Donald Trump

verylonglegs

Just read the T&C's for that market, assassination is excluded.

imposter2.0

Frank the tank wrote:

I will take a bet now, D J Trump will not see out the next four years as president.
He will be assassinated, by whom I'm not sure, but it will happen.

A 'coup' is more likely. I refer you to the '25th amendment' post I made on a previous page.

The Twenty-fifth Amendment is essentially a housekeeping measure, passed to clean up some ambiguities in Article II's provisions for the presidential succession. If the president dies or resigns or is removed from office, the vice president takes over. If the vice president dies or resigns or is removed from office, the president can choose a new VP, subject to confirmation by Congress. If the president submits written notice that he is no longer able to carry out the duties of his office, for whatever reason, the VP takes over. And last but not least, if the VP and a majority of the cabinet all agree that the president is no longer capable of carrying out the duties of his office, the VP can temporarily take over as Acting President. If the president disputes his removal from office, the Congress must decide whether the president should regain the powers of his office or whether the VP should remain in charge. Needless to say, this last circumstance has never happened in American history, and it would be pretty crazy if it ever did.

pinno

He's pi$$ed off the intelligence services and there is little doubt there are files and files of dirt on him. Something could stick (Look at the way they went after Bill Clinton). In an attempt to protect themselves and get rid of him, could they 'collude' with senators, elements of the judicial services and whoever to impeach him?

cycleclinic

With trump anything could happen. Trying to predict what is impoosible. It is as likely he will be assinated as it is he serves two full terms and gets the constitution changed to remove term limits and do away with impeachment and 25th ammendment clause.

Neither of those is very likely but so was him winning the presidancy when he first announced his candisancy.

pblakeney

Pinno wrote:

He's pi$$ed off the intelligence services and there is little doubt there are files and files of dirt on him. Something could stick (Look at the way they went after Bill Clinton). In an attempt to protect themselves and get rid of him, could they 'collude' with senators, elements of the judicial services and whoever to impeach him?

A bullet would be quicker and cheaper.
Remember, JFK was only alive in power for 22 months. And he was perceived as popular.

pinno

PBlakeney wrote:

Pinno wrote:

He's pi$$ed off the intelligence services and there is little doubt there are files and files of dirt on him. Something could stick (Look at the way they went after Bill Clinton). In an attempt to protect themselves and get rid of him, could they 'collude' with senators, elements of the judicial services and whoever to impeach him?

A bullet would be quicker and cheaper.
Remember, JFK was only alive in power for 22 months. And he was perceived as popular.

He was shot by a random loon. Mind you, there seems to be no shortage of them so it shouldn't be a problem. Only, the loons like him.

bobmcstuff

Just read his speech.

We're all f*cked if he gets his way.

Hope he has a heart attack straight away. Sooner the better.

TheBigBean

Did he say anything about the rest of the world? I'm wondering if one positive outcome might be a reduction in Obama's bomb every 20 mins legacy.

pblakeney

Pinno wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

Pinno wrote:

He's pi$$ed off the intelligence services and there is little doubt there are files and files of dirt on him. Something could stick (Look at the way they went after Bill Clinton). In an attempt to protect themselves and get rid of him, could they 'collude' with senators, elements of the judicial services and whoever to impeach him?

A bullet would be quicker and cheaper.
Remember, JFK was only alive in power for 22 months. And he was perceived as popular.

He was shot by a random loon. Mind you, there seems to be no shortage of them so it shouldn't be a problem. Only, the loons like him.

That is one narrative.
Also, I thought he was unpopular with the boys in Aberdeen.

DeVlaeminck

Just heard he's issued a Presidential decree (have I got that right?) to dismantle Obamacare before he's presented an alternative and straight after it showed him and assorted rich and powerful people dancing - or at least shuffling - to My Way.

It really jarred with me - potentially removing health cover from millions of people when you yourself have known nothing but opulence and power.

orraloon

PBlakeney wrote:

Also, I thought he was unpopular with the boys in Aberdeen.

Fegs aye min, thon's a chiel that's nae affa weel liket roon by i' Nor'east.

capt_slog

DeVlaeminck wrote:

Just heard he's issued a Presidential decree (have I got that right?) to dismantle Obamacare before he's presented an alternative and straight after it showed him and assorted rich and powerful people dancing - or at least shuffling - to My Way.

It really jarred with me - potentially removing health cover from millions of people when you yourself have known nothing but opulence and power.

Yes, classy wasn't it? What a petty little man he is.

Garry H

Capt Slog wrote:

DeVlaeminck wrote:

Just heard he's issued a Presidential decree (have I got that right?) to dismantle Obamacare before he's presented an alternative and straight after it showed him and assorted rich and powerful people dancing - or at least shuffling - to My Way.

It really jarred with me - potentially removing health cover from millions of people when you yourself have known nothing but opulence and power.

Yes, classy wasn't it? What a petty little man he is.

He's just giving the people what they want, regardless or not of whether they fully understand the consequences.

Why does that sound so familiar...

pinno

200 arrested as protests turned violent at his inauguration.

It's started...

bendertherobot

I wonder how you bring back jobs. He's alluded, for example, to Apple. So you'd take the contract back from FoxConn. And your iPhone would then be about $1500. So you have to subsidise that.

Building jobs is one thing, bringing them back?? It's a tricky one. I'm sure he has a plan rather than rhetoric.

pinno

bendertherobot wrote:

I'm sure he has a plan rather than rhetoric.

