Donald Trump
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With the news tonight this thread will get busier.
What a disgusting individual he is.0 -
Just a bit of banter :roll:0
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Saw this on Twitter. Nail. Head.
If you weren't offended by Trump's comments on Mexicans, Muslims, etc, but this is what finally offends you? I am at a loss.0 -
Joelsim wrote:Saw this on Twitter. Nail. Head.
If you weren't offended by Trump's comments on Mexicans, Muslims, etc, but this is what finally offends you? I am at a loss.
Well, that's just a soundbite which means nothing, it only applies from the point of view of someone who is aware of the nature of so many of his comments being offensive.
The fact is, plenty of thick Americans actually agree with the Mexican wall and Muslim blocks comments as potential great ideas, ideas that by their nature are some form of political proposals, things they don't find offensive.
This kind of thing hitting the news again, as a recording is different, it is all to do with Trump himself, and regardless of political leaning most people will listen and judge him on what they hear.0 -
mfin wrote:With the news tonight this thread will get busier.
What a disgusting individual he is.
Don't see that it makes any difference.0 -
What was the tweet ? Haven't been out to get the papers 'cos i've been a lazy basket and not on Twitter.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
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Pinno wrote:What was the tweet ? Haven't been out to get the papers 'cos i've been a lazy basket and not on Twitter.
It's not a tweet. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37594918
Video from 10 years ago where he is recorded talking about women in exactly the way that you assume he talks about women.
But it sounds like the Republicans have decided this might be the point at which they can reasonably stop pretending to support him.0 -
KingstonGraham wrote:Pinno wrote:What...Twitter.
It's not a tweet. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37594918
But it sounds like the Republicans have decided this might be the point at which they can reasonably stop pretending to support him.
3 minutes of that was enough. I hope you are right ^. A new candidate will have no time to campaign properly and Hillary wins by default. The 2nd debate is tomorrow and HC has now got more ordinance.
On the back of a fail, I hope the campaign costs him so much money he ends up filing for bankruptcy (again).seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
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did anyone see the program on trumps america? scary, i think he has a good chance of getting in, disillusionment with Obamas reign, will see many Democrat voters stay at home and Trumps supporters dont see much wrong with his recent comments.
many people see nothing wrong with objectifying women, its not like Porn isnt popular is it?0 -
Its closer than it used to be but Clinton seems to be consistently ahead:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/us-election-2016-polls-and-odds-tracker-latest-forecast-in-race/"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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Lookyhere wrote:did anyone see the program on trumps america? scary, i think he has a good chance of getting in, disillusionment with Obamas reign, will see many Democrat voters stay at home and Trumps supporters dont see much wrong with his recent comments.
many people see nothing wrong with objectifying women, its not like Porn isnt popular is it?
That statement is true of course, but a lot of women won't fall into that category. The bible-belters won't like it in general and neither will the particularly old or more savvy young.
It depends how many of his supporters will be prepared to let it go to potentially have him win, it's clear this time that to a lot of people it's more about the man and his statements than the party.
The video certainly won't win him many new voters.
That programme and the previous ones have been interesting, the insight into the tiny minds of some of the supporters does provide moments of open mouthed disbelief.0 -
mfin wrote:Lookyhere wrote:did anyone see the program on trumps america? scary, i think he has a good chance of getting in, disillusionment with Obamas reign, will see many Democrat voters stay at home and Trumps supporters dont see much wrong with his recent comments.
many people see nothing wrong with objectifying women, its not like Porn isnt popular is it?
That statement is true of course, but a lot of women won't fall into that category. The bible-belters won't like it in general and neither will the particularly old or more savvy young.
It depends how many of his supporters will be prepared to let it go to potentially have him win, it's clear this time that to a lot of people it's more about the man and his statements than the party.
The video certainly won't win him many new voters.
That programme and the previous ones have been interesting, the insight into the tiny minds of some of the supporters does provide moments of open mouthed disbelief.
He only has about 20% of the under 34s anyway, and by all accounts about 10% of the under 25s.0 -
Stevo 666 wrote:Its closer than it used to be but Clinton seems to be consistently ahead:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/us-election-2016-polls-and-odds-tracker-latest-forecast-in-race/
You mean like the polls that consistently said U.K would vote remain
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Yep.mamba80 wrote:Stevo 666 wrote:Its closer than it used to be but Clinton seems to be consistently ahead:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/us-election-2016-polls-and-odds-tracker-latest-forecast-in-race/
You mean like the polls that consistently said U.K would vote remain"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Speaking of polling, fivethirtyeight is pretty on point: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the ... for-trump/My view of this general election — both how the FiveThirtyEight forecast models see the race and how I see it personally — is that it’s characterized by high volatility and high uncertainty. Those two things go together, although they’re not quite the same.0
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It shows just how unpopular Clinton is that she's not wiping the floor with him.
Or it shows just how dumb some people are.
Or both.0 -
2 debates to go. Could be in HC's favour - she's a tad more eloquent than DT. It always seems to me that DT is an inch away from really putting his foot in it and contradicting himself. I thought George dublya was a plonker but DT is potentially a f*ck up in waiting.
