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PBlakeney wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

Dinyull wrote:

Claiming credit for winning the World Cup 2026 bid in 3....2.....1.....

That's the NAFTA of world cups!! Canada US and Mexico... good job he won't be around by then

America. Not great enough to hold a World cup on it's own like Russia.

Of the 211 Fifa member nations, 200 cast a vote at the 68th Fifa Congress in Moscow on Wednesday, with the winning bid needing a majority of 104.

Canada, Mexico, Morocco and the US were exempt, while Ghana was absent after the country's government said it had disbanded its football association amid allegations of "widespread" corruption.

Three US territories - Guam, the US Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico - were among the other member nations to not vote.

LOL

darkhairedlord

mfin wrote:

FishFish wrote:

darkhairedlord wrote:

It let's trump "make them pay" for their defence. Expect a deal with Iran so he can bring troops back from Middle East and one with put in to bring them home from Europe. He needs them to enforce marshall law at home...

I think you mean 'martial law'.

General Marshall after WW2 ordered the construction of a road in the centre Tokyo which only just finished a couple of years ago. No idea what it is for.

I don't think he could impose martial law - I think he can call out the state national guard in an emergency but not substitute statute. As well as that he is popular - he would not need to.

It would be a good outcome for him to withdraw his troops from ME - the middle east is none of his business and as his immediate predecessor put it so wisely - it is Europe's back yard. Troops in Germany are there as part of post war conditions to prevent recurrence.

But then you see there is oil and then there is shia vs sunni which we don't really understand.

The martial law bit was a joke, but it sounds like it went completely over your head and into your spell check.

(oh, and the bit about withdrawing troops is so surface deep it's not worth commenting on )

Marital law would be more likely.

darkhairedlord

FishFish wrote:

darkhairedlord wrote:

It let's trump "make them pay" for their defence. Expect a deal with Iran so he can bring troops back from Middle East and one with put in to bring them home from Europe. He needs them to enforce marshall law at home...

I think you mean 'martial law'.

General Marshall after WW2 ordered the construction of a road in the centre Tokyo which only just finished a couple of years ago. No idea what it is for.

I don't think he could impose martial law - I think he can call out the state national guard in an emergency but not substitute statute. As well as that he is popular - he would not need to.

It would be a good outcome for him to withdraw his troops from ME - the middle east is none of his business and as his immediate predecessor put it so wisely - it is Europe's back yard. Troops in Germany are there as part of post war conditions to prevent recurrence.

But then you see there is oil and then there is shia vs sunni which we don't really understand.

When you say "we" who are you speaking for? Don't assume to know who we are!

robert88

FishFish wrote:

Robert88 wrote:

TheBigBean wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

TheBigBean wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

Name any country you consider to have a good human rights record. I can't think of one. The point is not that the US is good but that NK is far worse.

If Trump visited Iceland, would the main chat be about the US's abysmal human rights record?

If it's Trump then all bets are off. Probably not from the UK as our record isn't much better than theirs in some regards, but again the point isn't that the US is a paragon of virtue.

Yes, the UK's record is not great especially if you consider centuries. It is better than the US's though. The judiciary in the UK has proven itself to be better (far from perfect) at holding the UK government to account.

North Korea has a terrible reputation on human rights, but that isn't the point either on a thread about Trump. Trump meeting Kim Jong-un was a good thing to do if it can help improve the situation in Korea. That's surely the point.

Trump simply does not care about human rights. His admiration for Putin and other dictators shows that.

His objective is to get the North Korean elite on his side so that they can 'do business' together in a country where the majority of the population are kept in servitude. He would be very happy to be allowed to do the same in Russia.

His other objective is win enough votes in the USA to cement his position and enable him to continue to trash the constitution.

The bold part is absolutely true but the rest is BLX.
It is amazing that a sitting head of state would seek to be re-elected.

You claim to be intelligent and that is your response!

FishFish

Robert88 wrote:

FishFish wrote:

Robert88 wrote:

TheBigBean wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

TheBigBean wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

Name any country you consider to have a good human rights record. I can't think of one. The point is not that the US is good but that NK is far worse.

If Trump visited Iceland, would the main chat be about the US's abysmal human rights record?

If it's Trump then all bets are off. Probably not from the UK as our record isn't much better than theirs in some regards, but again the point isn't that the US is a paragon of virtue.

Yes, the UK's record is not great especially if you consider centuries. It is better than the US's though. The judiciary in the UK has proven itself to be better (far from perfect) at holding the UK government to account.

North Korea has a terrible reputation on human rights, but that isn't the point either on a thread about Trump. Trump meeting Kim Jong-un was a good thing to do if it can help improve the situation in Korea. That's surely the point.

Trump simply does not care about human rights. His admiration for Putin and other dictators shows that.

His objective is to get the North Korean elite on his side so that they can 'do business' together in a country where the majority of the population are kept in servitude. He would be very happy to be allowed to do the same in Russia.

His other objective is win enough votes in the USA to cement his position and enable him to continue to trash the constitution.

