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  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    I know some folk here are glad Donald Trump is the PotUS Elect and I'm not ready to stop discussing other things with said folk because of this. Ie I'll still help, if you post in Workshop with a misbehaving front mech.

    But - if you'll oblige me - what is it about Trump that makes you happy he's the PotUS Elect?

    Don't be vague and give me the anti-establishment talk; let me know which of Trump's ideas really do it for you.

    Is it the wall? The Pro-Life stance? The fact he thinks he's mates with Russia?

    I'm not looking for a fight here. I'm just a bit tired of "well, he's not political elite" soundbites. Those soundbites don't really mean anything.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Decent take on the difference between being pro-business and pro-market.

    https://promarket.org/donald-trumps-eco ... ro-market/
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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    Ben6899 wrote:
    I know some folk here are glad Donald Trump is the PotUS Elect and I'm not ready to stop discussing other things with said folk because of this. Ie I'll still help, if you post in Workshop with a misbehaving front mech.

    But - if you'll oblige me - what is it about Trump that makes you happy he's the PotUS Elect?

    Don't be vague and give me the anti-establishment talk; let me know which of Trump's ideas really do it for you.

    Is it the wall? The Pro-Life stance? The fact he thinks he's mates with Russia?

    I'm not looking for a fight here. I'm just a bit tired of "well, he's not political elite" soundbites. Those soundbites don't really mean anything.

    I'm fiercely anti. But the BBC produced a list.

    I could go with: 7 (but it's complicated), 10 (as a matter of fact), 12 and 13 (probably), 16 and 17 (certainly), and 24

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34903577
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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    bendertherobot wrote:
    Ben6899 wrote:
    I know some folk here are glad Donald Trump is the PotUS Elect and I'm not ready to stop discussing other things with said folk because of this. Ie I'll still help, if you post in Workshop with a misbehaving front mech.

    But - if you'll oblige me - what is it about Trump that makes you happy he's the PotUS Elect?

    Don't be vague and give me the anti-establishment talk; let me know which of Trump's ideas really do it for you.

    Is it the wall? The Pro-Life stance? The fact he thinks he's mates with Russia?

    I'm not looking for a fight here. I'm just a bit tired of "well, he's not political elite" soundbites. Those soundbites don't really mean anything.

    I'm fiercely anti. But the BBC produced a list.

    I could go with: 7 (but it's complicated), 10 (as a matter of fact), 12 and 13 (probably), 16 and 17 (certainly), and 24

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34903577

    they did a similar list for Corbyn and I agreed with about half of his policies - mainly about giving back overseas territories, abolishing the monarchy and scrapping HS2 and Hinckley Point.

    on that list I only agree with a couple - currently I am finding him funny, maybe we should have more absurd leaders
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    bendertherobot wrote:
    Ben6899 wrote:
    I know some folk here are glad Donald Trump is the PotUS Elect and I'm not ready to stop discussing other things with said folk because of this. Ie I'll still help, if you post in Workshop with a misbehaving front mech.

    But - if you'll oblige me - what is it about Trump that makes you happy he's the PotUS Elect?

    Don't be vague and give me the anti-establishment talk; let me know which of Trump's ideas really do it for you.

    Is it the wall? The Pro-Life stance? The fact he thinks he's mates with Russia?

    I'm not looking for a fight here. I'm just a bit tired of "well, he's not political elite" soundbites. Those soundbites don't really mean anything.

    I'm fiercely anti. But the BBC produced a list.

    I could go with: 7 (but it's complicated), 10 (as a matter of fact), 12 and 13 (probably), 16 and 17 (certainly), and 24

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34903577

    Thanks mate.

    7 - Very complicated. And even the PotUS can't reanimate dead despots.
    10 - so was Hitler. I'm really not sure how Trump plans to carry on with the Russians - he admits himself that the respect is far from mutual.
    12 - I doubt he really cares. It's a populous comment.
    13 - This might be the only one I truly agree with.
    16 - oh this one's reasonable as well.
    17 - thin end of the wedge, IMO.
    24 - if he sticks with it, rather than just using it to be that really nice guy (#18)

    A lot of those points in the article actually reveal he's a pretty scary prospect.
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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    I think he'll base much of what he does on 13. They're the bad guys in his eyes. And, yes, taking comfort from some you may have some common ground (and I base mine on the titles more than the content of some of them) is scant comfort indeed.
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  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    Indeed!

    Any input from those who're glad he's 'in'?
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Don't recall many pro-Trumpettes, apart from the fox's pal who was more rabidly anti Clinton, for whatever reasons, than pro der Drumpf.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    orraloon wrote:
    Don't recall many pro-Trumpettes, apart from the fox's pal who was more rabidly anti Clinton, for whatever reasons, than pro der Drumpf.
    it seems to be this for a lot of people.
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  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,930
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    orraloon wrote:
    Don't recall many pro-Trumpettes, apart from the fox's pal who was more rabidly anti Clinton, for whatever reasons, than pro der Drumpf.
    it seems to be this for a lot of people.

    No not pro Trump.
    I did say that HC's only quality was that she wasn't Trump.

