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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Stevo_666 said:

    Is that tweet any different in a political sense to Labour tweeting the Tories will sell off the NHS?

    I fully expect wildly partisan tweets from supporters on both sides over the next 2 months.

    The difference is if Rick supported this position, he would relay the tweet as fact, when we know this is political positioning.
    Ironically there are a lot of people who believe the Labour claim that the Tories will sell off the NHS. Some have even post as much on this forum. I wonder what thst says about their intelligence?
    UK would be a better place if they had a more continental, heavily regulated private health system with free insurance for those who can't afford it.

    NHS is sh!t and it boils my p!ss no-one in this country will have a reasonable debate on why it is sh!t and how to improve it.

    Borderline religious. Drs and nurses are 'saints' and 'heroes'. It's a joke.
  • Stevo_666 said:

    Is that tweet any different in a political sense to Labour tweeting the Tories will sell off the NHS?

    I fully expect wildly partisan tweets from supporters on both sides over the next 2 months.

    The difference is if Rick supported this position, he would relay the tweet as fact, when we know this is political positioning.
    Ironically there are a lot of people who believe the Labour claim that the Tories will sell off the NHS. Some have even post as much on this forum.

    I wonder what that says about their intelligence?
    try pointing out that the NHS is a bit sh1t and see what happens
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,408
    edited September 2020

    Stevo_666 said:

    Is that tweet any different in a political sense to Labour tweeting the Tories will sell off the NHS?

    I fully expect wildly partisan tweets from supporters on both sides over the next 2 months.

    The difference is if Rick supported this position, he would relay the tweet as fact, when we know this is political positioning.
    Ironically there are a lot of people who believe the Labour claim that the Tories will sell off the NHS. Some have even post as much on this forum. I wonder what thst says about their intelligence?
    UK would be a better place if they had a more continental, heavily regulated private health system with free insurance for those who can't afford it.

    NHS is sh!t and it boils my p!ss no-one in this country will have a reasonable debate on why it is sh!t and how to improve it.

    Borderline religious. Drs and nurses are 'saints' and 'heroes'. It's a joke.
    You may well have a good point there, but it's a different one from people being stupid enough to believe a claim that is patently not true.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Is that tweet any different in a political sense to Labour tweeting the Tories will sell off the NHS?

    I fully expect wildly partisan tweets from supporters on both sides over the next 2 months.

    The difference is if Rick supported this position, he would relay the tweet as fact, when we know this is political positioning.
    Ironically there are a lot of people who believe the Labour claim that the Tories will sell off the NHS. Some have even post as much on this forum. I wonder what thst says about their intelligence?
    UK would be a better place if they had a more continental, heavily regulated private health system with free insurance for those who can't afford it.

    NHS is sh!t and it boils my p!ss no-one in this country will have a reasonable debate on why it is sh!t and how to improve it.

    Borderline religious. Drs and nurses are 'saints' and 'heroes'. It's a joke.
    You may well have a good point there, but it's a diffrrent one from people believing being stupid enough a claim that is patently not true.
    I don't think anyone really understands what it means when they say it. It just sounds generally like it might be bad, so it gets traction.

    I certainly don't understand what they mean.
  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    edited September 2020
    Stevo_666 said:

    Is that tweet any different in a political sense to Labour tweeting the Tories will sell off the NHS?

    I fully expect wildly partisan tweets from supporters on both sides over the next 2 months.

    The difference is if Rick supported this position, he would relay the tweet as fact, when we know this is political positioning.
    Ironically there are a lot of people who believe the Labour claim that the Tories will sell off the NHS. Some have even post as much on this forum. I wonder what thst says about their intelligence?
    Not as bright as the 'Students for Trump? :wink:
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,408

    Stevo_666 said:

    Is that tweet any different in a political sense to Labour tweeting the Tories will sell off the NHS?

    I fully expect wildly partisan tweets from supporters on both sides over the next 2 months.

    The difference is if Rick supported this position, he would relay the tweet as fact, when we know this is political positioning.
    Ironically there are a lot of people who believe the Labour claim that the Tories will sell off the NHS. Some have even post as much on this forum. I wonder what thst says about their intelligence?
    Not as bright as the 'Students for Trump? :wink:
    Pretty sure this lot would 'Trump' them :smile:
    marxiststudent.com/students-for-corbyn/
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666 said:

    Is that tweet any different in a political sense to Labour tweeting the Tories will sell off the NHS?