You mean that he didn't just say the right things to get into the Whitehouse?

bompington

Frank the tank wrote:

I will take a bet now, D J Trump will not see out the next four years as president.
He will be assassinated, by whom I'm not sure, but it will happen.

Leaving aside the morality of how right it is to wish that on anyone, the problem, fundamentally, isn't Trump himself - it's the fact that enough people voted for him to become president. That problem wouldn't go away if he stopped being president, and would get worse if it happened in circumstances (like assassination) where they could blame someone for taking away their hero. Even if it was indisputably a solo loon, can you imagine the conspiracy theories?

bendertherobot

Pinno wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

I'm sure he has a plan rather than rhetoric.

You mean that he didn't just say the right things to get into the Whitehouse?

I missed a smiley out there.

bendertherobot

General Mattis appears to be a useful check/balance. He'll bomb Iran probably to get rid of IS but seems quite pro NATO and anti Putin

pinno

bompington wrote:

Frank the tank wrote:

I will take a bet now, D J Trump will not see out the next four years as president.
He will be assassinated, by whom I'm not sure, but it will happen.

Leaving aside the morality of how right it is to wish that on anyone, the problem, fundamentally, isn't Trump himself - it's the fact that enough people voted for him to become president. That problem wouldn't go away if he stopped being president, and would get worse if it happened in circumstances (like assassination) where they could blame someone for taking away their hero. Even if it was indisputably a solo loon, can you imagine the conspiracy theories?

If he fails to deliver his promises to that electorate, which is highly likely, he won't be the hero that has been removed but there will be an increased body politic that is totally disenfranchised. That opens the door to fragmented politics and single state issues and who knows what else.

Garry H

bendertherobot wrote:

General Mattis appears to be a useful check/balance. He'll bomb Iran probably to get rid of IS but seems quite pro NATO and anti Putin

The ex Exxon guy seems to have his head screwed on and his feet firmly on the ground as well.

I suspect that the party may pander to Donald on matters relating to domestic politics, but he may find himself being reigned in when it comes to the more international issues.

pblakeney

bendertherobot wrote:

I wonder how you bring back jobs. He's alluded, for example, to Apple. So you'd take the contract back from FoxConn. And your iPhone would then be about $1500. So you have to subsidise that.

Building jobs is one thing, bringing them back?? It's a tricky one. I'm sure he has a plan rather than rhetoric.

And they've added 25% to UK prices due to currency fluctuations so sales will drop....

rick_chasey

US employment hasn't been so good in decades.

What Trump means is getting unemployed middle aged men who are ill educated back into jobs.

They'll need them because all that protectionism will make everything bloody expensive.

mr_goo

Capt Slog wrote:

DeVlaeminck wrote:

Just heard he's issued a Presidential decree (have I got that right?) to dismantle Obamacare before he's presented an alternative and straight after it showed him and assorted rich and powerful people dancing - or at least shuffling - to My Way.

It really jarred with me - potentially removing health cover from millions of people when you yourself have known nothing but opulence and power.

Yes, classy wasn't it? What a petty little man he is.

From what I understand the Obamacare doesn't work for the 'middle classes', it makes medical care more expensive.
So it was another democratic system that was ok for the poor and wealthy, but left those in the middle struggling to meet the costs. ... Sounds familiar.

pinno

Rick Chasey wrote:

US employment hasn't been so good in decades.

What Trump means is getting unemployed middle aged men who are ill educated back into jobs.

They'll need them because all that protectionism will make everything bloody expensive.

Pay them all $1 an hour. That'll get people back into work and reduce overheads. Simples.

rick_chasey

Mr Goo wrote:

Capt Slog wrote:

DeVlaeminck wrote:

Just heard he's issued a Presidential decree (have I got that right?) to dismantle Obamacare before he's presented an alternative and straight after it showed him and assorted rich and powerful people dancing - or at least shuffling - to My Way.

It really jarred with me - potentially removing health cover from millions of people when you yourself have known nothing but opulence and power.

Yes, classy wasn't it? What a petty little man he is.

From what I understand the Obamacare doesn't work for the 'middle classes', it makes medical care more expensive.
So it was another democratic system that was ok for the poor and wealthy, but left those in the middle struggling to meet the costs. ... Sounds familiar.

You know when they refer to middle class in the US they mean the poor, right?

surrey_commuter

In polling amongst Trump supporters Affordable Care has a high poll rating but Obamacare is hated

bendertherobot

Surrey Commuter wrote:

In polling amongst Trump supporters Affordable Care has a high poll rating but Obamacare is hated

As a concept? Or the ACA?

Frank the tank

bompington wrote:

Frank the tank wrote:

I will take a bet now, D J Trump will not see out the next four years as president.
He will be assassinated, by whom I'm not sure, but it will happen.

Leaving aside the morality of how right it is to wish that on anyone, the problem, fundamentally, isn't Trump himself - it's the fact that enough people voted for him to become president. That problem wouldn't go away if he stopped being president, and would get worse if it happened in circumstances (like assassination) where they could blame someone for taking away their hero. Even if it was indisputably a solo loon, can you imagine the conspiracy theories?

Where did I "wish it"?

I merely made a statement.

Garry H

Reckon he's more likely to be impeached, if anything. After all, most of the nutters voted him in.