously I'm citing peaceful protests, as protesting should not involve criminal damage etc.kingstongraham said:
Plenty of states prevent felons from voting.step83 said:So, he's signed a bill that goes against the first amendment? How in earth do they expect to get any court to recognise that.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_disenfranchisement_in_the_United_States
So for example a person stood silently outside say a government office holding a protest sign not interacting with anyone or causing a commotion can now be arrested for protesting, despite the first amendment stating...
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances"
Also, the Trump Republication convention may as well now be called the Trump convention, seeing as half the key speakers are from the Trump family, its like a bizarre dystopian Bradey Bunch.
Only that will now likely happen after the election.
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True, I suppose its a good way to target your non voters, that and the USPS, almost like they don't want some people to vote...rick_chasey said:
I think the point is, they are treating people who have been unfairly arrested for 'looting and rioting' when they have been protesting, will lose the right to vote for a period, after which, assuming they are innocent, will resume their right to vote.
Only that will now likely happen after the election.
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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-there-are-so-few-moderate-republicans-left/
About the US but equally applicable to the UK.
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Why is it that you "over there" seem more interested in Trump than us "over here"?0
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If true, it's because you're incurious to the point of neglect.dennisn said:Why is it that you "over there" seem more interested in Trump than us "over here"?
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Well, I will admit to never having an interest in politics, politicians, or celebs. I hardly watch the news anymore because it's nothing but talking heads lecturing me on the proper way to think and vote. The news used to be somewhat interesting but now......kingstongraham said:
If true, it's because you're incurious to the point of neglect.dennisn said:Why is it that you "over there" seem more interested in Trump than us "over here"?
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You genuinely have no interest in the person responsible for running your country?
I guess that's the sort of attitude that allows him to get away with attempting to do whatever he wants without even pretending it is in the interests of the country and why we didn't hear the laughter this side of the pond when his family (sorry, I mean the Republican Convention) praised his success in dealing with race relations yesterday.
Unfortunately, the position of the US in the world means he also has an impact on other countries. If he didn't I doubt we'd care.0 -
It is because when morons elect a moron in the US, potentially the entire planet has a bad time. A very bad time. A terrible time.dennisn said:Why is it that you "over there" seem more interested in Trump than us "over here"?
Its not reciprocal in that respect.0 -
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That's good Trump stylee. +1First.Aspect said:
...potentially the entire planet has a bad time. A very bad time. A terrible time.dennisn said:Why is it that you "over there" seem more interested in Trump than us "over here"?
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FWIW, I'm not sure how or why I must be interested in something that has never interested me. Even as a young kid I saw my parents and others watching political stuff on TV and wondered why they were so enthralled and seemingly very interested. That view still holds true today. Boring. Would rather read a good book.Pross said:You genuinely have no interest in the person responsible for running your country?
I guess that's the sort of attitude that allows him to get away with attempting to do whatever he wants without even pretending it is in the interests of the country and why we didn't hear the laughter this side of the pond when his family (sorry, I mean the Republican Convention) praised his success in dealing with race relations yesterday.
Unfortunately, the position of the US in the world means he also has an impact on other countries. If he didn't I doubt we'd care.0 -
In that case you have no moral right to vote.dennisn said:
FWIW, I'm not sure how or why I must be interested in something that has never interested me. Even as a young kid I saw my parents and others watching political stuff on TV and wondered why they were so enthralled and seemingly very interested. That view still holds true today. Boring. Would rather read a good book.Pross said:You genuinely have no interest in the person responsible for running your country?
I guess that's the sort of attitude that allows him to get away with attempting to do whatever he wants without even pretending it is in the interests of the country and why we didn't hear the laughter this side of the pond when his family (sorry, I mean the Republican Convention) praised his success in dealing with race relations yesterday.
Unfortunately, the position of the US in the world means he also has an impact on other countries. If he didn't I doubt we'd care.0 -
Recent history on both sides of the Atlantic would indicate that knowing what you are voting for while desirable is not a pre requisite.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I would support some simple supplementary competence based voting questions, such aspblakeney said:Recent history on both sides of the Atlantic would indicate that knowing what you are voting for while desirable is not a pre requisite.