    I fully expect wildly partisan tweets from supporters on both sides over the next 2 months.

    The difference is if Rick supported this position, he would relay the tweet as fact, when we know this is political positioning.
    Ironically there are a lot of people who believe the Labour claim that the Tories will sell off the NHS. Some have even post as much on this forum. I wonder what thst says about their intelligence?
    Not as bright as the 'Students for Trump? :wink:
    An equivalent would be tweeting a picture of a row of boarded up shops in a town centre and saying "look at Labour's Britain".
  • My local hospital is sh1t, the one 6 miles away is sh1t. It has been decided that they will pour money into the sh1t hospital 4.5 miles away. My local hospital will lose some services but they will invest in polyclinics so you don't have to traipse to hospital for x-rays and minor ops.

    This is a good thing but the emotional outpouring is unbelievable.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,408
    edited September 2020

    Stevo_666 said:

    Is that tweet any different in a political sense to Labour tweeting the Tories will sell off the NHS?

    I fully expect wildly partisan tweets from supporters on both sides over the next 2 months.

    The difference is if Rick supported this position, he would relay the tweet as fact, when we know this is political positioning.
    Ironically there are a lot of people who believe the Labour claim that the Tories will sell off the NHS. Some have even post as much on this forum. I wonder what thst says about their intelligence?
    Not as bright as the 'Students for Trump? :wink:
    An equivalent would be tweeting a picture of a row of boarded up shops in a town centre and saying "look at Labour's Britain".
    I think the point is is that there are thickos dotted right across the political spectrum.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666 said:

    Is that tweet any different in a political sense to Labour tweeting the Tories will sell off the NHS?

    I fully expect wildly partisan tweets from supporters on both sides over the next 2 months.

    The difference is if Rick supported this position, he would relay the tweet as fact, when we know this is political positioning.
    Ironically there are a lot of people who believe the Labour claim that the Tories will sell off the NHS. Some have even post as much on this forum. I wonder what thst says about their intelligence?
    UK would be a better place if they had a more continental, heavily regulated private health system with free insurance for those who can't afford it.

    NHS is sh!t and it boils my p!ss no-one in this country will have a reasonable debate on why it is sh!t and how to improve it.

    Borderline religious. Drs and nurses are 'saints' and 'heroes'. It's a joke.
    Would make a good thread on its own. Just not now because it is sacrilege. They saved us all.

    I agree with you by the way, and so will anyone who has lived in, for example, Germany or Canada. (not the US, god no)
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463

    Stevo_666 said:

    Is that tweet any different in a political sense to Labour tweeting the Tories will sell off the NHS?

    I fully expect wildly partisan tweets from supporters on both sides over the next 2 months.

    The difference is if Rick supported this position, he would relay the tweet as fact, when we know this is political positioning.
    Ironically there are a lot of people who believe the Labour claim that the Tories will sell off the NHS. Some have even post as much on this forum. I wonder what thst says about their intelligence?
    UK would be a better place if they had a more continental, heavily regulated private health system with free insurance for those who can't afford it.

    NHS is sh!t and it boils my p!ss no-one in this country will have a reasonable debate on why it is sh!t and how to improve it.

    Borderline religious. Drs and nurses are 'saints' and 'heroes'. It's a joke.
    I've had mixed experiences, the service provided when we really needed it for my daughter was excellent but it still relied in part on additional support services provided by charity. However, I do agree regarding the way it is off limits to criticise it in principal and that doing so will get you accused of wanting to 'sell it off' or that in criticising the institution you are somehow insulting those that work in it (even though many of those are critical). It is now over 70 years old, expectations of what it should provide have changed as has the medical science and whilst it will have undergone near constant tinkering what is really required is a full review to make it as cost effective as possible in providing the services expected of it but no Party will go there as they'll get accused of trying to privatise it if they do.
  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965
    edited September 2020
    The main problem with the NHS is the public's view that every health complaint shall be treated to some form of international gold standard without realising there is an overall budget. The next problem is the complete lack of accountability between what personal choices people make and the resulting impact on this health budget. The NHS can't provide drugs at 60k a month to give an individual a few more weeks of life anymore than it can treat diabetes on mass that was entirely avoidable for a high number of sufferers. What we save on the good bits such as efficiency from scale and control of the market we loose from people behaviours to the fact it is free at the point of use.
  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    edited September 2020
    john80 said:

