Donald Trump

pblakeney

Pinno wrote:

team47b wrote:

History in the making, as Rich Hall said we are about to elect the First Lady president or the first last president

With so many shootings by police in the US recently and the following unrest, it's not far off civil war.

A friend of mine over there has said as much this week.
He is concerned, very concerned.

father_jack

mfin wrote:

The lack of political policy coming out of Trump's funny shaped mouth is quite amazing, all that is left is the media circus. Of course, this is all Trump ever wanted this to be. He thought his personality would see him through, what he forgot to take into account is that he doesn't have a good one. Plus, all in all, he is a bit dim.

Breaking on the news (right this second), aaaaanother allegation from a woman against Trump.

Anyone doubting these allegations? Of course there will be or could be some people who'd falsely come forward, but I think it is very likely there will be more and more.

Funny how they haven't come out before though...

sungod

Father Jack wrote:

mfin wrote:

The lack of political policy coming out of Trump's funny shaped mouth is quite amazing, all that is left is the media circus. Of course, this is all Trump ever wanted this to be. He thought his personality would see him through, what he forgot to take into account is that he doesn't have a good one. Plus, all in all, he is a bit dim.

Breaking on the news (right this second), aaaaanother allegation from a woman against Trump.

Anyone doubting these allegations? Of course there will be or could be some people who'd falsely come forward, but I think it is very likely there will be more and more.

Funny how they haven't come out before though...

they have come out before, often

but he's got a lot of money, influence and leverage, for instance the contract dispute where dropping sexual harassment charges was a condition for settlement, the people on the other end couldn't afford to fight it, he bought them off for peanuts in his terms

one of his ex-wives even accused him of rape years ago

the guy is a bully who uses his power to get what he wants

ultimately he'll lose the election, it's fun seeing him whine about how everything is against him, but sadly it's unlikely he'll ever suffer even a fraction as much as the people he has ruined, abused and exploited

Stevo_666

orraloon wrote:

Leavebollix (to paraphrase our resident tax dodger)

Never heard you refer to Sturgeons campaign like that. Lets hope she gets her way eh

slowmart

He's categorically stated that he's sexually assaulted women and numerous alledged victims have come forward making claims of being sexually assaulted.

Can anyone tell me why he's not been questioned by police?

ballysmate

Slowmart wrote:

He's categorically stated that he's sexually assaulted women and numerous alledged victims have come forward making claims of being sexually assaulted.

Can anyone tell me why he's not been questioned by police?

Have any of the 'victims' made a complaint to any police department?
That's probably your 'Why?'

slowmart

Ballysmate wrote:

Slowmart wrote:

He's categorically stated that he's sexually assaulted women and numerous alledged victims have come forward making claims of being sexually assaulted.

Can anyone tell me why he's not been questioned by police?

Have any of the 'victims' made a complaint to any police department?
That's probably your 'Why?'

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/could-t ... e-forward/

Looks like Trump is going to have his hands full after the election. Pity Hilary couldn't open the door on the rape allegation but when your own husband has rape allegations against him and having found to have perjured himself doesn't leave a sound platform.

Such a pity we didn't see Bernie against Condalissa Rice as a Presidential race. The only aspect more damaged than the nominees is the electoral process and democracy.

ballysmate

Slowmart wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

Slowmart wrote:

He's categorically stated that he's sexually assaulted women and numerous alledged victims have come forward making claims of being sexually assaulted.

Can anyone tell me why he's not been questioned by police?

Have any of the 'victims' made a complaint to any police department?
That's probably your 'Why?'

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/could-t ... e-forward/

Looks like Trump is going to have his hands full after the election. Pity Hilary couldn't open the door on the rape allegation but when your own husband has rape allegations against him and having found to have perjured himself doesn't leave a sound platform.

Such a pity we didn't see Bernie against Condalissa Rice as a Presidential race. The only aspect more damaged than the nominees is the electoral process and democracy.

