Donald Trump
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That's exactly why the Trump team is encouraging violence against the protesters. They think that saying "biden's America", and showing violence happening in trump's America is a winning strategy.coopster_the_1st said:
I wonder how long it will take the wokey dokeys to realise that with every additional bit of destruction they are responsible for, the more the second Trump term looks likely. Probably Nov 4th as they are tin-eared to what the public really thinks of them.
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Biden has condemned the violence. Trump has not condemned the shooting by his supporter.0
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In a country with that firepower in private hands, it's incredibly scary.rick_chasey said:Fascists inciting violence and claiming they’re just sorting it out shocker.
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I’m more preoccupied with the logical end game of a fascist with no accountability in charge of the world’s largest militarykingstongraham said:
In a country with that firepower in private hands, it's incredibly scary.rick_chasey said:Fascists inciting violence and claiming they’re just sorting it out shocker.
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The uncomfortable truth is the these BLM tribes (Burning, Looting Morons) are Biden supporters and voters. Every time they kick off, attacking everyone and everything, the stronger Trump becomes as undecided voters do not want to be associated with a movement that is destroying parts of their country...kingstongraham said:
That's exactly why the Trump team is encouraging violence against the protesters. They think that saying "biden's America", and showing violence happening in trump's America is a winning strategy.coopster_the_1st said:
I wonder how long it will take the wokey dokeys to realise that with every additional bit of destruction they are responsible for, the more the second Trump term looks likely. Probably Nov 4th as they are tin-eared to what the public really thinks of them.0 -
I don't see the violent protesters wearing Biden shirts or waving Biden flags. They would probably prefer him to Trump, but get real.coopster_the_1st said:
The uncomfortable truth is the these BLM tribes (Burning, Looting Morons) are Biden supporters and voters. Every time they kick off, attacking everyone and everything, the stronger Trump becomes as undecided voters do not want to be associated with a movement that is destroying parts of their country...kingstongraham said:
That's exactly why the Trump team is encouraging violence against the protesters. They think that saying "biden's America", and showing violence happening in trump's America is a winning strategy.coopster_the_1st said:
I wonder how long it will take the wokey dokeys to realise that with every additional bit of destruction they are responsible for, the more the second Trump term looks likely. Probably Nov 4th as they are tin-eared to what the public really thinks of them.0 -
I am real. I'm just saying it how I see it but as per usual reality makes you and the others wokeys uncomfortable.kingstongraham said:
I don't see the violent protesters wearing Biden shirts or waving Biden flags. They would probably prefer him to Trump, but get real.coopster_the_1st said:
The uncomfortable truth is the these BLM tribes (Burning, Looting Morons) are Biden supporters and voters. Every time they kick off, attacking everyone and everything, the stronger Trump becomes as undecided voters do not want to be associated with a movement that is destroying parts of their country...kingstongraham said:
That's exactly why the Trump team is encouraging violence against the protesters. They think that saying "biden's America", and showing violence happening in trump's America is a winning strategy.coopster_the_1st said:
I wonder how long it will take the wokey dokeys to realise that with every additional bit of destruction they are responsible for, the more the second Trump term looks likely. Probably Nov 4th as they are tin-eared to what the public really thinks of them.
I have little skin in the game but am already tired of the election and want it finished yesterday. The main thing I want is the democratic result respected! I see more rioting if Trump wins than if Biden wins. Those rioting now are the same people who will indiscriminately riot and loot if Trump wins. That's why I put them in Biden's camp because they won't riot if Biden wins...0 -
Let's change the characters but keep the logic...
The uncomfortable truth is the these BF tribes are Johnson supporters and voters. Every time they kick off, attacking everyone and everything, the stronger Strarmer becomes as undecided voters do not want to be associated with a movement that is destroying parts of their country...
"In September 2019, Britain First's former deputy leader Jayda Fransen declared that she was "actually delighted at Boris's work so far" and called for an alliance between the Conservative Party and the Brexit Party in the next general election.[39]
"Following Johnson's victory in the 2019 United Kingdom general election, Britain First sent an email to supporters calling on them to join the Conservative Party in order "to make Boris Johnson's leadership more secure", stating that its chief of staff had campaigned for the Conservatives at the last election, and expressing a desire to play an equivalent role to that of Momentum within the Labour Party.[40] Subsequently, Britain First's leader, Paul Golding, announced that he had joined the Conservative Party, hailing Johnson's remarks on the burqa as evidence that Johnson is a "populist nationalist under the surface". However, the party said that his application had not been approved.[41]
"On 28 December 2019, Britain First claimed that 5,000 of its members had joined the Conservatives in order to "support Boris Johnson’s stance on radical Islam". Its spokeswoman, Ashlea Simon, stated that the organisation's followers "appreciate Priti Patel's and Boris Johnson's hardline approach" to terrorism."
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Utterly bizarre that the President is blaming trouble occuring now in the country he is allegedly running is the fault of the person challenging him in the election. What's even more baffling is that the US voters seem to be falling for it.0
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Currently listening to Trump's statement on BBC News 24.
Hopefully - he'll stir up so much antipathy from the opposition and alienate others, he'll drive himself out of the Whitehouse.