The bold part is absolutely true but the rest is BLX.
It is amazing that a sitting head of state would seek to be re-elected.

You claim to be intelligent and that is your response!

I thinks so and your response tends to suggest that you respect the fact.

Bedtime sonny.

Pross

Dinyull wrote:

Claiming credit for winning the World Cup 2026 bid in 3....2.....1.....

Did this little gem get posted on here at the time?

"It would be a shame if countries that we always support were to lobby against the U.S. bid. Why should we be supporting these countries when they don’t support us (including at the United Nations)?”

I'm surprised he's happy with the US federation partnering with the enemy in Mexico and Canada rather than his friends in North Korea and Russia.

bianchimoon

Pross wrote:

Dinyull wrote:

Claiming credit for winning the World Cup 2026 bid in 3....2.....1.....

Did this little gem get posted on here at the time?

"It would be a shame if countries that we always support were to lobby against the U.S. bid. Why should we be supporting these countries when they don’t support us (including at the United Nations)?”

I'm surprised he's happy with the US federation partnering with the enemy in Mexico and Canada rather than his friends in North Korea and Russia.

Nail head hit

FishFish

darkhairedlord wrote:

Don't assume to know who we are!

Are you Ronnie Pickering?

rick_chasey

Mate can you brag a bit more about yourself?

It was much funnier seeing someone make up their own qualies to impress and persuade people on the off topic part of a bike forum.

robert88

FishFish wrote:

You claim to be intelligent and that is your response! [/quote]
I thinks so and your response tends to suggest that you respect the fact.
Bedtime sonny.[/quote]
Wrong, I have no respect for you. You are pathetic.

Back on topic,

It is reported that

North Korea is sitting on $6 trillion in mineral resources.

This would be an excellent reason for Trump to want to get his hooks into the country and never mind human rights. his views on Kim:

[He's a]tough guy. Hey, when you take over a country, tough country, with tough people, and you take it over from your father, I don’t care who you are, what you are, how much of an advantage you have – if you can do that at 27 years old, that’s one in 10,000 could do that.

Concerning his murder of an uncle and many of his opponents, together with over 100,000 political prisoners held in 're-education' camps and forced-labour centres and murdered through torture or starvation:

Yeah, but so have a lot of other people done some really bad things. I could go through a lot of nations where a lot of bad things were done.

Normalising such abuses is Trump's style. He gets away with it.

He will now use the G7 fiasco and fake triumph of the North Korean charade as leverage over the RUssia investigation. Russia is another dictatorship with whom Trump would like to do business regardless of human rights.

kingstongraham

Last 24 hours:

Trump praises "tough guy" Kim
Trump attacks "Punch drunk" DeNiro
Trump endorses neo-confederate
Trump says CNN and NBC are the country's biggest enemy
Sanders might be leaving
Cohen is changing his lawyers
(and of course the US is setting up increased detention centres for kids taken from their parents at the border)

Marco Rubio sent a tweet saying Kim isn't talented because "He inherited the family business from his dad and grandfather. He is a total weirdo who would not be elected assistant dog catcher in any democracy". It is unclear whether he realises what he said.

bianchimoon

The fake president has just said parents of the Korean vets asked him to bring home their children's remains!!!
the average age of a Korean war vet is 87... mentally ill/lying/deluded etc

pblakeney

bianchimoon wrote:

The fake president has just said parents of the Korean vets asked him to bring home the children remains!!!
the average age of a Korean war vet is 87... mentally ill/lying/deluded etc

That's Louisiana for you. The parents will have just turned 100.

mfin

bianchimoon wrote:

The fake president has just said parents of the Korean vets asked him to bring home their children's remains!!!
the average age of a Korean war vet is 87... mentally ill/lying/deluded etc

That is comedy gold. Thousands he spoke to

I think the maths was if these parents he had spoken to had had a child at 18 and that child then enlisted at 18 and was killed it makes the parent now 101. The majority will be older of course (cos killed before the end of the war, plus enlisted later and/or had them when older), 101 is just the minimum possible age of these parents. One real example was someone saying the parents would be 105 and 117.

It shouldn't be comedy gold though, as it is just nothing but barefaced lying by Trump, he's effectively said that "thousands of parents who were 101 years old or more came up to him on the campaign trail and asked him XYZ".

kingstongraham

He saluted a North Korean general during the summit, being shown on NK TV.

bianchimoon

He's just been sued by the New York attorney General i think for misappropriation of funds from the Trump Foundation

Matthewfalle

bianchimoon wrote:

He's just been sued by the New York attorney General i think for misappropriation of funds from the Trump Foundation

sorry - the nyag has just started suing him?
how? this is madness!!!!

my head is starting to hurt everytime i read this thread now.