    The main problem with the NHS is the public's view that every health complaint shall be treated to some form of international gold standard without realising there is an overall budget. The next problem is the complete lack of accountability between what personal choices people make and the resulting impact on this health budget. The NHS can't provide drugs at 60k a month to give an individual a few more weeks of life anymore than it can treat diabetes on mass that was entirely avoidable for a high number of sufferers. What we save on the good bits such as efficiency from scale and control of the market we loose from people behaviours to the fact it is free at the point of use.

    Cost of treatment/cure is very relevant to the current pandemic.

    How many lives have been saved for the current £190bn spent (July figure). If we say 20k lives saved that's £9.5m for each life...
  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965

    john80 said:

    The main problem with the NHS is the public's view that every health complaint shall be treated to some form of international gold standard without realising there is an overall budget. The next problem is the complete lack of accountability between what personal choices people make and the resulting impact on this health budget. The NHS can't provide drugs at 60k a month to give an individual a few more weeks of life anymore than it can treat diabetes on mass that was entirely avoidable for a high number of sufferers. What we save on the good bits such as efficiency from scale and control of the market we loose from people behaviours to the fact it is free at the point of use.

    Cost of treatment/cure is very relevant to the current pandemic.

    How many lives have been saved for the current £190bn spent (July figure). If we say 20k lives saved that's £9.5m for each life...
    Lets hope they were young high future earners at that cost. Hold on a minute.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited September 2020
    john80 said:

    The main problem with the NHS is the public's view that every health complaint shall be treated to some form of international gold standard without realising there is an overall budget. The next problem is the complete lack of accountability between what personal choices people make and the resulting impact on this health budget. The NHS can't provide drugs at 60k a month to give an individual a few more weeks of life anymore than it can treat diabetes on mass that was entirely avoidable for a high number of sufferers. What we save on the good bits such as efficiency from scale and control of the market we loose from people behaviours to the fact it is free at the point of use.

    I would suggest the bold bit is an ideological position and not necessarily a practical one, and people will feel differently about it depending on where they sit on the individual freedom vs collective responsibility spectrum.


  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    edited September 2020

    john80 said:

    The main problem with the NHS is the public's view that every health complaint shall be treated to some form of international gold standard without realising there is an overall budget. The next problem is the complete lack of accountability between what personal choices people make and the resulting impact on this health budget. The NHS can't provide drugs at 60k a month to give an individual a few more weeks of life anymore than it can treat diabetes on mass that was entirely avoidable for a high number of sufferers. What we save on the good bits such as efficiency from scale and control of the market we loose from people behaviours to the fact it is free at the point of use.

    Cost of treatment/cure is very relevant to the current pandemic.

    How many lives have been saved for the current £190bn spent (July figure). If we say 20k lives saved that's £9.5m for each life...
    If we said 20k, we're probably underestimating much worse than you did in your original estimates of how many would die in the first few weeks. But that's for another thread.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    edited September 2020

    john80 said:

    The main problem with the NHS is the public's view that every health complaint shall be treated to some form of international gold standard without realising there is an overall budget. The next problem is the complete lack of accountability between what personal choices people make and the resulting impact on this health budget. The NHS can't provide drugs at 60k a month to give an individual a few more weeks of life anymore than it can treat diabetes on mass that was entirely avoidable for a high number of sufferers. What we save on the good bits such as efficiency from scale and control of the market we loose from people behaviours to the fact it is free at the point of use.

    Cost of treatment/cure is very relevant to the current pandemic.

    How many lives have been saved for the current £190bn spent (July figure). If we say 20k lives saved that's £9.5m for each life...
    Interesting maths. How much are you worth?