New York Times?

slowmart

Ballysmate wrote:

Slowmart wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

Slowmart wrote:

He's categorically stated that he's sexually assaulted women and numerous alledged victims have come forward making claims of being sexually assaulted.

Can anyone tell me why he's not been questioned by police?

Have any of the 'victims' made a complaint to any police department?
That's probably your 'Why?'

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/could-t ... e-forward/

Looks like Trump is going to have his hands full after the election. Pity Hilary couldn't open the door on the rape allegation but when your own husband has rape allegations against him and having found to have perjured himself doesn't leave a sound platform.

Such a pity we didn't see Bernie against Condalissa Rice as a Presidential race. The only aspect more damaged than the nominees is the electoral process and democracy.

New York Times?

I'd say the legal viewpoint is valid.

No matter the story, Dan Abrams says there is "always a legal angle." That's why Abrams, the chief legal analyst for ABC News and founder of Mediaite, is launching a new site: LawNewz.com.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/19/media/d ... s-lawnewz/

ballysmate

For the police to question anyone, they will want a complaint.

pinno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfuF3uJ ... 1g&index=3

ballysmate

As I have said before, at least HC isn't Trump.

ballysmate

Trump is on 40% Clinton 46% and Trump has always been at least 2 points behind.
I think we all agree that Trump is unfit for any public office, never mind POTUS.
But Clinton is deeply unpopular with millions of Americans who simply don't trust her. Only 6 points ahead of someone like DT 2 weeks before the election.
I don't expect her popularity to grow post election either.

slowmart

It looks like Trmp is getting more bang for his buck

Hillary Clinton
TOTAL CASH ON HAND
$177.7M
Candidate Raised to Date* . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $766.6M
Spent . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $614.0M
Cash on Hand . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $152.6M

Super-PACs Raised to Date . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $183.0M
Spent . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $159.1M
Cash on Hand . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $25.1M

Total Raised to Date . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $949.6M
Total Spent . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $773.2M
Total Cash on Hand . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $177.7M
Donald Trump
TOTAL CASH ON HAND
$97.3M
Candidate Raised to Date* . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $392.1M
Spent . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $315.0M
Cash on Hand . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $77.0M

Super-PACs Raised to Date . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $57.0M
Spent . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $37.9M
Cash on Hand . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $20.3M

Total Raised to Date . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $449.1M
Total Spent . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $352.9M
Total Cash on Hand . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $97.3M

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graph ... ndraising/


Or HC is even more poisonanous than we brits ever thought.

RideOnTime

pinno

Are you going mad RoT ? ^^

bianchimoon

Pinno wrote:

Are you going mad RoT ? ^^

What dye mean 'going, i thought RoT stood for Random Off Topic?
(only jokin RoT)

RideOnTime

yes,
I have lost it with this presidential election run up,
it's insane

pinno

If the FBI is part of the US 'establishment', why the timing of this recent probe?

mamba80

Pinno wrote:

If the FBI is part of the US 'establishment', why the timing of this recent probe?

Get ready for President Trump.

slowmart

mamba80 wrote:

Pinno wrote:

If the FBI is part of the US 'establishment', why the timing of this recent probe?

Get ready for President Trump.

Given that the behaviour of the candidates and the expectations of the electorate which are already shaped in disappointment in the choice on nominees I doubt any material change in the end result.

It reduces down to the best choice between two people who are both lucky enough to be walking around as free citizens.

pblakeney

Slowmart wrote:

It reduces down to the best choice between two people who are both lucky enough to be walking around as free citizens.

Luck has nothing to do with it.
Power and contacts eliminate a lot of problems.

cycleclinic

The thing is the fbi are just looking for the power to start reading the e mials. They have not found anythong yet. THey did not find anything before. there are actual claims of sexual harrasment against trump.

