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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,314
    bianchimoon wrote:
    “Nothing in that conversation suggests that he (Trump) had any knowledge of it in advance,” Mr. Giuliani said, adding that Mr. Trump had directed Mr. Cohen that if he were to make a payment related to the woman, write a check, rather than sending cash, so it could be properly documented.
    Knowledge of what? Knowledge he had an affair, he must have alzheimers if he can't remember sha99ing a playboy model :D
    He wants silence money to be documented?
    Not very bright is he?
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  • FishFish
    FishFish Posts: 2,152
    I think you are missing the point. Which is quite easy given the simian description of the circumstances that was presented to you. But your response would have had more impact if you had 'that' after knowledge and Alz... needs expressing correctly. Still you got your post count up by 1.
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  • veronese68
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    FishFish wrote:
    Quantity over quality prevails.
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  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    Circumstances that were presented to you.
    Not criticising you understand, your English is certainly better than my russian
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,537
    Bzzt. The quote was "the simian description of the circumstances that [the description not the circumstances] was presented to you"

    By the way, this is a pick elf. Or possibly an elf pick.

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  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    rjsterry wrote:
    Bzzt. The quote was "the simian description of the circumstances that [the description not the circumstances] was presented to you"

    By the way, this is a pick elf. Or possibly an elf pick.

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    Oh I’m all confused now, ignore me :D easier done than said :D:D
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Ignore the pick elf army at your peril.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,314
    orraloon wrote:
    Ignore the pick elf army at your peril.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,376
    What do people think of the offer made by Steve Mnuchin regarding a US-EU trade deal?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44914145

    Quote: "My message is pretty clear, it's the same message the president delivered at the G7 (last month in Canada): if Europe believes in free trade, we're ready to sign a free trade agreement with no tariffs, no non-tariff barriers and no subsidies. It has to be all three"
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  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    What do people think of the offer made by Steve Mnuchin regarding a US-EU trade deal?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44914145

    Quote: "My message is pretty clear, it's the same message the president delivered at the G7 (last month in Canada): if Europe believes in free trade, we're ready to sign a free trade agreement with no tariffs, no non-tariff barriers and no subsidies. It has to be all three"

    Sounds great, I mean, it's not as though trump would ever Welch on a deal.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,376
    darkhairedlord wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    What do people think of the offer made by Steve Mnuchin regarding a US-EU trade deal?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44914145

    Quote: "My message is pretty clear, it's the same message the president delivered at the G7 (last month in Canada): if Europe believes in free trade, we're ready to sign a free trade agreement with no tariffs, no non-tariff barriers and no subsidies. It has to be all three"

    Sounds great, I mean, it's not as though trump would ever Welch on a deal.
    Maybe the EU should try it, what's the worst that can happen? If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.

    They've just done a trade deal with the third largest economy on earth (Japan), so what better time to start on a deal with the largest? By time they've got half way down the process, Trump will be out of office (and given how long the Canada and Japan deals took overall, he would likely be out of office in any event before the deal is signed).
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  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,338
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Maybe the EU should try it, what's the worst that can happen? If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.

    They've just done a trade deal with the third largest economy on earth (Japan), so what better time to start on a deal with the largest? By time they've got half way down the process, Trump will be out of office (and given how long the Canada and Japan deals took overall, he would likely be out of office in any event before the deal is signed).
    the key here is
    no non-tariff barriers
    among other things, that means unrestricted gmo, meat from animals plumped up with hormones, and chicken so dodgy it needs bleaching, to say nothing of the sometimes appalling conditions animals are processed in

    uk farming is hardly squeaky clean, but dropping standards to the usa ones is not the answer

    trump likes to whine about eu tariffs on usa cars, but fails to mention the far higher usa tariffs on suvs/light trucks, but that's what one would expect from a lying, mean spirited, self-confessed serial sexual molester, and fraudster, who's so inept he failed to make money out of casinos

    we should kick trump hard, tell him to fu​ck off and die, then kick him again, it's the only thing cowardly bullies like him understand
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  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    sungod wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Maybe the EU should try it, what's the worst that can happen? If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.

    They've just done a trade deal with the third largest economy on earth (Japan), so what better time to start on a deal with the largest? By time they've got half way down the process, Trump will be out of office (and given how long the Canada and Japan deals took overall, he would likely be out of office in any event before the deal is signed).
    the key here is
    no non-tariff barriers
    among other things, that means unrestricted gmo, meat from animals plumped up with hormones, and chicken so dodgy it needs bleaching, to say nothing of the sometimes appalling conditions animals are processed in

    uk farming is hardly squeaky clean, but dropping standards to the usa ones is not the answer

    trump likes to whine about eu tariffs on usa cars, but fails to mention the far higher usa tariffs on suvs/light trucks, but that's what one would expect from a lying, mean spirited, self-confessed serial sexual molester, and fraudster, who's so inept he failed to make money out of casinos

    we should kick trump hard, tell him to fu​ck off and die, then kick him again, it's the only thing cowardly bullies like him understand
    it's a fair comment :D
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,376
    sungod wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Maybe the EU should try it, what's the worst that can happen? If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.