But, given the sentiments previously stated about the senate, he may me more impotent than Obama: for all his wonderful rhetoric, he's failed to get a lot of things through the senate.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
All these republicans who have said they won't vote for trump nor for Hilary but will write in a name of another republican - what happens to that vote?
In the UK it'd be spoilt, but is that the same in the US??“Cindy and I will not vote for Donald Trump,” McCain said in a statement that included his wife. “I have never voted for a Democratic presidential candidate and we will not vote for Hillary Clinton. We will write in the name of some good conservative Republican who is qualified to be president.”0 -
It's different in different states. Some it would get counted as a vote for the written in name, some you can't do that.Rick Chasey wrote:All these republicans who have said they won't vote for trump nor for Hilary but will write in a name of another republican - what happens to that vote?
In the UK it'd be spoilt, but is that the same in the US??“Cindy and I will not vote for Donald Trump,” McCain said in a statement that included his wife. “I have never voted for a Democratic presidential candidate and we will not vote for Hillary Clinton. We will write in the name of some good conservative Republican who is qualified to be president.”0 -
So if the Republican vote is split... Is that what you're saying? Then that diminishes the Trump vote.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
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Joelsim wrote:It shows just how unpopular Clinton is that she's not wiping the floor with him.
Or it shows just how dumb some people are.
Or both.
It shows the calibre of Clinton that she's not wiping the floor with him.0 -
Pinno wrote:2 debates to go. Could be in HC's favour - she's a tad more eloquent than DT. It always seems to me that DT is an inch away from really putting his foot in it and contradicting himself. I thought George dublya was a plonker but DT is potentially a f*ck up in waiting.
But, given the sentiments previously stated about the senate, he may me more impotent than Obama: for all his wonderful rhetoric, he's failed to get a lot of things through the senate.
Yep. The more any politician over-promises the less they will be seen to deliver. If Trump got in, every follower of his is going to be completely disappointed and going to know very quickly all the promises were undeliverable and empty.
For Trump to be this popular is pretty frightening to absolutely anyone with any brain at all. It's not even entertaining, it's just unbelievable. Sadly, the fact is that huge amounts of Americans are way way more thick than they are desperate, but of course a lot of them are desperate.
The documentary mentioned above had a black guy saying basically that he voted for Obama because he was black and he would do stuff for black people, then felt let down that nothing much had changed. Lots of Americans really buy into not just what they are told, but things they have invented themselves out of the thin air in their own heads.0 -
Ballysmate wrote:Joelsim wrote:It shows just how unpopular Clinton is that she's not wiping the floor with him.
Or it shows just how dumb some people are.
Or both.
It shows the calibre of Clinton that she's not wiping the floor with him.
I think you're a bit too negative on Clinton I really do. Her track record is impressive. You just don't like her.
I think it's more representative of the polarising effect of too much information - either through 24hr news and/or the internet. Combined that with a FPTP system and it goes a bit mental.
No longer does the vast majority of people get their news from the same narrow, edited, fact checked journalism, whether that's the handful of papers everyone reads or the 6 o'clock news.
Instead people go to the news that reflects their own views (we all do), and nowadays with social media all that news and reaction to it gets reinforced. My Facebook was literally 100% remain during the referendum.
Combine that with the trend that geographically the US is getting more politically polarised too; people are much more likely to live next door to someone with the same politics as them as they were 40 years ago.
As a result people are just not remotely balanced.
Some weirdos end up therefore going on random bike sites to pick fights with people from the other side once in a while, because they can't find nay with people they know... :P0 -
Ah, that explains some of the stuff you post.
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Ballysmate wrote:Joelsim wrote:It shows just how unpopular Clinton is that she's not wiping the floor with him.
Or it shows just how dumb some people are.
Or both.
It shows the calibre of Clinton that she's not wiping the floor with him.
might it not be that America is nt ready for a female President and she is not wiping the floor with Trump BECAUSE she is a woman?0 -
It is odd that Hilary gets her husband's infidelity held against her but when Trump says "grab 'em by the *****' it's just "boys will be boys".0
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The woman and her husband are from the same stamp.
There is more than a whiff of corruption from the Clinton Foundation, it is almost a stench.
The email debacle would have been sufficient to see anyone else in court and probably jail. Using an unencrypted server, losing over a dozen electronic devices with classified information, not knowing who had access to her emails, not being able to remember any security briefings...
In fact when interviewed by the FBI, she couldn't remember anything.
People on here working at quite low levels in government departments will be well aware of security protocols when dealing with data, as will people working for any company or organisation who handle sensitive information. But not HC apparently.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... &tid=ss_tw
Ed Snowdon probably did less damage to the government than Clinton and he has to hide out in Russia while she gets to be POTUS :?
Going back further, Pardongate? Her bother is paid $250,000 to arrange for Bill to grant pardons to criminals. Her campaign treasurer when she ran for the SEnate arranged similar pardons and she professes to know nothing.
There is loads online about the Clintons, most of it probably foil hat stuff, but if HC and DT are the two best candidates from 300m people in the US, we are all fcuked.
The only plus for HC is she isn't DT.
Hardly a ringing endorsement is it?0