Bring on the TV debates.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
No he won't, pinno. Too many racist, Republican fvckw1ts will side with his lunacy and will vote for him. The Dems will turn out in fewer numbers and coupled with vote rigging, USPS shenanigans and his 5h1t stirring in Dem states will likely mean another four years for Trump.Not a Giro Hero!1
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Why would 'Dems' turn out in fewer numbers? That makes no sense.
Also, the vast majority of black and other ethnic groups might (like they did for Obama) turn out in higher numbers, whereas traditionally, they don't.
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Anyhoo, Putin must be giggling his red socks off.seanoconn - gruagach craic!1
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Too busy moaning on social media rather than getting their 8rse out and voting. Happened in 2016. Popular vote went to Clinton but weren't enough to sway the electoral college. It will be the same in November.
I note you not disagree with me regarding the orange d1ckhead's machinations.Not a Giro Hero!0 -
Jesus H Christ!
Biden or Trump.
No wonder America is such a clusterf*ck.
I still can't believe there wasn't a better candidate for opposition than that old duffer.2 -
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rick_chasey said:
Jesus. The US is already the country where everyone flies a national flag on their lawn and sings the national anthem at the start of peewee football matches. Do they really need reminding?rick_chasey said:1 -
Repeat it often enough and it becomes accepted as fact.
Something the Trumpster relies on.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Kim Yong Un is one of his best friends.pblakeney said:Repeat it often enough and it becomes accepted as fact.
Something the Trumpster relies on.0 -
It's seriously fucking scary but,rick_chasey said:
I'm not sure he is a facist as that has an ideology. Isn't he just a narcissist using oppressive tactics to consolidate power and quell dissent?
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morstar said:
It's seriously censored scary but,rick_chasey said:
I'm not sure he is a facist as that has an ideology. Isn't he just a narcissist using oppressive tactics to consolidate power and quell dissent?
I think the danger is he is being used/manipulated by those who do have an ideology.0 -
Fair point...briantrumpet said:morstar said:
It's seriously censored scary but,rick_chasey said:
I'm not sure he is a facist as that has an ideology. Isn't he just a narcissist using oppressive tactics to consolidate power and quell dissent?
I think the danger is he is being used/manipulated by those who do have an ideology.
With a normal human being...
However, suggesting the biggliest bestest president with all the best words could be manipulated is offensive in the extemeliest.0 -
It's very simple, Trump is supporting the police and law & order.Pross said:Utterly bizarre that the President is blaming trouble occuring now in the country he is allegedly running is the fault of the person challenging him in the election. What's even more baffling is that the US voters seem to be falling for it.
Those throwing rocks, burning cars and blockading the streets are the opposition, supporting and supported by the Dems. The Dems need to distance themselves from the rioting and convince them to go home before this spirals out of control and into Trumps hand. Of course, if they go home then Trump can claim victory over the anarchists. If the Dems calm them down then they will be associated with the anarchists, looters and rioters. In the grand scheme, Trump might have this sown up already.0 -
He is fascist. Seriously.morstar said:
It's seriously censored scary but,rick_chasey said:
I'm not sure he is a facist as that has an ideology. Isn't he just a narcissist using oppressive tactics to consolidate power and quell dissent?
Look up the fascist playbook on 'what to do in the rare event you get elected in' and you'll see the same behaviour described as what Trump and his party have done.
Cult of personality - check
Gradual erosion of accountability - check
flouting 'norms' and working to reduce scrutiny - check
pitching everything as a battle between 'us' and 'them' - check
policies that are aimed specifically to hurt minorities - check
backing police to engage in behaviour that hurts minorities - check
using police to start street battles and using said battles as pre-text to shut down democracy - check
increasing militarisation of police - check
heavy use of nepotism and filling up your own and your mates' pockets - check
using racist rhetoric to win votes, implicit or explicit - check
working hard to reduce voter turn out - check
it goes on and on and on and on.
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Do you not reckon Briantrumpet is closer to the mark though?
I don't think the man stands for anything good or bad other than himself. He has one interest and one interest only.0 -
Both can be true.morstar said:Do you not reckon Briantrumpet is closer to the mark though?
I don't think the man stands for anything good or bad other than himself. He has one interest and one interest only.
Even if only accidentally.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Fair, I guess it's a very technical debate. The outcomes are facist. I guess I'm just querying the motivation.pblakeney said:
Both can be true.morstar said:Do you not reckon Briantrumpet is closer to the mark though?
I don't think the man stands for anything good or bad other than himself. He has one interest and one interest only.
Even if only accidentally.
A valid question but not one to lose sleep over.0 -
I think a critical feature of fascism is the cult of the leader and to want that is the leader to only be interested in themselves anyway.morstar said:
Fair, I guess it's a very technical debate. The outcomes are facist. I guess I'm just querying the motivation.pblakeney said:
Both can be true.morstar said:Do you not reckon Briantrumpet is closer to the mark though?
I don't think the man stands for anything good or bad other than himself. He has one interest and one interest only.
Even if only accidentally.
A valid question but not one to lose sleep over.
Just because he’s thick and doesn’t argue coherently. His base instinct is far right authoritarian with a penchant for hating on minorities, seeing the world as zero sum (critical) and enjoys dividing and winding up.0