    They've just done a trade deal with the third largest economy on earth (Japan), so what better time to start on a deal with the largest? By time they've got half way down the process, Trump will be out of office (and given how long the Canada and Japan deals took overall, he would likely be out of office in any event before the deal is signed).
    the key here is
    no non-tariff barriers
    among other things, that means unrestricted gmo, meat from animals plumped up with hormones, and chicken so dodgy it needs bleaching, to say nothing of the sometimes appalling conditions animals are processed in

    uk farming is hardly squeaky clean, but dropping standards to the usa ones is not the answer

    trump likes to whine about eu tariffs on usa cars, but fails to mention the far higher usa tariffs on suvs/light trucks, but that's what one would expect from a lying, mean spirited, self-confessed serial sexual molester, and fraudster, who's so inept he failed to make money out of casinos

    we should kick trump hard, tell him to fu​ck off and die, then kick him again, it's the only thing cowardly bullies like him understand
    Somehow I sense that you're not overly keen on the idea :) . As mentioned above, Trump is temporary but the USA is here to stay for a fair while at least. I'm guessing you're not that allergic to the USA otherwise you wouldn't be working for a US MNC?
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  • ayjaycee
    ayjaycee Posts: 1,277
    sungod wrote:
    we should kick trump hard, tell him to fu​ck off and die, then kick him again, it's the only thing cowardly bullies like him understand

    There is really no need to go so soft on the orange khunt.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,376
    sungod wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Maybe the EU should try it, what's the worst that can happen? If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.

    They've just done a trade deal with the third largest economy on earth (Japan), so what better time to start on a deal with the largest? By time they've got half way down the process, Trump will be out of office (and given how long the Canada and Japan deals took overall, he would likely be out of office in any event before the deal is signed).
    the key here is
    no non-tariff barriers
    among other things, that means unrestricted gmo, meat from animals plumped up with hormones, and chicken so dodgy it needs bleaching, to say nothing of the sometimes appalling conditions animals are processed in

    uk farming is hardly squeaky clean, but dropping standards to the usa ones is not the answer

    trump likes to whine about eu tariffs on usa cars, but fails to mention the far higher usa tariffs on suvs/light trucks, but that's what one would expect from a lying, mean spirited, self-confessed serial sexual molester, and fraudster, who's so inept he failed to make money out of casinos

    we should kick trump hard, tell him to fu​ck off and die, then kick him again, it's the only thing cowardly bullies like him understand
    Trump aside, they could try talking to the US about their points of concern. They can always walk away if they can't agree.

    That said, we would soon run out of countries to trade with if we simply rejected trading partners on the basis of lower standards of (say) food production, or even whether we find them or their leaders at the time objectionable. I guess that's why Germany recently signed a large gas supply deal with Russia - a country that uses nerve agents on its own citizens. And maybe why the EU has signed a trade deal with Japan - a country that still harpoons whales.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    Does no non-tarrif barriers mean we get to buy guns?
    I'm in....
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,314
    As if we need more proof that guns are NOT the answer...
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  • robert88
    robert88 Posts: 2,696
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    I guess that's why Germany recently signed a large gas supply deal with Russia - a country that uses nerve agents on its own citizens. And maybe why the EU has signed a trade deal with Japan - a country that still harpoons whales.

    Straw men. And anyway our 'elite' still hunt foxes.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,314
    In other news, I see the Dumpster is threatening Iran again. In caps.
    Must be serious. Or deflection.
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  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965
    That said, we would soon run out of countries to trade with if we simply rejected trading partners on the basis of lower standards of (say) food production, or even whether we find them or their leaders at the time objectionable. I guess that's why Germany recently signed a large gas supply deal with Russia - a country that uses nerve agents on its own citizens. And maybe why the EU has signed a trade deal with Japan - a country that still harpoons whales.[/quote]

    I would struggle to avoid all mad US beef, pork and poultry from the food chain that the US would gladly sell us. By all means get as much meat as you can fill yourself with from the USA but I will gladly pass on this amazing trade opportunity. In the long term it might be worth your while in knowing where your meat is coming from.
  • verylonglegs
    verylonglegs Posts: 4,023
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    darkhairedlord wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    What do people think of the offer made by Steve Mnuchin regarding a US-EU trade deal?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44914145

    Quote: "My message is pretty clear, it's the same message the president delivered at the G7 (last month in Canada): if Europe believes in free trade, we're ready to sign a free trade agreement with no tariffs, no non-tariff barriers and no subsidies. It has to be all three"

    Sounds great, I mean, it's not as though trump would ever Welch on a deal.
    Maybe the EU should try it, what's the worst that can happen? If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.