    If you take the original death estimates, which were more like 250000, then you arrive at a more modest £750k per person. Not including the costs to deal with the health crisis that we would have incurred under that scenario. And that's assuming that imperials numbers (which at the time were predicting 20k deaths with lockdown, rather than the 45k we've had) are in the right ball park.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    john80 said:

    The main problem with the NHS is the public's view that every health complaint shall be treated to some form of international gold standard without realising there is an overall budget. The next problem is the complete lack of accountability between what personal choices people make and the resulting impact on this health budget. The NHS can't provide drugs at 60k a month to give an individual a few more weeks of life anymore than it can treat diabetes on mass that was entirely avoidable for a high number of sufferers. What we save on the good bits such as efficiency from scale and control of the market we loose from people behaviours to the fact it is free at the point of use.

    Cost of treatment/cure is very relevant to the current pandemic.

    How many lives have been saved for the current £190bn spent (July figure). If we say 20k lives saved that's £9.5m for each life...
    Interesting maths. How much are you worth?

    If you take the original death estimates, which were more like 250000, then you arrive at a more modest £750k per person. Not in listing the costs to deal with the health crisis that we would have incurred under that scenario. And that's assuming that imperials numbers (which at the time were predicting 20k deaths with lockdown, rather than the 45k we've had) are in the right ball park.
    I have in the back of my mind a figure of the value attributed to a UK life by the UK gov't and it's something like £1m or around there. Can't remember where I read it now.
  • john80 said:

    The main problem with the NHS is the public's view that every health complaint shall be treated to some form of international gold standard without realising there is an overall budget. The next problem is the complete lack of accountability between what personal choices people make and the resulting impact on this health budget. The NHS can't provide drugs at 60k a month to give an individual a few more weeks of life anymore than it can treat diabetes on mass that was entirely avoidable for a high number of sufferers. What we save on the good bits such as efficiency from scale and control of the market we loose from people behaviours to the fact it is free at the point of use.

    Cost of treatment/cure is very relevant to the current pandemic.

    How many lives have been saved for the current £190bn spent (July figure). If we say 20k lives saved that's £9.5m for each life...
    Interesting maths. How much are you worth?

    If you take the original death estimates, which were more like 250000, then you arrive at a more modest £750k per person. Not in listing the costs to deal with the health crisis that we would have incurred under that scenario. And that's assuming that imperials numbers (which at the time were predicting 20k deaths with lockdown, rather than the 45k we've had) are in the right ball park.
    I have in the back of my mind a figure of the value attributed to a UK life by the UK gov't and it's something like £1m or around there. Can't remember where I read it now.
    Sounds about right, from an economic perspective. I. Thinking about what the average salary is, and how little of it people don't give away in taxes and spending.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    john80 said:

    The main problem with the NHS is the public's view that every health complaint shall be treated to some form of international gold standard without realising there is an overall budget. The next problem is the complete lack of accountability between what personal choices people make and the resulting impact on this health budget. The NHS can't provide drugs at 60k a month to give an individual a few more weeks of life anymore than it can treat diabetes on mass that was entirely avoidable for a high number of sufferers. What we save on the good bits such as efficiency from scale and control of the market we loose from people behaviours to the fact it is free at the point of use.

    Cost of treatment/cure is very relevant to the current pandemic.

    How many lives have been saved for the current £190bn spent (July figure). If we say 20k lives saved that's £9.5m for each life...
    Interesting maths. How much are you worth?

    If you take the original death estimates, which were more like 250000, then you arrive at a more modest £750k per person. Not in listing the costs to deal with the health crisis that we would have incurred under that scenario. And that's assuming that imperials numbers (which at the time were predicting 20k deaths with lockdown, rather than the 45k we've had) are in the right ball park.
    I have in the back of my mind a figure of the value attributed to a UK life by the UK gov't and it's something like £1m or around there. Can't remember where I read it now.
    Sounds about right, from an economic perspective. I. Thinking about what the average salary is, and how little of it people don't give away in taxes and spending.
    Yeah I think in the CBAs of various safety schemes and the like if it's more than £1m per head it's not good value. I think it's more complicated than that, but that's the idea.