    All the Democrats had to do was to pick a candidate who wasn't Clinton.
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    The Trump/Gove interview is just breathtaking.
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  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    bendertherobot wrote:
    The Trump/Gove interview is just breathtaking.
    aye, bet the brexiteers are wetting themselves with excitement, the Drumph talks and the alt right believe. Still, he never goes back on his word does he
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    You've gotta wonder why he's so keen to break up the EU and NATO, can only make the 'big' players even more powerful
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Seems Berlin is a bit shocked by Trump's charge that the EU is a German racket and the NATO is obsolete.
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  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    rightly so, if post war ever there was a time for unity in europe..... :(
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    That pic of Trump and Gove together (with thumbs up and with Gove grinning like the chinless tw@t he is) is possibly the worst picture on the internet at the moment.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    It's curious he hasn't made time yet to meet May, but will take an interview from Gove.

    Would suggest a US/UK deal isn't that high on his agenda, despite what he says.
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  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    It's curious he hasn't made time yet to meet May, but will take an interview from Gove.

    Would suggest a US/UK deal isn't that high on his agenda, despite what he says.
    Why would it be? he has consistently talked bo****x, he aint going to change. The only thing drumph wants from the UK is to stop the building of wind turbines off the coast of his aberdeen gold course, there will be leverage applied. Any deal the US makes from now on, they will have to be seen to be the winner.
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    https://twitter.com/rabbitandcoffee/sta ... 4917446656
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    Imposter wrote:
    That pic of Trump and Gove together (with thumbs up and with Gove grinning like the chinless tw@t he is) is possibly the worst picture on the internet at the moment.

    Great journalism.

    He doesn't call Trump out on any of his inconsistencies, even within the same interview.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    bianchimoon wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    It's curious he hasn't made time yet to meet May, but will take an interview from Gove.

    Would suggest a US/UK deal isn't that high on his agenda, despite what he says.
    Why would it be? he has consistently talked bo****x, he aint going to change. The only thing drumph wants from the UK is to stop the building of wind turbines off the coast of his aberdeen gold course, there will be leverage applied. Any deal the US makes from now on, they will have to be seen to be the winner.

    whilst he does talk b0ll0x his actions have been in favour of American jobs for American workers. By definition a trade deal with the UK will be bad for American jobs so I doubt he will do it in any way that is favouable to us.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    bianchimoon wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    It's curious he hasn't made time yet to meet May, but will take an interview from Gove.

    Would suggest a US/UK deal isn't that high on his agenda, despite what he says.
    Why would it be? he has consistently talked bo****x, he aint going to change. The only thing drumph wants from the UK is to stop the building of wind turbines off the coast of his aberdeen gold course, there will be leverage applied. Any deal the US makes from now on, they will have to be seen to be the winner.

    Correction - HE will have to be the winner. If we can get a ridiculously good deal, and the price is ditching a wind farm, should we do it?
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    bianchimoon wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    It's curious he hasn't made time yet to meet May, but will take an interview from Gove.

    Would suggest a US/UK deal isn't that high on his agenda, despite what he says.
    Why would it be? he has consistently talked bo****x, he aint going to change. The only thing drumph wants from the UK is to stop the building of wind turbines off the coast of his aberdeen gold course, there will be leverage applied. Any deal the US makes from now on, they will have to be seen to be the winner.

    Correction - HE will have to be the winner. If we can get a ridiculously good deal, and the price is ditching a wind farm, should we do it?
    No...blackmail has a pattern
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,816
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    That pic of Trump and Gove together (with thumbs up and with Gove grinning like the chinless tw@t he is) is possibly the worst picture on the internet at the moment.

    Great journalism.

    He doesn't call Trump out on any of his inconsistencies, even within the same interview.
    Because he is scared somebody will call him out on his inconsistencies.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    bianchimoon wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    bianchimoon wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    It's curious he hasn't made time yet to meet May, but will take an interview from Gove.

    Would suggest a US/UK deal isn't that high on his agenda, despite what he says.
    Why would it be? he has consistently talked bo****x, he aint going to change. The only thing drumph wants from the UK is to stop the building of wind turbines off the coast of his aberdeen gold course, there will be leverage applied. Any deal the US makes from now on, they will have to be seen to be the winner.

    Correction - HE will have to be the winner. If we can get a ridiculously good deal, and the price is ditching a wind farm, should we do it?
    No...blackmail has a pattern

    I'd call it corruption, not blackmail.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    bianchimoon wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    bianchimoon wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    It's curious he hasn't made time yet to meet May, but will take an interview from Gove.

    Would suggest a US/UK deal isn't that high on his agenda, despite what he says.
    Why would it be? he has consistently talked bo****x, he aint going to change. The only thing drumph wants from the UK is to stop the building of wind turbines off the coast of his aberdeen gold course, there will be leverage applied. Any deal the US makes from now on, they will have to be seen to be the winner.

    Correction - HE will have to be the winner. If we can get a ridiculously good deal, and the price is ditching a wind farm, should we do it?
    No...blackmail has a pattern

    I'd call it corruption, not blackmail.

    if that is all he asks then we should bite his hand off. It is much cheaper than invading somebody and will keep out lapdog relationship special.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    That pic of Trump and Gove together (with thumbs up and with Gove grinning like the chinless tw@t he is) is possibly the worst picture on the internet at the moment.

    Great journalism.

    He doesn't call Trump out on any of his inconsistencies, even within the same interview.

    Gove probably missed the inconsistencies, which is why he didn't call him out. These people only hear what they want to.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,352
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    That's a little bit of genius.
    https://www.facebook.com/unanglaisendiois
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Read elsewhere:

    Michael Gove interviewing Donald Trump.
    Piers Morgan interviewing Nigel Farage.
    It's like a semifinal in a world cup of complete C****
    (Simon Pegg on twitter)
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... -interview
    Cutting view of the orangeutan and toad meeting in the guardian, very humorous :D
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....

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