If trump gets elected the only safe place is mars. He is the cnc and there is no check or balance if wants to go to war or even use nukes. He is thin skinned and vain. It will either be a disater if he is elected or worse than that. The dollar might fall though if he is elected which will help imports.

bondurant

That's not quite true. It's not a dictatorship. The President cannot do precisely what he or she pleases.

ballysmate

Pinno wrote:

If the FBI is part of the US 'establishment', why the timing of this recent probe?

But the FBI can't possibly have found anything new can they? Because Hillary handed over all of her emails, electronic devices and phones, co-operating fully to ascertain if national security had been compromised didn't she? :roll:

pinno

Ballysmate wrote:

Pinno wrote:

If the FBI is part of the US 'establishment', why the timing of this recent probe?

But the FBI can't possibly have found anything new can they? Because Hillary handed over all of her emails, electronic devices and phones, co-operating fully to ascertain if national security had been compromised didn't she? :roll:

It doesn't implicate HC directly, it's her aide or at least ex husband of said aide. The only implications are if HC was complicit/involved/aware that there were these emails being sent.

I think she'll ride this bump.

bianchimoon

Pinno wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

Pinno wrote:

If the FBI is part of the US 'establishment', why the timing of this recent probe?

But the FBI can't possibly have found anything new can they? Because Hillary handed over all of her emails, electronic devices and phones, co-operating fully to ascertain if national security had been compromised didn't she? :roll:

It doesn't implicate HC directly, it's her aide or at least ex husband of said aide. The only implications are if HC was complicit/involved/aware that there were these emails being sent.

I think she'll ride this bump.

I agree, might even help her, could come across as a cumbersome attempt to discredit her by Comey, by releasing them against advice by his own department

pinno

bianchimoon wrote:

Pinno wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

Pinno wrote:

If...probe?

But...bump.

... attempt to discredit her by Comey, by releasing them against advice by his own department

Where did you pick up on that?

Wait a minute... quick Google:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/30/opini ... .html?_r=0

ballysmate

FBI letter to Congress, stating that the emails had not been assessed.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016 ... etter.html

Reasons for sending the letter.


In July, Mr. Comey told Congress that the Clinton investigation was complete but that if new information came to light, the bureau would examine it. Mr. Comey pledged to be as transparent as he could with Congress about the investigation, and has since made public hundreds of pages of documents related to the inquiry. According to senior F.B.I. officials, Mr. Comey felt that he would be breaking his pledge of transparency to Congress if he did not reveal the new information from the Weiner case. And he believed that the bureau would be accused of suppressing details to benefit Mrs. Clinton — an accusation that he believed could do lasting damage to the F.B.I.’s credibility.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/31/us/po ... mails.html

So he either inform Congress and risk being accused of interfering in the election or wait until afterwards and risk being accused of a cover up to facilitate the election of a candidate.

From the same article

In 2015, the bureau began investigating the personal email account that Mrs. Clinton had used exclusively as secretary of state. As part of that investigation, the bureau tried to find every electronic device — phones, tablets, computers — that Mrs. Clinton and her aides used.

Agents could not find many of them, including several of Mrs. Clinton’s cellphones and two iPads. The agents knew that those devices, and others they were not aware of, might someday surface.

So there was a ticking bomb under Clinton, which she could have defused by handing over all the devices under her control.

This issue could have been put to bed months ago.I still think she will be elected, but lying and evasion is her default position and has come back to bite her on the ar5e

ballysmate

Vice President Joe Biden on Clinton and her emails.

“I don't think she understood the gravity of setting it up. She thought it was, you know, ‘this is OK to do.’ And then when — this woman has been so battered over the last 30 years. I think then when faced with, ‘this is a problem,’ I think instead of just cutting it and dealing with it immediately, there's always an inclination to overthink it,” Biden said in an excerpt of the interview released Friday by CBS. “But I really do believe, and my grandfather said, I think people reward you being straightforward … I still think it's the best policy. But when you have been on the other end of a concerted effort, justified or not justified, to undermine your credibility, I think you probably are in a different place in terms of how your instinct, how does it respond.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/c ... den-230443

Not being straight forward and overthinking? Do you mean lying, Joe?