  • john80 said:

    The main problem with the NHS is the public's view that every health complaint shall be treated to some form of international gold standard without realising there is an overall budget. The next problem is the complete lack of accountability between what personal choices people make and the resulting impact on this health budget. The NHS can't provide drugs at 60k a month to give an individual a few more weeks of life anymore than it can treat diabetes on mass that was entirely avoidable for a high number of sufferers. What we save on the good bits such as efficiency from scale and control of the market we loose from people behaviours to the fact it is free at the point of use.

    Cost of treatment/cure is very relevant to the current pandemic.

    How many lives have been saved for the current £190bn spent (July figure). If we say 20k lives saved that's £9.5m for each life...
    Interesting maths. How much are you worth?

    If you take the original death estimates, which were more like 250000, then you arrive at a more modest £750k per person. Not in listing the costs to deal with the health crisis that we would have incurred under that scenario. And that's assuming that imperials numbers (which at the time were predicting 20k deaths with lockdown, rather than the 45k we've had) are in the right ball park.
    I have in the back of my mind a figure of the value attributed to a UK life by the UK gov't and it's something like £1m or around there. Can't remember where I read it now.
    Sounds about right, from an economic perspective. I. Thinking about what the average salary is, and how little of it people don't give away in taxes and spending.
    Yeah I think in the CBAs of various safety schemes and the like if it's more than £1m per head it's not good value. I think it's more complicated than that, but that's the idea.


    I'm trying to remember the TV interview, with Cecil Parkinson, I think, ooh, probably 35 years ago, following some UK rail disaster... whoever the minister was, he was asked why the UK didn't install the same safety system they have in Switzerland, and the response was that it would cost something like £2m per life saved, but road safety measures cost about £80k per life saved, at that time. It was obviously bolstering the argument that roads deserved all the investment, but I was interested at the time that such figures were calculated.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    john80 said:

    The main problem with the NHS is the public's view that every health complaint shall be treated to some form of international gold standard without realising there is an overall budget. The next problem is the complete lack of accountability between what personal choices people make and the resulting impact on this health budget. The NHS can't provide drugs at 60k a month to give an individual a few more weeks of life anymore than it can treat diabetes on mass that was entirely avoidable for a high number of sufferers. What we save on the good bits such as efficiency from scale and control of the market we loose from people behaviours to the fact it is free at the point of use.

    Cost of treatment/cure is very relevant to the current pandemic.

    How many lives have been saved for the current £190bn spent (July figure). If we say 20k lives saved that's £9.5m for each life...
    Interesting maths. How much are you worth?

    If you take the original death estimates, which were more like 250000, then you arrive at a more modest £750k per person. Not in listing the costs to deal with the health crisis that we would have incurred under that scenario. And that's assuming that imperials numbers (which at the time were predicting 20k deaths with lockdown, rather than the 45k we've had) are in the right ball park.
    I have in the back of my mind a figure of the value attributed to a UK life by the UK gov't and it's something like £1m or around there. Can't remember where I read it now.
    Sounds about right, from an economic perspective. I. Thinking about what the average salary is, and how little of it people don't give away in taxes and spending.
    Yeah I think in the CBAs of various safety schemes and the like if it's more than £1m per head it's not good value. I think it's more complicated than that, but that's the idea.


    I'm trying to remember the TV interview, with Cecil Parkinson, I think, ooh, probably 35 years ago, following some UK rail disaster... whoever the minister was, he was asked why the UK didn't install the same safety system they have in Switzerland, and the response was that it would cost something like £2m per life saved, but road safety measures cost about £80k per life saved, at that time. It was obviously bolstering the argument that roads deserved all the investment, but I was interested at the time that such figures were calculated.
    Yeah. It's obviously political too, else we'd all have phenomenal cycling infrastructure by now ;)
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    https://www.ft.com/content/e00120a2-74cd-11ea-ad98-044200cb277f

    Free to read: How do we value a statistical life?
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,320



    Yeah I think in the CBAs of various safety schemes and the like if it's more than £1m per head it's not good value. I think it's more complicated than that, but that's the idea.

    Oh that's a relief. I have cost the NHS something iro £650k so does that mean there's a bit of loose change for any future treatment?

    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,349
    edited September 2020
    pinno said:



    Yeah I think in the CBAs of various safety schemes and the like if it's more than £1m per head it's not good value. I think it's more complicated than that, but that's the idea.