"what colour is the colour blue? (a) blue (b) other
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"have you voted for (a) the president of the United States or (b) I don't know"
This would filter out about 30% of the republican vote, I reckon.0 -
So Pompeo breaking with tradition by addressing the Republican Convention and referring to Covid as 'the China virus' and how it was sent to ruin the US economy or words to that effect. He's supposed to be the country's most senior diplomat.
Tiffany Trump also seems to have learned her autocue skills from her father. It was so wooden she was like a 1980s Australian soap actress.0 -
If the shy Trump voters are still around in 2020 then the election is not a done deal.
My personal view is that Biden will crucify himself in the TV debates
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He's been in politics for 50 years. Give him some credit. I bet he will have had plenty of planning before hand in anticipation of Trump's potential line.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
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It's possible, because everyone already knows what a disaster Trump is when public speaking0
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I wasn't referring to Biden's political experience, it was more about his rumoured dementia. One mistake over the 3 televised debates and his presidential bid is toast.pinno said:He's been in politics for 50 years. Give him some credit. I bet he will have had plenty of planning before hand in anticipation of Trump's potential line.
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Sadly, this will not be the case for the Republican nominee . . .coopster_the_1st said:
I wasn't referring to Biden's political experience, it was more about his rumoured dementia. One mistake over the 3 televised debates and his presidential bid is toast.Wilier Izoard XP0 -
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I wasn't referring to Biden's political experience, it was more about his rumoured dementia. One mistake over the 3 televised debates and his presidential bid is toast.pinno said:He's been in politics for 50 years. Give him some credit. I bet he will have had plenty of planning before hand in anticipation of Trump's potential line.
How many mistakes per sentence does Trump make?0 -
Not so many since he washed his mouth out with bleach. 😉bompington said:
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I wasn't referring to Biden's political experience, it was more about his rumoured dementia. One mistake over the 3 televised debates and his presidential bid is toast.pinno said:He's been in politics for 50 years. Give him some credit. I bet he will have had plenty of planning before hand in anticipation of Trump's potential line.
How many mistakes per sentence does Trump make?The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Mrs Trump makes a speech on Wednesday apparently attempting to heal the widening rifts in the country. Husband makes a speech on Thursday trying to re-open them by seemingly referring to protesters as "violent anarchists, agitators, and criminals who threaten our citizens". It was very weird having the President being introduced by his own daughter, presumably as the administration has effectively sacked most of its proper politicians and the country is being run as though it is the family business.
It was good to see he was doing his bit for the economy via the flag makers. Seriously, how many flags to you need displayed behind you whilst making a speech? I guess that sort of thing plays out really well with his target audience but it may have helped to have a few Confederate flags among them.0 -
This needs to be placed in the irony thread.coopster_the_1st said:
I wasn't referring to Biden's political experience, it was more about his rumoured dementia. One mistake over the 3 televised debates and his presidential bid is toast.pinno said:He's been in politics for 50 years. Give him some credit. I bet he will have had plenty of planning before hand in anticipation of Trump's potential line.
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I think unfortunately if he did something like this, it would be made into a big story.coopster_the_1st said:
I wasn't referring to Biden's political experience, it was more about his rumoured dementia. One mistake over the 3 televised debates and his presidential bid is toast.pinno said:He's been in politics for 50 years. Give him some credit. I bet he will have had plenty of planning before hand in anticipation of Trump's potential line.
Trump gets away with a lot because there's so much of it, no one thing keeps the attention.0 -
kingstongraham said:
I think unfortunately if he did something like this, it would be made into a big story.coopster_the_1st said:
I wasn't referring to Biden's political experience, it was more about his rumoured dementia. One mistake over the 3 televised debates and his presidential bid is toast.pinno said:He's been in politics for 50 years. Give him some credit. I bet he will have had plenty of planning before hand in anticipation of Trump's potential line.
Trump gets away with a lot because there's so much of it, no one thing keeps the attention.
Ha, when even the pundits in the Fox News studio laugh when his brain short circuits, maybe even the Trumpists are starting to realise that there's a problem in that orange head of his.
He does seem to be having some problems... this, yesterday, after Rampgate a few weeks ago:
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Man with a proper title says what I’ve been saying - so I obviously wanted to share.0 -
I wonder how long it will take the wokey dokeys to realise that with every additional bit of destruction they are responsible for, the more the second Trump term looks likely. Probably Nov 4th as they are tin-eared to what the public really thinks of them.0