Matthewfalle

KingstonGraham wrote:

He saluted a North Korean general during the summit, being shown on NK TV.

who saluted who first?

as an aside, dotard does have a rubbish salute. if the north korean salute to hat size ratio is anything to go by, i bet theirs is a humdinger. loafs of hand waving and stuff.

mfin

Matthewfalle wrote:

KingstonGraham wrote:

He saluted a North Korean general during the summit, being shown on NK TV.

who saluted who first?

as an aside, dotard does have a rubbish salute. if the north korean salute to hat size ratio is anything to go by, i bet theirs is a humdinger. loafs of hand waving and stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS6qH9cnOzM

Matthewfalle

mfin wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

KingstonGraham wrote:

He saluted a North Korean general during the summit, being shown on NK TV.

who saluted who first?

as an aside, dotard does have a rubbish salute. if the north korean salute to hat size ratio is anything to go by, i bet theirs is a humdinger. loafs of hand waving and stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS6qH9cnOzM

dotard. utter dotard.

it makes me sad.

Matthewfalle

drain the swamp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... hite-house

Matthewfalle

Matthewfalle wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

He's just been sued by the New York attorney General i think for misappropriation of funds from the Trump Foundation

sorry - the nyag has just started suing him?
how? this is madness!!!!

my head is starting to hurt everytime i read this thread now.

just seen report.

he really is a dotard.

kingstongraham

Matthewfalle wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

He's just been sued by the New York attorney General i think for misappropriation of funds from the Trump Foundation

sorry - the nyag has just started suing him?
how? this is madness!!!!

my head is starting to hurt everytime i read this thread now.

As part of it, the AG asks that Trump be banned from leading any other New York non-profit for 10 years haha.

bianchimoon

Matthewfalle wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

He's just been sued by the New York attorney General i think for misappropriation of funds from the Trump Foundation

sorry - the nyag has just started suing him?
how? this is madness!!!!

my head is starting to hurt everytime i read this thread now.

just seen report.

he really is a dotard.

Used the charity money to pay debts, settlements of private law suits and for political donations among others

Matthewfalle

and, most probably, the odd porn star pay off no doubt ........

mfin

KingstonGraham wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

He's just been sued by the New York attorney General i think for misappropriation of funds from the Trump Foundation

sorry - the nyag has just started suing him?
how? this is madness!!!!

my head is starting to hurt everytime i read this thread now.

As part of it, the AG asks that Trump be banned from leading any other New York non-profit for 10 years haha.

It will be funny if he is proved unfit to run a charitable organisation because of illegal financial activity but can continue to be president of the country.

A 2 year investigation apparently, so there probably is a lot of weight behind this, and the directors themselves being individually sued, him, Ivanka, mini-Donald and Kevin or whatever the other's name is.

robert88

KingstonGraham wrote:

He saluted a North Korean general during the summit, being shown on NK TV.

It's said the B-list movie actor, Ronald Reagan started saluting US generals and they all copied him afterwards. Wannabe W**kers.

Made Chairman Kim crack his face.

FishFish

Robert88 wrote:

KingstonGraham wrote:

He saluted a North Korean general during the summit, being shown on NK TV.

It's said the B-list movie actor, Ronald Reagan started saluting US generals and they all copied him afterwards. Wannabe W**kers.

Made Chairman Kim crack his face.

I think Reagan was the elected President of the USA and the salute would be be the CinC (look it up) returning a salute from a member of the Armed Forces. When you say 'they all copied...' do you mean successive Presidents or all generals.

Actually this trend that you claim was started by President Reagan could have been started by Dwight Eisenhower who at one point was a serving General.

And what is the 'Wannabe' issue - are you saying, and I'm using an example here, that Obama wanted to copy Reagan to be a B list actor?

Pensioners should not start drinking so early. It shows!

robert88

Apropos of fake news, a report says we are being bamboozled(!) by Trump's deliberate use of language to mask ignorance and incompetence. Favourites are 'tough', 'hard', 'cracking down', 'battle', take aim against' and so on.

The intent, to pose as a strong man, only works because the underlying reality is overlooked. The idea that he is a good (tough) negotiator is false as evidenced by the Singapore summit where NK were the real winners and Trump looked the confused and feeble president that he is.

His rhetoric over immigration is tub-thumping, concealing his ignorance and carelessness about the facts. The truth is what he wants it to be and what his redneck supporters want to hear.

FishFish

FishFish wrote:

Robert88 wrote:

KingstonGraham wrote:

He saluted a North Korean general during the summit, being shown on NK TV.

It's said the B-list movie actor, Ronald Reagan started saluting US generals and they all copied him afterwards. Wannabe W**kers.

Made Chairman Kim crack his face.

I think Reagan was the elected President of the USA and the salute would be be the CinC (look it up) returning a salute from a member of the Armed Forces. When you say 'they all copied...' do you mean successive Presidents or all generals.

Actually this trend that you claim was started by President Reagan could have been started by Dwight Eisenhower who at one point was a serving General.

And what is the 'Wannabe' issue - are you saying, and I'm using an example here, that Obama wanted to copy Reagan to be a B list actor?

Pensioners should not start drinking so early. It shows!

Just answer the points or get off the forum.