    Oh that's a relief. I have cost the NHS something iro £650k so does that mean there's a bit of loose change for any future treatment?


    That'd be about two nights in a maternity ward in the US, so don't get pregnant and have a baby there. Get back to the UK if you possibly can.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463

    john80 said:

    The main problem with the NHS is the public's view that every health complaint shall be treated to some form of international gold standard without realising there is an overall budget. The next problem is the complete lack of accountability between what personal choices people make and the resulting impact on this health budget. The NHS can't provide drugs at 60k a month to give an individual a few more weeks of life anymore than it can treat diabetes on mass that was entirely avoidable for a high number of sufferers. What we save on the good bits such as efficiency from scale and control of the market we loose from people behaviours to the fact it is free at the point of use.

    Cost of treatment/cure is very relevant to the current pandemic.

    How many lives have been saved for the current £190bn spent (July figure). If we say 20k lives saved that's £9.5m for each life...
    Interesting maths. How much are you worth?

    If you take the original death estimates, which were more like 250000, then you arrive at a more modest £750k per person. Not in listing the costs to deal with the health crisis that we would have incurred under that scenario. And that's assuming that imperials numbers (which at the time were predicting 20k deaths with lockdown, rather than the 45k we've had) are in the right ball park.
    I have in the back of my mind a figure of the value attributed to a UK life by the UK gov't and it's something like £1m or around there. Can't remember where I read it now.
    Sounds about right, from an economic perspective. I. Thinking about what the average salary is, and how little of it people don't give away in taxes and spending.
    Yeah I think in the CBAs of various safety schemes and the like if it's more than £1m per head it's not good value. I think it's more complicated than that, but that's the idea.

    In road safety the cost per fatal casualty has been calculated at just under £2 million but that includes things like lost productivity while the road is closed for investigation. Of course, for the non-sociopathic members of society the thought of accepting £2 million in return for having a loved one taken away would be reprehensible (but others aren't worth as much).
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,554

    Stevo_666 said:

    Is that tweet any different in a political sense to Labour tweeting the Tories will sell off the NHS?

    I fully expect wildly partisan tweets from supporters on both sides over the next 2 months.

    The difference is if Rick supported this position, he would relay the tweet as fact, when we know this is political positioning.
    Ironically there are a lot of people who believe the Labour claim that the Tories will sell off the NHS. Some have even post as much on this forum. I wonder what thst says about their intelligence?
    UK would be a better place if they had a more continental, heavily regulated private health system with free insurance for those who can't afford it.

    NHS is sh!t and it boils my p!ss no-one in this country will have a reasonable debate on why it is sh!t and how to improve it.

    Borderline religious. Drs and nurses are 'saints' and 'heroes'. It's a joke.
    Would make a good thread on its own. Just not now because it is sacrilege. They saved us all.

    I agree with you by the way, and so will anyone who has lived in, for example, Germany or Canada. (not the US, god no)
    My brother lives in Canada. He is less enamoured of the Canadian system as a friend has to part fund their ongoing cancer medication to the tune of several hundred dollars a month. Their insurance only covers half the cost.
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,320

    pinno said:



    Yeah I think in the CBAs of various safety schemes and the like if it's more than £1m per head it's not good value. I think it's more complicated than that, but that's the idea.

    Oh that's a relief. I have cost the NHS something iro £650k so does that mean there's a bit of loose change for any future treatment?


    That'd be about two nights in a maternity ward in the US, so don't get pregnant and have a baby there. Get back to the UK if you possibly can.
    You might find this slightly surprising but:
    a) have no intentions of going to the US and
    b) I have no intentions of getting pregnant.

    But thank you for the sage advice.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • pinno said:

    pinno said:



    Yeah I think in the CBAs of various safety schemes and the like if it's more than £1m per head it's not good value. I think it's more complicated than that, but that's the idea.

    Oh that's a relief. I have cost the NHS something iro £650k so does that mean there's a bit of loose change for any future treatment?


    That'd be about two nights in a maternity ward in the US, so don't get pregnant and have a baby there. Get back to the UK if you possibly can.
    You might find this slightly surprising but:
    a) have no intentions of going to the US and
    b) I have no intentions of getting pregnant.

    But thank you for the sage advice.
    Glad you're playing safe.