    They've just done a trade deal with the third largest economy on earth (Japan), so what better time to start on a deal with the largest? By time they've got half way down the process, Trump will be out of office (and given how long the Canada and Japan deals took overall, he would likely be out of office in any event before the deal is signed).

    UK farmers would be out of business in the blink of an eye I would imagine with that sort of deal with the US.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,537
    Robert88 wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    I guess that's why Germany recently signed a large gas supply deal with Russia - a country that uses nerve agents on its own citizens. And maybe why the EU has signed a trade deal with Japan - a country that still harpoons whales.

    Straw men. And anyway our 'elite' still hunt foxes.
    Well they're not doing a very effective job.
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Yebbut, with dodgy USAnian beef, Brit athletes could have anti-doping escape routes, a la Clentador. Upside. Bright new future.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,131
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    sungod wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Maybe the EU should try it, what's the worst that can happen? If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.

    They've just done a trade deal with the third largest economy on earth (Japan), so what better time to start on a deal with the largest? By time they've got half way down the process, Trump will be out of office (and given how long the Canada and Japan deals took overall, he would likely be out of office in any event before the deal is signed).
    the key here is
    no non-tariff barriers
    among other things, that means unrestricted gmo, meat from animals plumped up with hormones, and chicken so dodgy it needs bleaching, to say nothing of the sometimes appalling conditions animals are processed in

    uk farming is hardly squeaky clean, but dropping standards to the usa ones is not the answer

    trump likes to whine about eu tariffs on usa cars, but fails to mention the far higher usa tariffs on suvs/light trucks, but that's what one would expect from a lying, mean spirited, self-confessed serial sexual molester, and fraudster, who's so inept he failed to make money out of casinos

    we should kick trump hard, tell him to fu​ck off and die, then kick him again, it's the only thing cowardly bullies like him understand
    Trump aside, they could try talking to the US about their points of concern. They can always walk away if they can't agree.

    That said, we would soon run out of countries to trade with if we simply rejected trading partners on the basis of lower standards of (say) food production, or even whether we find them or their leaders at the time objectionable. I guess that's why Germany recently signed a large gas supply deal with Russia - a country that uses nerve agents on its own citizens. And maybe why the EU has signed a trade deal with Japan - a country that still harpoons whales.

    It's easy to say that Trump is temporary, but the US is permanent. But when he has come in and torn up the free trade deal they had been working on for years - what's the chances of a new one getting going? Do you really think he would accept the removal of non-tariff barriers in the US? Or the farm insurance subsidy? He isn't someone that it is possible to negotiate a complex deal with, as he will take the bits he likes and stiff you on the rest. Be better to wait 3 years and see what happens.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,131
    PBlakeney wrote:
    In other news, I see the Dumpster is threatening Iran again. In caps.
    Must be serious. Or deflection.

    We live in a world where the leader of a nuclear superpower can do this and everyone just says "oh well, you know what he's like late at night."

    Weird, isn't it?
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,326
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    PBlakeney wrote:
    In other news, I see the Dumpster is threatening Iran again. In caps.
    Must be serious. Or deflection.

    We live in a world where the leader of a nuclear superpower can do this and everyone just says "oh well, you know what he's like late at night."

    Weird, isn't it?
    I'm finding it quite extraordinary that the President can (apparently) make up policies on the hoof, and that those who have to put the policies into concrete terms are supposed to take the ramblings of someone so unhinged at all seriously, without it going through Congress or Senate first.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,131
    briantrumpet wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    PBlakeney wrote:
    In other news, I see the Dumpster is threatening Iran again. In caps.
    Must be serious. Or deflection.

    We live in a world where the leader of a nuclear superpower can do this and everyone just says "oh well, you know what he's like late at night."

    Weird, isn't it?
    I'm finding it quite extraordinary that the President can (apparently) make up policies on the hoof, and that those who have to put the policies into concrete terms are supposed to take the ramblings of someone so unhinged at all seriously, without it going through Congress or Senate first.

    They aren't though. On Russia, everyone in the administration except Trump is saying completely the opposite. It's utterly dysfunctional.

    He has an 88% job approval rating among Republican voters.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,891
    Does anyone actually know why he is orange?
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,131
    He's back on the Carter Page FISA warrant.

    His position is that it was granted based on the Steele dossier, and shouldn't have been because that was paid for by the Dems, in order for Obama to spy on Trump, and stop his campaign, which they then didn't, and anything they have found out should not be used because it was obtained illegally, but they won't have found anything because there was nothing. And they should have told him about the risk that wasn't there because it was a hoax, even though they did tell him.

    Also, he accepts the intelligence services opinion that Russia interfered with the election, and also that the Russian interference story is a massive hoax.

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